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sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:25 PM Sep 2014

~ One Woman~ A dedication to the Women of DU.

Last edited Sat Sep 20, 2014, 11:09 PM - Edit history (1)







We come in many shapes and sizes~
Our color may differ yet we stand as One Woman~



Two feet firmly planted...will be joined with others~



Now we are many voices standing for our rights~
Together we sing and our voices rise in harmony ~

We are Strong. We are invincible. We are Women~



And~

We are Women- Watch us Soar~



Truth!~



I Am Woman

I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'Cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong
(Strong)
I am invincible
(Invincible)
I am woman

You can bend but never break me
'Cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'Cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong
(Strong)
I am invincible
(Invincible)
I am woman

I am woman watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long, long way to go
Until I make my brother understand

Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can face anything
I am strong
(Strong)
I am invincible
(Invincible)
I am woman

I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman



Read more: Helen Reddy - I Am Woman Lyrics | MetroLyrics

This is for seabeyond and bainesbane who seem to be IMHO alert stalked here. And for the loss of redqueen, you too Whisp. Stop silencing our voices. There is no need to talk over us. There is no need to shut us up or shut us down. Our voices and our goals are for our future, our childrens future. Why are you so afraid of us?

This is for every Woman on DU and beyond. This is for all the men that love us and fight for us every damn day. We are Women and we will not sit down and shut up. Some try to make us. Funny thing is, they have no clue who they are dealing with.




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~ One Woman~ A dedication to the Women of DU. (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2014 OP
Amen shenmue Sep 2014 #1
Luv ya shenmue sheshe2 Sep 2014 #2
:) shenmue Sep 2014 #4
please consider helping get this neocon wife beating judge impeached questionseverything Sep 2014 #115
That sorry excuse for a man needs to be put in jail! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #117
yes he does questionseverything Sep 2014 #121
:toast: NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #3
Thanks for the vid, SKP! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #8
I second that! Kath1 Sep 2014 #17
Love you Kath1! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #22
My pleasure! Kath1 Sep 2014 #73
Beautiful! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #75
Thanks for th video mercuryblues Sep 2014 #92
Beautiful! Thank you :-) Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #5
:) sheshe2 Sep 2014 #24
You man hater you! Texasgal Sep 2014 #6
LOL! Kath1 Sep 2014 #15
>>>> sheshe2 Sep 2014 #25
Wow, she. Great OP. brer cat Sep 2014 #7
Hey you... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #19
.... littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #37
Thanks, sheshe2. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #9
Yes! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #20
DITTO! elleng Sep 2014 #28
... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #44
Kicketty. Kick. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #10
Excellent and inspiring, she! Kath1 Sep 2014 #11
You are my sister and such a beautiful beautiful creature~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #29
You bring a tear to my eye. Kath1 Sep 2014 #34
Kick. Agschmid Sep 2014 #12
I count 19 women in the pictures hfojvt Sep 2014 #13
maybe it's just me... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #45
Remember, though... ReRe Sep 2014 #71
I do make fun of the pictureS hfojvt Sep 2014 #102
wonderful and uplifting etherealtruth Sep 2014 #14
How sweet! treestar Sep 2014 #16
I love this. Raine1967 Sep 2014 #18
K&R greatlaurel Sep 2014 #21
Thread brought to you by chocolate littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #23
Thank you, sheshe2. femmocrat Sep 2014 #26
No we will never forget. Not ever! Our fore-mothers were are strengthen. Our Hope/ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #35
Yes! elleng Sep 2014 #27
Awesome sheshe. Marie Marie Sep 2014 #30
Just HAD to add this one: madamesilverspurs Sep 2014 #31
Love her madamesilverspurs! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #59
Though you have blocked me from your group tblue Sep 2014 #32
I just unblocked you. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #74
Quite possibly the most inspirational post ever. riqster Sep 2014 #33
'Funny thing is, they have no clue who they are dealing with.' Kath1 Sep 2014 #36
'Funny thing is, they have no clue who they are dealing with.' sheshe2 Sep 2014 #135
Women are coming. eom littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #38
Sisters Are Doin' It! Kath1 Sep 2014 #40
Sisters Are Doin' It! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #47
Annie Lennox and Aretha Franklin! Kath1 Sep 2014 #52
Well that choked me right up. Wouldn't it be nice nolabear Sep 2014 #39
It sure would, nolabear. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #41
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #42
So many awesome replies! Kath1 Sep 2014 #43
"...So You Better Treat Her (and Pay Her) Right..." Tikki Sep 2014 #46
Right on! Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #48
Thank you, sheshe2! Great Post FormerOstrich Sep 2014 #49
Oh....tears, yes... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #50
Thank you that means a lot to me! FormerOstrich Sep 2014 #57
That's really lovely. Thanks. nolabear Sep 2014 #55
I am woman MuseRider Sep 2014 #51
Very well-said. Kath1 Sep 2014 #58
This is for seabeyond. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #53
So sad to hear this... ReRe Sep 2014 #77
K&R ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #54
This is for BainesBane too. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #56
I have a question. Are you telling DUers not to alert on specific DUers no matter what they say? Violet_Crumble Sep 2014 #62
Ha Ha Ha! Yup MuseRider Sep 2014 #63
That seems to be what she's saying, which is why I asked her a question about it.. Violet_Crumble Sep 2014 #64
My post is below Violet. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #78
My post is also below, sheshe Violet_Crumble Sep 2014 #89
Maybe if enough monkeys take all the letters she typed and rearrange them enough times kcr Sep 2014 #95
Hi Violet... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #68
Um, you didn't answer my question and the nasty attack on me was the third one... Violet_Crumble Sep 2014 #69
You are the only woman to seek out my thread sheshe2 Sep 2014 #79
It doesn't take any seeking when it was the top of the page... Violet_Crumble Sep 2014 #88
This for all the women in my life. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #137
This is for all the feminists who I admire and respect... Violet_Crumble Sep 2014 #140
thanks for the helen, as i read and listened at the same time. another time. not comparable. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Sep 2014 #139
Do you have proof of this? Did you alert Skinner? nt Logical Sep 2014 #65
It will never go anywhere. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #86
I'll set aside my gender loyalties and my complaints about relationship heartaches NBachers Sep 2014 #60
DU Rec. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #61
Kick for a fabulous post. proReality Sep 2014 #66
"Courage is more exhilarating than fear, A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2014 #67
I love that quote! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #70
Me and you both! FormerOstrich Sep 2014 #111
Thanks for the inspiration, I will gladly share this with my senior group. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #127
Beautiful and strong! defacto7 Sep 2014 #72
What an Inspiring OP, she! Mahalo! Cha Sep 2014 #76
Thank you Cha! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #81
Just thought I add a beautiful pic to your photo-journal essay about the strength of Women, she~ Cha Sep 2014 #82
I love you Cha! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Sep 2014 #85
Kicking for every woman abused~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #80
Kicking for every man and woman that stand together sheshe2 Sep 2014 #83
Kicking ... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #87
Excellent thread dedicated to the women of DU, sheshe2. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #90
Excellent! Thanks so much! n/t eridani Sep 2014 #91
What a mercuryblues Sep 2014 #93
i often visualize.... mitt on one hand. the incoming. catch, throw, catch throw. the quicker seabeyond Sep 2014 #96
what an awesomely inspiring, well put together OP. and ... i started with the song, as i read thru seabeyond Sep 2014 #94
Thanks sea~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #123
K&R mcar Sep 2014 #97
k & r edgineered Sep 2014 #98
K&R! Thanks for this! MineralMan Sep 2014 #99
My dear sheshe, what a beautiful & great OP. William769 Sep 2014 #100
You are a good friend William~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #114
Well okay then. Threedifferentones Sep 2014 #101
Well, we could have got this instead. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #103
what are you saying? without actually saying it? seabeyond Sep 2014 #104
... William769 Sep 2014 #105
thank you, william. cause that is what i am thinking, but i dont know. so say it.... seabeyond Sep 2014 #107
I stand with you sheshe2. Thanks for the great post. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #106
I am kicking again...... FormerOstrich Sep 2014 #108
+1 mercuryblues Sep 2014 #129
Giving a kick while I am here. MuseRider Sep 2014 #109
Actually, you said that very well, MuseRider. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #119
Beautiful OP! Spazito Sep 2014 #110
it was great 1dogleft Sep 2014 #112
There are those who seem to relish disrupting threads like this... Spazito Sep 2014 #113
Hurray For Us! colsohlibgal Sep 2014 #116
Last night I watched the finale of "The Roosevelts" ... napkinz Sep 2014 #118
Brava to Eleanor Roosevelt. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #122
there's so much I didn't know about her napkinz Sep 2014 #124
Sadly I missed it napkinz. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #128
I'm sure it will be repeated ... check your local listings napkinz Sep 2014 #132
It will be on until 9/28, on PBS here. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #133
Kick cwydro Sep 2014 #120
kick & rec ! nt steve2470 Sep 2014 #125
K&R. With extra love to sheshe Small Accumulates Sep 2014 #126
Brilliant, she~ Cha Sep 2014 #130
A great day for a thread like this!! Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #131
Love and Hugs~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #138
XOXOXO, back atcha, sheshe2! Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #141
Joan Jett~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #145
"The world will be saved by the western woman." -the Dalai Lama KamaAina Sep 2014 #134
Kicking one more time.... FormerOstrich Sep 2014 #136
+1. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #143
As Eleanor Roosevelt said, "It takes a nation nation of millions to hold us back." AngryAmish Sep 2014 #144
... napkinz Sep 2014 #146
I am loving that one napkinz! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #147

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
121. yes he does
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:28 PM
Sep 2014

this is the second wife he has beat bloody(he beat the first wife's kids too)

this is one neo con we can get out of power if women band together...there is more than a case for impeachment

this guy should not be a federal judge!!!

please help spread the word

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
8. Thanks for the vid, SKP!
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:51 PM
Sep 2014

You were one of those men I was talking about. The ones who love and support us!

Thank you!

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
22. Love you Kath1!
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:15 PM
Sep 2014

You rallied for us last weekend, I love you for that!



Still I Rise

by Maya Angelou
You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.

Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
'Cause I walk like I've got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.

Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still I'll rise.

Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops,
Weakened by my soulful cries?

Does my haughtiness offend you?
Don't you take it awful hard
'Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines
Diggin' in my own backyard.

You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I'll rise.

Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I've got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?

Out of the huts of history's shame
I rise
Up from a past that's rooted in pain
I rise
I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.

Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that's wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.
- See more at: http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15623#sthash.rzSjIksx.dpuf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024805722

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
92. Thanks for th video
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:38 AM
Sep 2014

I was going to look it up to post. Instead I get to pour myself another cup of caffeine.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
19. Hey you...
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:05 PM
Sep 2014

I was having a sad tonight. So many women targeted. Janay. It happens every few minutes of the day. It happens on a Democratic board and that breaks my heart.

I will not shut up! My favorite video ever! Ya, I have posted it several times. Women! We are Awesome!



Luv ya brer cat!

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
11. Excellent and inspiring, she!
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:54 PM
Sep 2014

Attended the We Are Woman rally in DC last week! I was a lttle disappointed at the numbers and we got rained on but it was still great. The speakers were very good. So happy to see that most of the crowd was young!!!

Peace and love always, sister!

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
34. You bring a tear to my eye.
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:38 PM
Sep 2014

Peace and equality are wonderful things, are they not?

We share the same vision, my beautiful and inspiring sister!

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
13. I count 19 women in the pictures
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:55 PM
Sep 2014

and all 19 seem to be fairly svelte.

"we come in many shapes and sizes"

and many ages as well.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
45. maybe it's just me...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:09 AM
Sep 2014

yet i think you make fun of that picture...

So here are a few others.


aging



hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
102. I do make fun of the pictureS
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:57 AM
Sep 2014

because there is a certain sexism of "pictures of attractive thin women" that even these two pictures fall into.

What I mean is THIS, if you check out the picture in this blog

http://bkwrm513.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/normal-women/

The 2nd and the 4th women in particular. Lots and lots of women look more like that than they do like the 3rd and 5th women, particularly as they age. At least a couple of girls from my high school class, looked more like the 5th woman when they graduated from high school and more like the 2nd woman at the 20 year reunion.

Yet all of the pictures of your celebration of women seem to be pictures of the 3rd woman (or even "better" because the 3rd woman is actually kinda skinny). Like I said - 19 of the 19 women pictured looked like that, seemingly both young and "attractive". The blogger says size 14 is average and those 19 women all seem to be size 8 or less.

I think that is both unfortunate and ironic.

littlemissmartypants

(22,655 posts)
23. Thread brought to you by chocolate
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:16 PM
Sep 2014

And vanilla.
Love, Peace and the Righteous Fight!
~ littlemissmartypants

🙆

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
26. Thank you, sheshe2.
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:20 PM
Sep 2014

Let us not forget our fore-mothers!

December 10, 1923
The Equal Rights Amendment, written by Alice Paul, is introduced in Congress

“We shall not be safe until the principle of equal rights is written into the framework of our government.”
– Alice Paul
If the states ratify it, the Equal Rights Amendment introduced today in Congress would require government to treat men and women with exact equality.

Winning the vote three years ago was a big step. Yet women are still not full citizens. Many states still prohibit women from serving on juries, and differences continue in married women’s rights to control property and make contracts.

Alice Paul, who wrote the ERA and helped found the National Women’s Party which backs it, says the only remedy is to amend the Constitution again.



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sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
35. No we will never forget. Not ever! Our fore-mothers were are strengthen. Our Hope/
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:39 PM
Sep 2014


Tears for what endured then and what we still endure.

Women on DU are being silenced. Why is that? Why do we frightened some men so?

sea baines redqueen, love you.

madamesilverspurs

(15,801 posts)
31. Just HAD to add this one:
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:26 PM
Sep 2014

Maggie Fox (aka Mrs. Mark Udall) is known for her red boots. A brilliant and delightful person in her own right, she only recently stepped down from her position as CEO of Al Gore's Climate Reality Project. We're looking forward to her visit in a couple of days.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
59. Love her madamesilverspurs!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:09 AM
Sep 2014

Brava!

I will add another woman!

Wendy Davis ...Texas~



We are women and so very strong. To us for us. We are beautiful.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
32. Though you have blocked me from your group
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:32 PM
Sep 2014

I am glad to agree with you that none of our voices should be silenced. As the mom of a very liberal son, I believe every human voice should be heard.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
36. 'Funny thing is, they have no clue who they are dealing with.'
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 10:56 PM
Sep 2014

So very true!

We will NOT sit down. We will NOT shut up. Never.

WE ae the future of this country, whether they like it or not!

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
135. 'Funny thing is, they have no clue who they are dealing with.'
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:22 AM
Sep 2014

No they don't Kath! however they are going to find out!

They are gonna know we are coming soon! One Woman!

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
47. Sisters Are Doin' It!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:25 AM
Sep 2014

Yes! Brava!!!!!

Sisters~ Thank you for that video Kath! dayum that was awesome!

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
52. Annie Lennox and Aretha Franklin!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:43 AM
Sep 2014

Sending a powerful message. ~Always loved that one~



Sisterhood is awesome!

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
39. Well that choked me right up. Wouldn't it be nice
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 11:11 PM
Sep 2014

If people, men and women alike, treated us well? Nothing more, just let that old Golden Rule be applied to us too.

Thanks for this post.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
43. So many awesome replies!
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 11:49 PM
Sep 2014


You struck a chord with us, she.

With all the negative shit going on, it is wonderful to see such response to something so positive!

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
49. Thank you, sheshe2! Great Post
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:30 AM
Sep 2014

I don't know who originally authored this but it is a favorite:

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD HAVE...
...one old love she can imagine going back to...
...and one who reminds her how far she has come...

...enough money within her control to move out and rent a place of her own even if she never wants to and needs to...

...something perfect to wear if the employer or date of her dreams wants to see her in an hour...

...a youth she's content to leave behind...
...a past juicy enough that she's looking forward to retelling it in her old age...

...the realization that she is actually going to have an old age and some money set aside to fund it..

...a set of screwdrivers, a cordless drill, and a black lace bra...

...one friend who always makes her laugh...
... and one who lets her cry...

...a good piece of furniture not previously owned by anyone else in her family...

...eight matching plates, wine glasses with stems, and a recipe for a meal that will make her guests feel honored...

...a resume that is not even slightest bit padded...

...a feeling of control over her destiny...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...
...how to fall in love without losing herself...

...how to quit a job, break up with a lover, and confront a friend without ruining the friendship...

...when to try harder... and when to walk away...

...how to have a good time at a party she'd never choose to attend...
...how to ask for what she wants in a way that makes it most likely she'll get it...

...that she can't change the length of her calves, the width of her hips, or the nature of her parents...

...that her childhood may not have been perfect... but its over...

...what she would and wouldn't do for love or more...
...how to live alone... even if she doesn't like it...

...whom she can trust, whom she can't, and why she shouldn't take it personally...

...where to go... be it to her best friend's kitchen table... or a charming inn in the woods... when her soul needs soothing...

...what she can and can't accomplish in a day... a month... and a year...

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
50. Oh....tears, yes...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:38 AM
Sep 2014
...a set of screwdrivers, a cordless drill, and a black lace bra...

...one friend who always makes her laugh...
... and one who lets her cry...



snip

..a youth she's content to leave behind...
...a past juicy enough that she's looking forward to retelling it in her old age...


Dayum~ Loving you FormerOstrich




MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
51. I am woman
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:40 AM
Sep 2014

that song came out my first year in college I believe, 1971. It got me through so many break ups, disappointments, being told that I should go home and get married and have babies rather than go to college even when I carried 18 hours and made over a 3.0 grade point. Being paid less than the man I was training. Oddly it still rings in my mind way too often. I had thought back then that it was only a short time until we could put our struggles behind us because, WHAT? How could anyone not see the importance of letting us participate? Well there ya have it. At 60 I am tired of it all and angry, downright damned angry that it is really not a whole lot better than it was then and maybe not at all. Not where it matters anyway.

Thank you to you sheshe2 and all the others that fight it here every day. My fight has been elsewhere because I thought I already did this one and quite frankly I am sick to death of having to prove I should be allowed to exist unmolested and uncontrolled by others notions of what I should be. Keep it up ladies. It is a long and hard struggle.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
58. Very well-said.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:05 AM
Sep 2014

I would have been 13 when the song came out. I "woke up" in 2004, many years later, and became MUCH more liberal/progressive/feminist/anti-war. That song really resonates with me now - through divorse, single parenthood, etc., etc.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
53. This is for seabeyond.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:44 AM
Sep 2014

She is being silenced here.

Stop silencing women! We have a voice. We matter.

I ask you to stop with the alert stalking. Yes it is happpening and women are being silenced on a Democratic board

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
77. So sad to hear this...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:08 AM
Sep 2014

You know. I have been here soon to be 2 years (as a member. Lurked for 9-10yrs.) I have never alerted or hidden anyone on this board. I believe that everyone should have their say, and who am I to judge what someone else should say or not say? If I don't like the subject or some of the responses, I just back out and go on to another thread. What's so hard about that? And why do some have to be so ugly and negative with their personal attacks on others?

And while I am here, let me thank you for this OP. I have enjoyed every reply, every video, every poem. Because really, where would this world be WITHOUT women?

K&R

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
56. This is for BainesBane too.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:55 AM
Sep 2014

For her voice, stop telling her to be quiet.

Alert stalking on DU! Really? Have we sadly become the RW party that tells a woman what she can say and do? DU, I am ashamed of you.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
62. I have a question. Are you telling DUers not to alert on specific DUers no matter what they say?
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:16 AM
Sep 2014

And that anyone who alerts on them or votes to hide their posts are alert stalkers?

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
64. That seems to be what she's saying, which is why I asked her a question about it..
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:29 AM
Sep 2014

You do realise what I asked was a question, right? I was kind of hoping I'd get something called an answer, preferably from sheshe, and definitely without snark. The reason I'm asking is I alerted on one of the hidden posts and I'd really like to know if alerting on a nasty attack on myself is alert stalking...

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
78. My post is below Violet.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:29 AM
Sep 2014

I assume you are a woman, Violet. Correct me if I am wrong.

You came onto a thread that says we are ONE WOMAN and that we stand together and we fight together for every damn thing that is thrown in our face. Every damn abuse that is thrown at us. Rape, abuse, getting your fiances fist shoved in your face cause he is a football player and he was drunk. Then he dragged her out and dumped her on her face! Frick That!

Not one comment on the subject of this OP! Not ONE!

Violet, you came here to complain about an alert that I had no clue you made. You alerted on another woman you disagreed with. Then came to this thread to shame me? Really? This is a post about women with compassionate souls.

Wow Violet!

I was kind of hoping I'd get something called an answer, preferably from sheshe, and definitely without snark.


Dear god Violet! Show some compassion for the Women of this world and their stuggle. Shame on you!

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
89. My post is also below, sheshe
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:38 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5565239

Let me get this straight. You liberally peppered this thread (including the OP) with complaints that one or two DUers were alert-stalked. (see my post below for more details). But no-one's supposed to talk about that or disagree with you. And then when I tell you that one of the hidden posts that yr complaining about as being supposedly part of an alert-stalking ring was an attack on me where I was told that I resent discussions of human trafficking and child rape at DU, and that it wasn't alert stalking, you inform me that I alerted on a woman I disagreed with? Gosh, that makes it sound like it was merely disagreement over something trivial, not what it really was, which was far worse and very justifiably hidden by a jury. What aren't you grasping about the fact that saying something so revolting to another woman isn't acceptable? I wouldn't find that acceptable to be said to any woman at DU...

And I'm not sure how me pointing out that at least two of those hidden posts weren't alert stalking is shaming you. Or how what I'm seeing right now is an example of compassionate souls in action.

I don't know if anyone's ever mentioned this before, but it might be handy to tuck away for future reference. DU and the jury system and disagreeing strongly with you on yr belief that alerting on a personal attack is alert stalking isn't showing a lack of compassion for the Women of this world and their struggle. If you want to focus on the Women of this world and their struggle, then my suggestion would be not to pepper yr posts with complaints about time-outs and hidden posts.

I guess I should also point to the post of yrs in this thread that I replied to. I didn't realise at the time I was supposed to be silent. Oh, well...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5565142

kcr

(15,315 posts)
95. Maybe if enough monkeys take all the letters she typed and rearrange them enough times
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:45 AM
Sep 2014

Then I can see how you could read it that way.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
68. Hi Violet...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 02:03 AM
Sep 2014

I too have a question...

Have you bothered to read the hides...

here...this was hidden


Note that it is acceptable to blame victims

but not tell others their posts doing so are hurtful to survivors.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=50576


oh wait another one!

If you "wonder"

Pick up a book on battered women (such as The Battered Woman). Educate yourself rather than wondering aloud and hurting people.


another

BainsBane This message was hidden by Jury decision. Hide
130. In the Belle Knox thread, You told me you saw yourself as third wave

You said you took some quiz that identified you as such. You insisted I had no right to take exception to being called second wave or sex negative because you and the boys club decided that is what I was.

This is the precise text.

I don't see how anyone could take offense at that as the different waves of feminism have been discussed a lot in both feminist groups at DU. I did a quiz someone posted in one of the groups and it said I was a third wave feminist, but after reading about them all, I think there's bits of each that I agree with...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025366495#post148

Now you are offended by something you claim I have no right to be bothered by, even though you said you identified with much of the third wave while I said I did not identify with any wave. In one of my posts to Steve, I provided the exact quote of your assessment of the list, including your objection to identifying men and not women.

The point of the list was about misogyny. Yes, women certainly do engage in misogyny. Women engage in all of the points on the list above, including rape apology and some have even helped their male partners commit rape. However, I think it unproductive to target other women. Unlike you, I identify capital and patriarchy as the primary problems, not the existence of other women on the planet who dare to disagree with me. The fact is the prevailing idea among men on this site is to belittle women who do not see porn and prostitution as the highest form of liberty. But naturally what the dominant behavior is toward women doesn't concern you. Instead, what matters is that you claim someone insulted you at some point by saying you weren't a feminist. You seem to see the greatest form of oppression as coming from feminists who dare to disagree with you, demonstrated by the fact you seldom if ever mention sexism outside of attacking other women. While I don't succeed nearly as much as I would like, I try to avoid such pettiness, which is why I avoid conversations with you. Imagine if Gillard had stood in parliament and went on and on about how the other feminists she knew were responsible for misogyny and exploitation of women. She did not, since her goal is not to undermine women. You approach the issue entirely differently, which I find troubling.

That you think it appropriate to shame women's sexuality by calling them prudes only highlights your refusal to treat other women with the respect you demand for yourself. Calling women prudes is precisely the same as slut shaming and it serves to reinforce the notion that if women don't conform to men's desires their sexuality is deviant. I will link to a post I wrote about this early rather than repeating the same ideas. http://www.democraticunderground.com/125544521

Respecting women requires not shaming them for their sexuality or invoking sexual shaming as a way to punish them for raising issues, like human trafficking and child rape, that you resent having brought up. Because in point in fact that is what prompts women to be called prudes around here, it is the fact they care about broader social issues rather than expressing blind devote to the gods of free market capitalism. You aren't interested in hearing about entire populations of sex workers killed, about the enslaved, or children preyed upon and raped. You find their lives inconvenient to your neoliberal theories about "choice." To denounce those of us who do care about the poor, enslaved, and disenfranchised as prudes is incredibly insulting. That you do so while insisting misogyny is defined by what you claim some random feminist said to you shows the double-standard that you so often engaged in. You have gone further by shaming women's sexuality as a means of delegitimizing speech. But even if those women prefer to avoid sex, what business is that of yours? What makes you think you have a right to condemn other women's sexuality? The whole conception of prude defines women according to their sexual availability to men. The fact is a number of feminists are lesbians and have no sex with men whatsoever. That is their right, and to shame them for that is deplorable.

No one with a functioning brain stem would imagine all feminists or any other group of people agree on anything. So you go ahead and affirm a man's right to determine public discourse on feminism and silence speech he disagrees with. Frankly, given your track record I expect nothing else. I would never presume to declare you aren't a feminist, but I will say I find it difficult to understand an approach to feminism that targets women as the source of misogyny. While I agree women behave misogynistically, by for example shaming women's sexuality, the ultimate cause of that misogyny is patriarchy. You are entitled to your views, just as I am entitled to tell you that I find them destructive toward not only women's rights but human rights and equality more broadly.

It's quite clear we have radically different world views about feminism and capitalism. While you relish intra-feminist squabbles, I prefer to avoid them. I think they present a counterproductive view of women. For that purpose I request you leave me in peace.
A Jury voted 4-3 to hide this post on Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:55 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.


OMG! Violet! another

BainsBane This message was hidden by Jury decision. Hide
7. Finally, something really important

more than a SCOTUS decision allowing discrimination against women in healthcare.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5204896
All four versions of the now self-deleted OP are here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025204896#post108
A Jury voted 4-3 to hide this post on Tue Jul 8, 2014, 12:44 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.


Violet. I know you are a GD host. So those mild statements by BainsBane are okay to you to call out and hide? Are you serious!?

Bains made some light posts that were hidden. You seem okay with that. Yes the mild hides seem to be alert stalking.

Question for you and I would appreciate an answer. Are the OPS that call out the President of the United States a POS okay with you? Why did GD hosts not lock that thread?

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
69. Um, you didn't answer my question and the nasty attack on me was the third one...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 02:14 AM
Sep 2014

I'm not a GD host, btw, and GD hosts have nothing to do with alerted posts in a thread. And yes, of course I'm very okay with that attack on me being hidden. Why do you think telling me that I resent discussions of human trafficking and child rape appearing on DU is okay? It's not, and it's not the slightest bit mild as far as posts that deserve to be hidden go. Not to mention that everything else that was said to me in that post about what I think and feel was 110% incorrect, but that wasn't the reason I alerted on that post, and that's not the reason it was rightfully hidden. I don't care if you want to call me an alert stalker for daring to alert on a nasty attack like that. I've been called far worse in the past...

btw, that first post you linked to. I've seen plenty of posts hidden by juries for going to another thread and complaining about a hidden post. I kind of suspect that a sure-fire way to get a post hidden is to do exactly that, so I'm not seeing how that hide was a great travesty of justice either, though I don't have the strong feeling about it like I do for the hidden post where I was attacked.

So, I'll try asking again. Are you telling DUers they shouldn't alert on any posts from a few DUers, and that juries shouldn't vote to hide them? Even though everyone else at DU has to abide by the community standards and take responsibility for how they post?

I don't know what thread yr talking about when it comes to that last bit of yr post. Sorry....

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
79. You are the only woman to seek out my thread
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:44 AM
Sep 2014

praising not just the women of DU, but all women.

We are one and we are so very strong and you came here to dump on my thread. That sure as hell says a lot about you Violet.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
88. It doesn't take any seeking when it was the top of the page...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:22 AM
Sep 2014

And how exactly is it dumping on yr thread when all I did was disagree with you when you decide that it's 'alert stalking' for me to alert on a nasty attack on myself if it's from a woman you approve of? What exactly does that say about me? I'll tell you what it says. That if anyone is going to throw round accusations of alert stalking, they want to be real sure they know what they're talking about before they do it. Because at least two of those hides weren't alert-stalking, which does seem in the way yr using it to mean 'I don't like that these posts got hidden, therefore it's alert-stalking'. If yr still unsure why mine wasn't alert stalking, here's why. I'd alert on anyone at DU who said something that ugly to me.

Yr upset because you think yr thread is merely praising the women of DU? I'm sorry, but maybe you didn't notice that while yr praising the women of DU (strange how that praise turned to nastiness once I disagreed with you on something), you did pepper the thread liberally with complaining about alert-stalking and supposed 'silencing' of a few DUers. Here's the post I replied to that was solely on that topic http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5565142


Just in case you've forgotten and are confused why after what I described to you (thanks for the understanding, btw!) I decided to say something, here's a reminder:

From the OP:


"This is for seabeyond and bainesbane who seem to be IMHO alert stalked here. And for the loss of redqueen, you too Whisp. Stop silencing our voices. There is no need to talk over us. There is no need to shut us up or shut us down. Our voices and our goals are for our future, our childrens future. Why are you so afraid of us?"


A bit further down the thread:

"Women on DU are being silenced. Why is that? Why do we frightened some men so?

sea baines redqueen, love you. "


But, wait. There's more:

"Stop silencing women! We have a voice. We matter.

I ask you to stop with the alert stalking. Yes it is happpening and women are being silenced on a Democratic board"


And still more:

"Alert stalking on DU! Really? Have we sadly become the RW party that tells a woman what she can say and do? DU, I am ashamed of you. "


If being part of this 'we are one' means I'm supposed to sit there and cop abuse at DU, count me out...

Dumping on this thread would have been saying how much Helen Reddy sucked and how I was too young at the time to understand what the words bland and insipid meant, but I thank Helen Reddy for teaching me. So I won't do that. Instead I'll finish up with some Kim Deal, the coolest female musician ever. I'd love to be half as cool as Kim Deal *sigh*



Have a lovely day...





sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
137. This for all the women in my life.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 03:06 AM
Sep 2014

For the ones I adore. For their Strength Humanity Beauty Grace and Compassion.

This for all the beautiful wonderful men that take our backs every damn day. Dayum there are so many here Violet! Sadly you don't know them.

It was suggested to me that I let this go....however this is my parting gift to you.

is






LOL~ Helen ready sucks~ snort got it, VC.

Wow just wow that you said that!

Dumping on this thread would have been saying how much Helen Reddy sucked and how I was too young at the time to understand what the words bland and insipid meant, but I thank Helen Reddy for teaching me. So I won't do that. Instead I'll finish up with some Kim Deal, the coolest female musician ever. I'd love to be half as cool as Kim Deal *sigh*




here ya go~ for us bland and insipid women that mean crap to you.

You were to young to know the women that built what you are standing on today. Wow that's sad Violet as you too are a woman.

Do you happen to know any of these women?

Women's Rights Movement in the U.S.

Timeline of Key Events in the American Women's Rights Movement
1848–1920
by Ann-Marie Imbornoni

Discover the key events of the women's rights movement in the United States. This timeline covers the years of 1848 to 1920, which includes the famed women's rights convention in Seneca Falls, N.Y., the formation of the National American Woman Suffrage Association, and the passage of the nineteenth amendment to the Constitution, giving women the right to vote.

1848–1899 • 1900–1920 • 1921–1979 • 1980–Present

1848
The first women's rights convention is held in Seneca Falls, New York. After 2 days of discussion and debate, 68 women and 32 men sign a Declaration of Sentiments, which outlines grievances and sets the agenda for the women's rights movement. A set of 12 resolutions is adopted calling for equal treatment of women and men under the law and voting rights for women.

1850
The first National Women's Rights Convention takes place in Worcester, Mass., attracting more than 1,000 participants. National conventions are held yearly (except for 1857) through 1860.

Top
1869
May
Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton form the National Woman Suffrage Association. The primary goal of the organization is to achieve voting rights for women by means of a Congressional amendment to the Constitution.





Read more: Women's Rights Movement in the U.S.: Timeline of Events (1848-1920) | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womenstimeline1.html#ixzz3E7OWtNqX

Or were they to bland and insipid for you as well.





Some of us have been on the floor I am talking beaten onto the floor, have you? I have. We got knocked down there but we got back up again and again, if you have then it is so very sad that you are amused by this song.



Have a great life Violet~ we are done.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
140. This is for all the feminists who I admire and respect...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:12 AM
Sep 2014

And for the woman who's always been closest to me, who was raped by a stranger as a child and grew up to be the strongest woman I know. Feminism is about equality and strength, and fighting to keep and improve the gains that have been made since the days of my mother and grandmother. At least that's what feminism means to me...

I hope that what's happened is solely a communication breakdown (actually that's one of the few songs from the 70's I like). I'll offer this post in that spirit and you can do with it as you will...



"This for all the beautiful wonderful men that take our backs every damn day. Dayum there are so many here Violet! Sadly you don't know them."


There's some good blokes at DU. Having been here since pretty much the start, I know pretty much all long-term DUers, so I think yr wrong on that one...


here ya go~ for us bland and insipid women that mean crap to you.


I never said women were bland and insipid and meant crap to me. I recall saying that Helen Reddy's music was bland and insipid, which being on a par with Olivia Newton John and the early Bee Gees, it was. Having an aversion to mainstream early 70's music doesn't turn me into someone who thinks women are bland and insipid.

You were to young to know the women that built what you are standing on today. Wow that's sad Violet as you too are a woman.


Well, the problem there is you've copied and pasted a timeline of the American women's rights movement. I'm not an American. I live in a country where we have our own history, was one of the first countries to get the vote, and have already had a female Prime Minister. So, this is what I'm familiar with.

31 October 1827
First Female Workers Riot
First Female Workers Riot occured at the Parramatta Female Factory over conditions and food deprivation.

1884
First Australian Suffrage Society
Henrietta Dugdale and Annie Lowe formed the Victorian Women’s Suffrage Society

20 July 1888
Organising women’s suffrage in South Australia
Women’s Suffrage League formed in South Australia

21 March 1895
Votes for women in South Australia
The proclamation of South Australia’s Suffrage Act, assented to by Queen Victoria on 2 February, gave women an equal right with men to vote, and to stand for election to the Colony’s House of Assembly.

Women with property could also vote in Legislative Council elections, but women could not stand for the upper House of the parliament until 1959.

15 May 1900
Women win the vote in Western Australia
West Australian women win the vote in WA elections with Queen Victoria’s assent to the Bill passed by the WA parliament on 15 December 1899

9 July 1900
Australian Constitution
Queen Victoria’s Assent enacts the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution

12 June 1902
Federal suffrage
Commonwealth Franchise Act grants right to vote and stand for election for the Australian parliament to women on the same basis as men, with Aboriginal people in some States still without this right

16 December 1903
First Australian women stand for federal parliament elections
Vida Goldstein, Nellie Martel, and Mary Ann Moore Bentley stand for the Senate, and Selina Siggins for the seat of Dalley in the House of Representatives

29 February 1904
Votes for women in Tasmania
Tasmanian women won an equal right with men to vote in elections for the House of Assembly. Women with property were eligible to vote for the Legislative Council and from 29 October 1920 those who served in the 1914-18 war were also eligible to vote for the upper House. An equal right to stand for election to both Houses was won two years later.

23 October 1907
Australian Exhibition of Women’s Work opens
Opening of the Australian Exhibition of Women’s Work in Melbourne by Lady Northcote, with Pattie Deakin running a model creche during the five-week exhibition showcasing the work of musicians, artists and craftswomen

31 March 1909
Votes for women in Victoria
Women in Victoria won an equal right with men to vote in State elections. Only women who met the propery qualification could vote in Legislative Council elections. Victorian women won an equal right o stand for election to both Houses of their State parliament in 1924.

12 March 1921
First woman elected to an Australian parliament
Edith Cowan (Nationalist, West Perth) became the first woman to be elected to an Australian parliament. She served in the Western Australian Legislative Assembly until 22 March 1924.

12 August 1921
Australian Federation of Women Voters
Bessie Rischbieth founded this federated body of Australian women’s political associations as a national group to liaise with international feminist organisations and establish credentials as lobbyists and advisers at the League of Nations.

An immediate success of the AFWV was lobbying prime minister Billy Hughes to have a woman included on Australia’s delegations to the annual League of Nations General Assembly. From 1922 Australia was one of the few member nations to comply with the equailty provision in the covenant of the League in including a woman on each official delegation.

26 August 1925
First woman member speaks in the NSW Parliament
Millicent Preston-Stanley, elected to the NSW Legislative Assembly in May 1925, delivered her first speech two weeks after the opening of the parliament.

23 September 1943
First women elected to the federal parliament
Dame Enid Lyons becomes a member of the House of Representatives for the United Australia Party, and the Australian Labor Party’s Dorothy Tangney takes a seat in the Senate representing West Australia

1966
SA Council of Aboriginal Women
Founded by Gladys Elphick, a Kaurna descendant

1969
Zelda D’Aprano
In 1969, Zelda D’Aprano chained herslef to the Commonweath Building in Melbourne. 35 years later (2004) she was awarded the Officer of the Order of Australia in recognition of her campaigning on women’s workplace issues.

19 June 1969
Equal Pay
After decades of campaigning, Australian women workers win equal pay rates with men doing comparable work under an Arbitration Commission decision for incremental increases, with pay parity eventually achieved in 1972

February 1972
WEL
The Women’s Electoral Lobby (WEL) began in Feb 1972 when 10 women met in a femisnists home to disuss ways of playing a more influential role in the election planned for December that year.

31 August 1975
Australia celebrates International Women’s Day
The Australian Government held the first national conference from 31 August to 6 September in1975 on the status of women (Women and Politics) and committed Australia to celebrating International Women’s Day with other member nations of the United Nations.

The conference generated a great deal of debate in Australia. Some conference delegates invaded the offices of the Canberra Times to protest about the coverage of the conference.

25 April 1981
ANZAC Day. Women arrested while marching to remember women raped in war.
In the early ’80s, a number of Australian women attempted to join official ANZAC Day marches because they wanted to commemorate all women who had been raped in wars.

In 1980, fourteen women who tried to do this in Canberra were arrested. The following year, again in Canberra, around 250 women attempted to join the tail of the official ANZAC Day march but were stopped by police and directed not to march. The police were acting under a Section 23A of the Traffic Ordinance, a section that had only been gazetted the day before the march. As a result about 64 people, mainly women, were arrrested and charged with failing to obey the police directive.

The special legislation, march and arrests that took place aroundthat Anzac Day in 1981 gave rise to a great deal of debate in the Canberra Times.

1983
Australia becomes CEDAW signatory
Australia becomes a signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW).

1 July 1989
National Foundation for Australian Women launched
The official launch of the National Foundation for Australian Women was at the National Press Club in Canberra on 1 July 1989. A series of mini-launches in all states and territories were held in the following six months.

8 March 2000
Women’s History Month 2000 launched
Hon. Margaret Reid, Senator for the ACT and President of the Senate, launched Women’s History Month in Parliament House Canberra.

12 February 2002
Women’s History Month 2002 launched

http://womenshistory.net.au/timeline/

Some of us have been on the floor I am talking beaten onto the floor, have you? I have. We got knocked down there but we got back up again and again, if you have then it is so very sad that you are amused by this song.


I have, but I'm not seeing why every woman who's ever been knocked down to the floor MUST like Helen Reddy. Women have different taste in music, and Helen Reddy and music from that era doesn't do it for me. I'm more from the Madonna era, and it's a shame you said we're done, as not only will you miss learning about the Australian women's movement, but yr about to miss out on some music that I guess speaks to me as a woman and a feminist, even though Madonna's been a bit patchy throughout her career and probably as mainstream as I get....





You have a wonderful life as well, sheshe. I'm always here if yr ever in the mood to learn about the Australian women's movement or get some good musical tips


















 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
142. thanks for the helen, as i read and listened at the same time. another time. not comparable. nt
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:27 PM
Sep 2014

Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #88)

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
60. I'll set aside my gender loyalties and my complaints about relationship heartaches
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:09 AM
Sep 2014

and disappointments.

You are our greatest hope.

I support and welcome you all.

Nina Simone - Powerful- I Wish I knew How It Feels To Be Free -

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
111. Me and you both!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:06 PM
Sep 2014

Eleanor was an inspiration. I keep this on my desktop

Eleanor Roosevelt wrote:
Many people will walk in and out of your life,
But only true friends will leave footprints in your heart.
To handle yourself, use your head;
To handle others, use your heart.
Anger is only one letter short of danger.
If someone betrays you once, it is his fault;
If he betrays you twice, it is your fault.
Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.
He who loses money, loses much;
He who loses a friend, loses much more;
He who loses faith, loses all
Beautiful young people are accidents of nature,
But beautiful old people are works of art.
Learn from the mistakes of others.
You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Friends, you and me....
You brought another friend....
And then there were 3....
We started our group....
Our circle of friends....
And then like a circle
There is no beginning or end....
Yesterday is history.
Tomorrow is mystery.
Today is a gift.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
76. What an Inspiring OP, she! Mahalo!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:08 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:34 AM - Edit history (1)

Beautiful Graphic to go with Anaïs Nin's timeless quote~

Edit: Change "and" to "an".. ooops!

Cha

(297,196 posts)
82. Just thought I add a beautiful pic to your photo-journal essay about the strength of Women, she~
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:09 AM
Sep 2014


Response to Cha (Reply #82)

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
87. Kicking ...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:21 AM
Sep 2014

I am kicking because for once I want to see women in first place!

We deserve that right. We have fought for it for so many damn years. Just once will DU let us be #1!

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
90. Excellent thread dedicated to the women of DU, sheshe2.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 05:33 AM
Sep 2014

All of the DU members you mentioned, among many others, are great to read and interact with here at DU.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
93. What a
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:58 AM
Sep 2014

great way to start my day.

I’ve learned that you shouldn’t go through life with a catcher’s mitt on both hands; you need to be able to throw something back. – Maya Angelou.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
96. i often visualize.... mitt on one hand. the incoming. catch, throw, catch throw. the quicker
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:50 AM
Sep 2014

the incoming the more fluid and adept i am at catching to the point of not even having to look, just reach hand out. kinda like the matrix and the bullet thing. just stay loose.

it was a lovely way to start the morning.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
94. what an awesomely inspiring, well put together OP. and ... i started with the song, as i read thru
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:37 AM
Sep 2014

your OP.

your words, with music.

then read thru the replies. just one hiccup of discontent, to such an uplifting thread. why? oh why?, lol.



this is such a beautiful OP. we are always fluid in progression.

William769

(55,146 posts)
100. My dear sheshe, what a beautiful & great OP.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:19 AM
Sep 2014

I should stop there but after reading some posts in this thread I am duty bound as a compassionate person to say the following. Yes I believe alert stalking happens and yes I believe the people that you mentioned were alert stalked (yes i believe there is a small contingent on DU that do that to a certain Group). I find absolutely nothing wrong with your OP and it just boggles they mind why anyone would (except the people well you know...).

At this point so, I myself am not alert stalked again (and yes I have seen the jury results from not to long ago that proves it was alert stalking and not against community standards because of the o-6, o-7 leaves results). I leave you with the following

Some people are just gonna hate, thats all there is to it, they will use evey excuse in the world and justify it to no end on why they are doing it, but that still doesn't make it right.

So please take my advice when I say this, the ignore feature is your friend (that is if you cannot let a outrageous post get by after seeing it. Do not, I repeat, do not give them a stage to act out on. Take away their stage and you take away their ability to essentially bully.

I have plenty more to say on the subject but will stop here.

I will leave you with this thought. never give up the fight for standing up for women everywhere. That my friend is a fight worth defending.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
107. thank you, william. cause that is what i am thinking, but i dont know. so say it....
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:48 PM
Sep 2014

hey... all well? better? good?

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
108. I am kicking again......
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:59 PM
Sep 2014

because it has taken exceptional courage and strength for women to overcome the oppression and abuse.

Throughout history women have suffered the consequences wrought by violent societies and male dominance. Entire races of people have been created from systematic rape. We are the spoils of war.

Women are still frequently called the "weaker sex" and the label is considered acceptable even by many women. No matter how it is explained the statement is men are superior. Putting aside the fact not all men are physically stronger than all women, technological advances minimize the need for brute strength for survival. Plus, "weaker" isn't limited to physical strength. Women are not weaker minded. Women are not weak in their endurance of pain. Could those strong men persevered such as women have.

Just in my life time I have seen progressions which are really astounding.
-When I was young girls were required to wear dresses to school.
-Women were not able to obtain credit in their own names
-I was asked to provide my husband's permission for having a chain link fence built
-Offices were furnished with "secretary" chairs for the women.
-Discussing women's' breast size or just about anything else was normal part of the office talk.
-I was the only woman in most of my technical classes at the University I went.
-I was told by neighbors I shouldn't be allowed to own property. I was taking opportunity away from men.
-When my house burned down and the volunteer fire department illegally charged me. I was told well you are single, it's not like we are taking milk out of babies mouths.

The OP is fabulous. I wish it could be displayed on freeway billboards. Seen by young girls everywhere. It is our future.

There are many women who are unable to see the importance of this message. I understand, having been very ostrich like in my time, but it only means we must say it louder.

MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
109. Giving a kick while I am here.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:04 PM
Sep 2014

How many people do we have to be in a lifetime just to get through relatively unscathed? How many games do we have to learn to play well?

We just want to be who we are. No games. No needing to appease the person who wants their finger on the top of your head (or elsewhere). We just want to be, not a model of something else. We want to be ourselves and be respected for that. Is that really so difficult? Apparently.

When you stop playing the games you pay dearly outwardly but inwardly you grow in ways you never even considered you were allowed to grow. Then you are.

This was my poorly written explanation of something I was told long long ago. It took me years to figure it out. It is still difficult because everything is set up for you to fail at that one simple thing, being yourself.

Spazito

(50,327 posts)
110. Beautiful OP!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:41 PM
Sep 2014

Wonderful responses as well, with a few exceptions, very few thank goodness.

Thanks for posting this, it is very uplifting at a time when we could sure use uplifting.

Spazito

(50,327 posts)
113. There are those who seem to relish disrupting threads like this...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 05:15 PM
Sep 2014

uplifting threads for women seem to set a few posters' teeth on edge. That's rather sad as well as frustrating.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
124. there's so much I didn't know about her
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:20 PM
Sep 2014

not just the causes she fought for, but her struggles

"they" don't teach this stuff in school; what a shame







napkinz

(17,199 posts)
132. I'm sure it will be repeated ... check your local listings
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:50 PM
Sep 2014
http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-roosevelts/

edit: you can watch it online; below is the finale (Eleanor Roosevelt 1944 - 1962)

http://video.pbs.org/video/2365313183

Frail and failing but determined to see the war through to victory, FDR wins re-election and begins planning for a peaceful postwar world, but a cerebral hemorrhage kills him at 63. After her husband’s death, Eleanor Roosevelt proves herself a shrewd politician and a skilled negotiator in her own right, as well as a champion of civil rights, civil liberties and the United Nations.





sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
133. It will be on until 9/28, on PBS here.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 07:45 PM
Sep 2014

I will catch that on my next day off. Thank you for the links, napkinz.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
141. XOXOXO, back atcha, sheshe2!
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:51 PM
Sep 2014

You remind me sort of like Joan Jett.
But, I guess that's better than Joan of Arc, since she got burned at the stake and all.

You are my hero, you know that, don't you?
Well, now you do.


sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
145. Joan Jett~
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:25 PM
Sep 2014


You are the sweetest Major Hogwash. Luv ya too~

And thanks, I prefer the comparison to Joan Jett than Joan of Arc.
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
134. "The world will be saved by the western woman." -the Dalai Lama
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 07:47 PM
Sep 2014

Western because we have access to the resources needed, and woman because, well, sisterhood is powerful. (And I'm a male. )

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
136. Kicking one more time....
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:15 AM
Sep 2014

because I just love this thread. I love going back through it...each time I do I see something I missed.

AND because I just read in another thread there is only one abortion clinic in Missouri. I haven't fact checked that but I have no reason to believe it not to be true. Abortion was more available when I lived there.

Ladies we can't forget....there are an active contingent of people (mostly male) that wish to take away our choice. It is difficult to comprehend.

~One Woman~


...thank you again sheshe2!

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