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The party has lost confidence in her as a unifying leader and a party spokesperson. | AP Photo
By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE | 9/17/14 5:46 PM EDT Updated: 9/17/14 8:51 PM EDT
Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz is in a behind-the-scenes struggle with the White House, congressional Democrats and Washington insiders who have lost confidence in her as both a unifying leader and reliable party spokesperson at a time when they need her most. Long-simmering doubts about her have reached a peak after two recent public flubs: criticizing the White Houses handling of the border crisis and comparing the tea party to wife beaters.
The perception of critics is that Wasserman Schultz spends more energy tending to her own political ambitions than helping Democrats win. This includes using meetings with DNC donors to solicit contributions for her own PAC and campaign committee, traveling to uncompetitive districts to court House colleagues for her potential leadership bid and having DNC-paid staff focus on her personal political agenda.
Shes become a liability to the DNC, and even to her own prospects, critics say.
I guess the best way to describe it is, its not that shes losing a duel anywhere, its that she seems to keep shooting herself in the foot before she even gets the gun out of the holster, said John Morgan, a major donor in Wasserman Schultzs home state of Florida.
The stakes are high. Wasserman Schultz is a high-profile national figure who helped raise millions of dollars and served as a Democratic messenger to female voters during a presidential election in which Obama needed to exploit the gender gap to win, but Novembers already difficult midterms are looming.
One example that sources point to as particularly troubling: Wasserman Schultz repeatedly trying to get the DNC to cover the costs of her wardrobe. In 2012, Wasserman Schultz attempted to get the DNC to pay for her clothing at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, multiple sources say, but was blocked by staff in the committees Capitol Hill headquarters and at President Barack Obamas reelection campaign headquarters in Chicago.
She asked again around Obamas inauguration in 2013, pushing so hard that Obama senior adviser and one-time Wasserman Schultz booster Valerie Jarrett had to call her directly to get her to stop. (Jarrett said she does not recall that conversation.) One more time, according to independent sources with direct knowledge of the conversations, she tried again, asking for the DNC to buy clothing for the 2013 White House Correspondents Dinner.
Wasserman Schultz denies that she ever tried to get the DNC to pick up her clothing tab. I think that would be a totally inappropriate use of DNC funds, she said in a statement. I never asked someone to do that for me, I would hope that no one would seek that on my behalf, and Im not aware that anyone did.
Tracie Pough, Wasserman Schultzs chief of staff at the DNC and her congressional office, was also involved in making inquiries about buying the clothing, according to sources. Pough denies making, directing or being aware of any inquiries. But sources with knowledge of the discussions say Wasserman Schultzs efforts couldnt have been clearer. She felt firmly that it should happen, said a then-DNC staffer of the clothing request. Even after it was explained that it couldnt, she remained indignant.
This story is based on interviews with three dozen current and former DNC staffers, committee officers, elected officials, state party leaders and top Democratic operatives in Washington and across the country. Many expect a nascent Clinton campaign will engineer her ouster. Hurt feelings go back to spring 2008, when while serving as a co-chair of Hillary Clintons presidential campaign, Wasserman Schultz secretly reached out to the Obama campaign to pledge her support once the primary was over, sources say.
Meanwhile, the Obama team was so serious about replacing her after 2012 that they found a replacement candidate to back before deciding against it, according to people familiar with those discussions.
Obama and Wasserman Schultz have rarely even talked since 2011. They dont meet about strategy or messaging. They dont talk much on the phone. Instead, the DNC chairwoman stakes out the president of the United States at the end of photo lines at events and fundraisers. You need another picture, Debbie? Obama tends to say, according to people whove been there for the encounters.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/democrats-debbie-wasserman-schultz-111077_Page2.html#ixzz3DclmYe68
much more at link above...
This is on the heels of true shenanigans for years in Florida, by Shutlz
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Democrats were not heard.
But John Morgan is being heard......
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)not effective
tularetom
(23,664 posts)I occasionally heard her on some radio show and and I was stunned by how uninformed and shallow her responses were.
I was also troubled by her refusal to devote DNC resources to the campaigns of some promising progressive Democratic candidates.
It's amazing that so incompetent an individual has been able to hold onto a position like this for so long a time.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)She is not helping us one bit. Long winded answers, short on facts, usually dodges the tough questions. She needs to be gone and now.
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)I'm not sure I believe this part.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)She reached out to Obama in 2008 behind Hillary's back and before the end of Clinton's campaign. That is the the sort of thing that puts you permanently on a shit list.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)She has no business in the party leadership in any way
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Obama should have kicked her out right there.
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)LOL, just kidding - I mean, I'm sure she's a good person, but I would NOT call her a good Democrat. NEVER endorse your opposition. EVER EVER EVER.
But you know, I'm weird that way, I guess.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Ineffective, waffling, and more concerned shown for her own ambitions than what was good for the party.
Never liked her one bit.
QC
(26,371 posts)when she was appointed. The reaction was mostly disbelief and horror around here.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)for criticizing her when she endorsed Republicans a few years back.
QC
(26,371 posts)I remember that well. The White House chose her, and who were we to question that?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)She is clumsily anti-gun in a state that kicked off the modern movement for concealed-carry. Regardless of ones views on guns, that is leading with your chin. She became a bad fart in a good VW for stuff like that.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)a choice between them and a progressive Dem.
Removing her from that position would be a good start to reforming the Dem Party, so long as she is not replaced with another Third Way Dino.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Never found out what went on with them. They are or were Repukes at the time.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)her refusal to help Progressive Dems, even going so far as to support Republicans. She does NOT belong in that position and it's too bad it has taken so long to replace her. She has done a lot of harm to the chances of putting good Progressive Democrats in Congress.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)To mention it at all shows this.
But in the current atmosphere it's toxic. And it's a bit of a reoccurring method. What's so red herring about the issue itself it's a completely reasonable expense throughout business and politics, but it's turned into a class warfare weapon.
You're reasons are spot on but bloodless.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I might be the only one in this thread that will say I thought she could be doing a better job
but I sure as hell am not going to toss her under the bus from some shit ht piece from Politico.
This is a hit piece. It's red meat.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)oneshooter
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madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Wasserman Schultz insults FL Dem candidate...says "don't pull that populist stuff on me."
She undermined Annette Taddeo who is Crist's running mate now.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2647
She and Kendrick Meek supported FL Republican candidates against their own party guys.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2470
I have lots more.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The Chair of the Democratic National Committee is completely unaware of one of the biggest stories of the Obama years
Glenn Greenwald
theguardian.com, Friday 19 October 2012 20.38 ED
On 29 May 2012, the New York Times published a remarkable 6,000-word story on its front page about what it termed President Obama's "kill list". It detailed the president's personal role in deciding which individuals will end up being targeted for assassination by the CIA based on Obama's secret, unchecked decree that they are "terrorists" and deserve to die.
Based on interviews with "three dozen of his current and former advisers", the Times' Jo Becker and Scott Shane provided extraordinary detail about Obama's actions, including how he "por[es] over terrorist suspects' biographies on what one official calls the macabre 'baseball cards'" and how he "insist[s] on approving every new name on an expanding 'kill list'". At a weekly White House meeting dubbed "Terror Tuesdays", Obama then decides who will die without a whiff of due process, transparency or oversight. It was this process that resulted in the death of US citizen Anwar Awlaki in Yemen, and then two weeks later, the killing of his 16-year-old American son, Abdulrahman, by drone.
The Times "kill list" story made a huge impact and was widely discussed and condemned by media figures, politicians, analysts, and commentators. Among other outlets, the New York Times itself harshly editorialized against Obama's program in an editorial entitled "Too Much Power For a President", denouncing the revelations as "very troubling" and argued: "No one in that position should be able to unilaterally order the killing of American citizens or foreigners located far from a battlefield - depriving Americans of their due-process rights - without the consent of someone outside his political inner circle."
That Obama has a "kill list" has been known since January, 2010, and has been widely reported and discussed in every major American newspaper since April 2010. A major controversy over chronic White House leaks often featured complaints about this article (New York Times, 5 June 2012: "Senators to Open Inquiry Into 'Kill List' and Iran Security Leaks" . The Attorney General, Eric Holder, gave a major speech defending it.
But Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic Congresswoman from Florida and the Chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, does not know about any of this. She has never heard of any of it. She has managed to remain completely ignorant about the fact that President Obama has asserted and exercised the power to secretly place human beings, including US citizens, on his "kill list" and then order the CIA to extinguish their lives.
CONTINUED...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/20/wasserman-schultz-kill-list
Personally, I believe supporting the Bill of Rights is something ALL Democrats should do.
Psephos
(8,032 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,709 posts)John Morgan's bad side by not endorsing a marijuana bill he supported.
Though I agree that Schultz is the kind of Democrat that does nothing to excite the base. But few do in Florida.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)She's a real bummer for progressives and farming candidates in Florida.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Now, because of right wing ads...the numbers are coming down. But Little Debby did not help matters. Never did.
Marr
(20,317 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Even Obama gets it, asking at fundraisers while she waits for a pic last....
"Hi Debby, did you need another photo?"
Good for the president.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)I recall saying it when she became the head of the party! She's extremely DLC and here in FL many know she was never a fighter. I'm shocked to hear that the Clintons have a problem with her because she was cut from the same cloth IMO. And I've always heard stories about her and the Repuke Party down here. Never thought she would be the head so don't know real facts about the stories here in FL. Just knew many Dems didn't trust her.
I realize she's National, but here in FL the Democratic Party seems to be doing VERY LITTLE to help Charlie Crist. I haven't heard a peep from them regarding his run for Governor! And guess who's ahead in the polls even though his approval rating doesn't even top 30%, RICK SCOTT!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I'll take this story with a couple of truckloads of salt.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)No.
Her antics in Florida are beside the point of the article.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Political Experience
Representative, United States House of Representatives, 2005-present
Chief Deputy Whip, United States House of Representatives, 2006-2008
Senior Whip, United States House of Representatives, 2005-2006
Senator, Florida State Senate, 2001-2004
Democratic Leader Pro Tempore, Florida State House of Representatives, 2000
Representative, Florida State House of Representatives, 1992-2000
Democratic Floor Leader, Florida State House of Representatives, 1998-1999
Current Legislative Committees
Appropriations, Member
Subcommittee on Legislative Branch, Ranking Member
Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs, Member
Caucuses/Non-Legislative Committees
Vice Chair, Democratic Party, Congressional Caucus for Womens Issues
Member, Florida Supreme Court Gender Bias Study Implementation Commission
Member, Southern Regional Education Board Legislative Advisory Council
Chair, South Florida Democratic Caucus
Vice President, Women's Political Caucus, Gwen Cherry Chapter
Co-Chair, Policy Committee, Senate Democratic Caucus, 2002-2004
Member, Governor's Commission on Education, 1996-1998
Member, Florida Education Facilities Study Committee, 1994
Member, Classrooms First Task Force, 1993
Professional Experience
Adjunct Instructor, Political Science, Broward Community College
Specialist, Public Policy Curriculum, Nova Southeastern University
Legislative Aide, Peter Deutsch, Florida State House of Representatives, 1989-1992
Religious, Civic, and other Memberships
Chair, Democratic National Committee, United States House of Representatives, 2011-present
Member, American Jewish Committee
Board Member, American Jewish Congress Southeast Region
Member, Broward National Organization for Women, South Palm Beach County
Member, Hadassah
Secretary, Hawkes Bluff Panel and Homeowner's Association
Member, Miramar Chamber of Commerce
Member, National Council of Jewish Women
Board Member, National Jewish Democratic Council
Board Member, National Safety Council, South Florida Chapter
Member, Pembroke Pines Chamber of Congress
Former Board Member, Planned Parenthood, Broward County
Former Board Member, Planned Parenthood, South Palm Beach County
Member, Weston Chamber of Commerce
Board Member, Westside Regional Medical Center
Board Member, Florida Distance Learning Network, 1995-1997
Vice President, Broward County Young Democrats, 1990-1992
Secretary, Broward County Young Democrats, 1990-1992
Secretary, Young Leadership Council, Jewish Federation, Greater Fort Lauderdale, 1989-1990
http://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/24301/debbie-wasserman-schultz#.VBujW8Zf_8s
Here is her record at gov track: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/debbie_wasserman_schultz/400623a
But please let's slam her. Let's totally fall for a politico hit piece.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)all of the above only shows that she knows how to play the game.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)vi5
(13,305 posts)Is anyone naive enough to believe she's anyone but the exact type of lackluster, "centrist", Washington General type of Democrat that the White House and Congressional Dems and especially Dem "insiders" wanted to run the DNC? And now that it's quite obvious what a failure this approach is proving to be, under the bus she goes.
I despise her, but this notion that somehow the WH and all the other mealy mouthed "centrist" Dems who run the party now are pinning this on her is a joke.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)She turned her back on dems long before this. Just read all the comments!
vi5
(13,305 posts)My point is that now everyone in power within the party are playing the "OMG we're so shocked that she's doing such a shitty job!"
Bullshit. Like a lot of issues and policies, many of us knew from the get go how this would turn out, but as always the silly leftwing hippies were told to shut the fuck up. So now putting Ms. Center Right corporatist Republican in charge of the national party is proving bad for the party and the same people who put here there in the first place are going "Who me?" Never met her!"
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Was good public policy.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)She's an embarrassment!