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America's Least Generous Billionaires - The Waltons (Original Post) RockaFowler Sep 2014 OP
Cheapest are the hardcore repukes...asshats...knr joeybee12 Sep 2014 #1
Well Alice has expenses you know - TBF Sep 2014 #2
Sam must be hifiguy Sep 2014 #3
Jeff Bezos just missed the list... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #4
They give some through fam the chartily foundations Cicada Sep 2014 #5
Why do you think that chart doesn't include $$$ TBF Sep 2014 #6
So are you saying that that chart doesn't include money that Bill Gates Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #11
Well I am glad you have shown up TBF Sep 2014 #12
I am not "defending" them per se Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #13
Anyone can enjoy that art on the Internet TBF Sep 2014 #14
Nonsense Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #15
I'm glad your mom is happy - TBF Sep 2014 #18
Greedy and stingy Faux pas Sep 2014 #7
They'd seriously pull a Kris Jenner and start their own tax dodge church if they could. Initech Sep 2014 #8
there they are......Sams Club MFM008 Sep 2014 #9
Alice Walton has actually donated more than $300 million Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #10
The Duchess of SprawlMart should give it back to the workers leftstreet Sep 2014 #16
I don't disagree with that Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #17
Again, Alice's little project in Arkansas is not a donation to charity - TBF Sep 2014 #19
All charitable donations are tax deductible Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #20
Back in 2002, the Walton family also donated $300 million to the University of Arkansas Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #23
and alice expects praise DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #21
Not even food drives Quantess Sep 2014 #22
Let's talk a little more about Alice -- TBF Sep 2014 #24

TBF

(31,922 posts)
2. Well Alice has expenses you know -
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:44 PM
Sep 2014

gotta pay off those pesky families who sue her after she runs down their family members in one of her drunken binges ....

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. Jeff Bezos just missed the list...
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:53 PM
Sep 2014

but he's worth maybe 30 billion and loaded up a foundation his parents run with Amazon stock. The foundation so far gave away maybe a couple hundred million, a hundred million of which went to cancer research. None of this came out of his pocket.

As cheap fuckers who exploit employees go, this one's pretty close to the top of the list.

But, hey, keep telling us about the latest deal you got with Amazon Prime.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
5. They give some through fam the chartily foundations
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:56 PM
Sep 2014

In fairness they have given several hundred million via family foundations. Still shockingly little but not as bad as the chart indicates.

TBF

(31,922 posts)
6. Why do you think that chart doesn't include $$$
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 02:19 PM
Sep 2014

they've given through their foundations? That's exactly HOW most billionaires give money.

It's always nice when folks show up to make excuses for the wealthy ...

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
11. So are you saying that that chart doesn't include money that Bill Gates
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 07:40 PM
Sep 2014

has donated to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. I am not "defending" them per se
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:24 PM
Sep 2014

However, I prefer real information instead of what appear to be made-up numbers.

To claim, for example, that Alice Walton only donated $2.6 million of her own money for charity from 2008 to 2013 is nonsense, since she has sunk more than $300 million of her own money in a wonderful art museum that is free to anyone who wants to visit it. That might not be your idea of "charity", but it is non-profit and available for free to anyone who wants to visit it, including thousands of schoolchildren who might not otherwise have an opportunity to see authentic American art by such renowned artists as John Singleton Copley, Georgia O'Keefe, Andy Warhol, Mary Cassatt, Frederick Remington, Norman Rockwell, and Gilbert Charles Stuart, among many others. Visitors are also allowed to take flashless photographs, so they can enjoy the art even after they've left the museum.

TBF

(31,922 posts)
14. Anyone can enjoy that art on the Internet
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:27 PM
Sep 2014

so I'd hardly consider a museum in Arkansas as groundbreaking charity.

But it's nice to hear she had some money left over after she paid off the family of the woman she killed while driving drunk. Go Alice.

Honestly, you are really picking the wrong lady to champion.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
15. Nonsense
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:38 PM
Sep 2014

Viewing something on the Internet is NOT the same as seeing the real thing in person. Have you never been to a first-rate art museum? The last time I was in the area, I took my mom there and she just LOVED it. She doesn't have a lot of joy in her life these days, but that day at the museum was an absolute joy for her. She could never have gotten that kind of enjoyment just by looking at pictures on the Internet.

And once again, I am not defending Alice Walton's personal life-- that's not what this thread is about, it is a completely different topic. What I am objecting to is the misleading portrayal of her charitable donations here. The museum might not be "groundbreaking" from your perspective, but it certainly is for Northwest Arkansas, and it is charitable.

TBF

(31,922 posts)
18. I'm glad your mom is happy -
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:20 PM
Sep 2014

that certainly excuses all of Alice's other *ahem* adventures.

I'm sorry you don't like the way Mother Jones has laid out the truth for everyone to see. I'm sure that is hard to stomach when you so obviously admire the family. I hope they have done a lot for you personally, because they sure haven't done much for their employees or the rest of the country afaic.

MFM008

(19,776 posts)
9. there they are......Sams Club
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 05:05 PM
Sep 2014

And the Koch brothers usually give money to whatever glorifies them. Colleges, whatever.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
10. Alice Walton has actually donated more than $300 million
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 06:04 PM
Sep 2014

to an art museum called Crystal Bridges in Bentonville, Arkansas that houses many permanent exhibits of American art and is open free to the public. I have no idea where they get that figure of a mere $2.6 million, but it's way off.

And in 2013, Alice Walton was ranked #16 on the Forbes list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Bridges_Museum_of_American_Art

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
17. I don't disagree with that
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:46 PM
Sep 2014

However, among all the billionaires on that list, who didn't rely on workers to earn their money?

I'm not defending Ms. Walton per se, only to mention that the information in that chart is incorrect. And I am all too familiar with Wal-Mart wages, having worked in one of the Bentonville warehouses on and off while Sam was still around.

TBF

(31,922 posts)
19. Again, Alice's little project in Arkansas is not a donation to charity -
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:21 PM
Sep 2014

no matter how you view it. It's a tax deduction for her, ok? Enough of this already.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
20. All charitable donations are tax deductible
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:34 PM
Sep 2014

Do you think any of those billionaires on that list don't take a tax deduction on their donations?

The donations to the museum are absolutely charitable, whether you want to admit it or not.

http://www.aam-us.org/docs/default-source/advocacy/brief-charitable-giving.pdf?sfvrsn=16

I realize that you have a personal grudge against Ms. Walton for that car accident, and I can understand that. I am certainly not defending her personal life. But the other claims you are making are ridiculous, including the outrageous one about a $450 million project in Arkansas as being "little".

TBF

(31,922 posts)
24. Let's talk a little more about Alice --
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:46 AM
Sep 2014

The Acapulco crash that left her left leg shorter than her right, was to be the first of many for Walton. Five years later, while speeding in Fayetteville, Ark., she struck and killed Oleta Hardin, a 50-year-old cannery worker. She never received so much as a ticket.

Walton managed to keep her fender clean for nearly a decade after the deadly collision but, in 1998, she got wasted and totaled an SUV in Springdale, Ark.

"Do you who I am?" She asked responding officers who charged her with a DWI. "Do you know my last name?" It was a rhetorical question.

http://mic.com/articles/79039/the-untold-story-of-alice-walton-s-dwi-incident

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