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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:38 AM Sep 2014

The Unbelievable Harassment Black Women Face Daily on Twitter

http://www.alternet.org/unbelievable-harassment-black-women-face-daily-twitter


This is a screenshot Imani Gandy took of one of her many abusers.

When Feminista Jones wakes up each morning and checks her mentions on Twitter, she is likely to see tweets of the most derogatory and threatening nature. Some users call her a bitch, ho or other offensive names. Feminista estimates that she has blocked more than 500 accounts over the years. With nearly 35,000 followers on Twitter, Feminista is one of the most well-known feminist voices online. Her prominence come with a price, as it attracts a bevy of abusers who hurl threats of rape and sexual assault.

Reporting such harassment doesn’t do much good, she says, as many of her most persistent abusers simply create new accounts and continue their harassment. And Twitter’s response time operates at a snail pace, Feminista says of her experience reporting harassment. The abuse has been going on for so long that she has gotten used to it, but the toll it has taken on her spirit has been immense.

“I get attacked on a daily basis," she told AlterNet in an interview. “There’s not a day that goes by when someone isn’t trolling or harassing me. But what I’ve also noticed is that the kind of direct defense that I receive has been relatively minimal, and it usually comes from the same people every time. Some people say to me, 'Oh I see you’re handling it, so I figure that you’ve got it' or 'You’re such a strong woman. You got it. You take it on your shoulders and you’re just so good at it.' And I don’t know if it’s the strong black women trope or something else, but a lot of people feel I don’t need the help and so they don’t. I also think some people are afraid of catching the same kind of heat if they intervene directly.”

Raevin Wade, who goes by the name Afro-Latina on Twitter, has nearly 11,000 followers, and often tweets photos celebrating black female beauty. Apparently this also attracts racist harassers; she told AlterNet that she has blocked more than 50 people this year alone.
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The Unbelievable Harassment Black Women Face Daily on Twitter (Original Post) xchrom Sep 2014 OP
Some people lovemydog Sep 2014 #1
It's very telling that the abuse and harassment almost stop when these women are Arkansas Granny Sep 2014 #2
I used to run a MMORPG (online roleplaying game) server. Recursion Sep 2014 #6
Not to diminish the travails of Black women, but I would assert that chervilant Sep 2014 #3
Yes, but it is very important we don't 'what about white women' KitSileya Sep 2014 #11
absolutely. and this cannot be stressed enough. i talked about how this article so fits with hof seabeyond Sep 2014 #18
Hence my disclaimer. chervilant Sep 2014 #21
In nearly 30 years of opinionated online commentary, I have never received a death or rape threat Recursion Sep 2014 #4
Cowards. Feral Child Sep 2014 #5
Not just black women, any women of color Lee-Lee Sep 2014 #7
To Feminista Jones drop the twitter account whistler162 Sep 2014 #8
Thank you customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #9
We women face as much sexism and misogyny IRL as we do on these websites. chervilant Sep 2014 #23
The abuse IRL matters customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #26
That also silences her gollygee Sep 2014 #10
+1 Scuba Sep 2014 #20
It doesn't matter what platform she uses. KitSileya Sep 2014 #12
Then they win. That is their endgame. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #13
because so much more in the name of progression is accomplished in silence? that does not work. seabeyond Sep 2014 #19
Again, the perpetrators of the hate, bigotry, sexism and misogyny chervilant Sep 2014 #24
Why is this not treated as stalking and hate crime? Skidmore Sep 2014 #14
Verbal jackassery on the Internet? Oktober Sep 2014 #15
... chervilant Sep 2014 #25
While undoubtedly worse for black women, women in general catch more abuse and harassment online Triana Sep 2014 #16
exact same with hof. and then, people wil hold up the number of people banned from the group. seabeyond Sep 2014 #17
Actually, I bet yahoo is worse... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #27

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
1. Some people
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:47 AM
Sep 2014

go out of their way to harass someone who is trying to celebrate diversity. I know I shouldn't be amazed at that, but I am. I guess for those types of people it must suck to be them.

Arkansas Granny

(31,506 posts)
2. It's very telling that the abuse and harassment almost stop when these women are
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:41 AM
Sep 2014

perceived as being male.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. I used to run a MMORPG (online roleplaying game) server.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:50 AM
Sep 2014

Our user polls told us that about 25% of our users were women (this was a decade ago; more women MMORPG now) and that 75% of them chose male avatars to avoid harassment. That really troubles me.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
3. Not to diminish the travails of Black women, but I would assert that
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:45 AM
Sep 2014
most women get online harassment from sexists and misogynists. In fact, the article you've linked concluded with this observation.

As one Black Feminist observed, when she created a "white male persona":

“As a white man, that was the most fun I had online in terms of actually getting to talk to people and not be insulted by them,” she said. “People thought I was wrong, people thought I was ridiculous but nobody thought I was stupid. I received fewer slurs and people were a lot more interested in my thought process than when I was anything else.”


I've had similar experiences online, even on this forum. It's most distressing that so many people -- mostly men -- have so little self-esteem.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
11. Yes, but it is very important we don't 'what about white women'
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:36 AM
Sep 2014

The harassment of women of color is more vituperative, and follows different cultural stereotypes. White feminists need to check their privilege too, and we shouldn't fall into the same trap so many men do with us, and say "what about white women".

A good source for deconstruction of the harassment black women face is Trudy at Gradient Lair

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
18. absolutely. and this cannot be stressed enough. i talked about how this article so fits with hof
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:02 AM
Sep 2014

experience on du, and the ability to be demonized as we are insulted and attacked.

and yes. black women experience a whole other level that what white women experience. that is a whole other conversation.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
21. Hence my disclaimer.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:52 PM
Sep 2014

I have nieces and extended family who've had the worst harassment imaginable. I have had Latina friends and students describe similar experiences. It's a sad reality for our species--to evince such hate and vitriol.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. In nearly 30 years of opinionated online commentary, I have never received a death or rape threat
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:48 AM
Sep 2014

Not even once. Not even peripherally. Because I'm male. People who try to minimize the abuse women face online irritate the hell out of me.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
8. To Feminista Jones drop the twitter account
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:04 AM
Sep 2014

and get as many other as you can to drop theirs. It is called a boycott.

You aren't going to change many of the harassers, so hurt Twitter in its ad revenue. I am not sure how Twitter/Facebook could change to stop harassment without being more big brotherish.

Next enter a 10 step Twitter/Facebook/Instagram addiction program. If you have to check your twitter account every morning when you wake up it is as bad a that cigarette you used to, assumption on my part, needed to get started every morning.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. Thank you
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:19 AM
Sep 2014

Twitter and Facebook addictions are the root of the problem. If you ignore those places, maybe you'll see what life was like before every miniscule ordinary action and whimpering was put on public display.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
23. We women face as much sexism and misogyny IRL as we do on these websites.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:18 PM
Sep 2014

My nieces, whose skin is light because of their multi-racial heritage, are subject to even more than my white female relatives, but we've all had to learn how to deal with the hate, the harassment, the belittling, the condescension, the patronizing, the "hey, babe, why won't you smile for me?" kind of crap from men.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
26. The abuse IRL matters
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 10:36 PM
Sep 2014

The stuff on websites we didn't need or know about 10-15 years ago is completely avoidable. I draw a distinction between the two, as the IRL is unavoidable.

I hope we get to the day when your nieces no longer have to put up with any crap because of their appearance.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
10. That also silences her
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:32 AM
Sep 2014

She's using her Twitter account to affect change through social media. It might hurt Twitter for her to stop, but it also keeps her from doing the work she's doing. And it gives the people attacking her the exact outcome they were hoping for.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
12. It doesn't matter what platform she uses.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:40 AM
Sep 2014

Twitter, Tumblr, Instagram, Facebook - she would be harassed equally in all of them, and in any others she may choose to use to be active on. WHat you are saying is really that she should shut up, so she isn't harassed.

Now, where have we heard that before? She shouldn't have drunk so much/worn that skirt/walked out after dark/worked in that office.... You are hardly progressive in your views here.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. because so much more in the name of progression is accomplished in silence? that does not work.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:05 AM
Sep 2014

do not accomplish anything. is not successful.

this woman, in this OP spoke out. and every person reading it is informed. what they do with it is their own, but her voice was heard. education, awareness is possible with acknowledgement. and that is the only way to progress forward.

more to the point. EVERY person that sees the harassment, speak up, call it out.

then something can actually be accomplished.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
24. Again, the perpetrators of the hate, bigotry, sexism and misogyny
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:32 PM
Sep 2014

are NOT the focus of the solution. Why am I not surprised?

Why aren't we going to change the harassers? Why aren't we looking at THEIR behavior, and developing protocols to block their crap?

I think social media have a responsibility to stop the unbelievable harassment of women of color, indeed ALL women.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
14. Why is this not treated as stalking and hate crime?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:14 AM
Sep 2014

It seems to me that free speech does not cover this.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
16. While undoubtedly worse for black women, women in general catch more abuse and harassment online
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:51 AM
Sep 2014

Everywhere. I've seen it for literally decades. Women who don't want to endure that either use a gender-neutral name and avatar or a male one.

It's the product of a world that largely doesn't consider any women human.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
17. exact same with hof. and then, people wil hold up the number of people banned from the group.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:58 AM
Sep 2014

see how mean hof women are? all those banned. bad bad hof.

could be the nature of certain people beelining to the group to insult and disrupt?

thanks for exposure. this is common. and yes, ... black women are harassed more, for obvious reasons.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. Actually, I bet yahoo is worse...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:02 PM
Sep 2014

Paid teabaggers who spew some of the most racist, sexist, homophobic shit ever.

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