IS militant with US ACCENT !!! forces captives to dig their own graves

[Rhinodawg]

Sounds like every kid I grew up with .

Cant wait for him to comeback so we can all meet him.

[NYC_SKP]

1. I have no reason to accept the veracity of this youtube video or its source.

It could be ISIS propaganda, it could be counterpropaganda, or it could just be some prankster and the youtube uploader fell for it.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjlJtwaUda9vKaVV10It9zw

What is there to back it up?

[Rhinodawg]

2. Really ?

There is nothing in the video that makes you think its legit?

The outfits?
the wool mask?
the environment?

oh, you want to see 3 dead bodies and THEN you might believe it.
ok...I will see if I can find the dead bodies for you.

You bethcha.

[NYC_SKP]

3. The building could be in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

Outfits can be had anywhere.

But what's missing in the video is any attribution to the source and even the posting account gives no indication of credentials.

Do you just believe anything that comes along on the Internet?

Come on now....

[Rhinodawg]

6. Ok...how about ISIS throwing 3 dead Syrians into a desert grave ? (warning)

WARNING: GRAPHIC !!

[roamer65]

7. Every time they say "Allah Akbar" it is a desecration of God. N/t

[Rhinodawg]

9. Teach me...Why do you say that?

nt

[NYC_SKP]

10. So posting another video from a different source somehow makes your OP youtube valid?

Hey, nobody's saying ISIS isn't evil.

I just think your youtube looks staged.

[Rhinodawg]

11. OK...I tried.

Huh ? ISIS is evil?

wow, have you drank the MSM Kool-Aid.





on edit....pure

[Oktober]

12. Not sure if serious...

Hmm

[Rhinodawg]

14. .

I think the sarcasm was obvious.

[Oktober]

27. Poe's law in action...

[NYC_SKP]

13. MSM Kool-Aid? Pot-Kettle-Black? How about just addressing reality?

.

First, I did some research since reading your post and found original material, which I won't post, because that's helping them.

So, it seems that ISIS released on Friday a longer piece and what you posted is a piece of that.

I'm not sure what your point is in posting it because you didn't really say.

Is it about the US accent? Well the US is investigating the possibility that 40 of them may have lived extensively in the US, long enough to acquire that accent, if not born and bred here.

Anyway, they are known for their slick production values.

What proof do you have that this clip from the longer video isn't just staged?

[Rhinodawg]

17. I don't have any proof.

my bad.

thx

[Fred Sanders]

4. ISIS has learned that Americans can be brainwashed using video with high production values, and

since the mass media is giving free publicity to everything they pump out, why not use them to
terrorize the folks in the land of the, cough, brave?

TV can sell fear as easily as it sells pissy beer.

Is ISIS coming to dig our graves now, ma? Make more room under the bed!

[randome]

5. Really? Are you brainwashed? Or are you more intelligent than everyone else?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The night is always young. It's never too late.[/center][/font][hr]

[Fred Sanders]

18. Yes. No. Yes.

[randome]

19. Direct answers to direct questions. Can't argue with that!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The night is always young. It's never too late.[/center][/font][hr]

[Fred Sanders]

20. .....

[NYC_SKP]

8. I'm struck by how easily people can be convinced by Internet based crap!!! No attributions.

And the video source, the posting youtube account "about" page...

....is blank.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjlJtwaUda9vKaVV10It9zw/about

They have 3 subscribers and joined on August4, 2014

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. Impressive that they managed to take the YouTube channel called simply 'News'

That could be sold on for a fair amount of money, I expect - unless YouTube prohibits people transferring ownership of channels.

[NYC_SKP]

23. Youtube doesn't do a whole lot of management, or hasn't in the past.

Unless it's changed since being purchased by Google, they care more about being caught up in music copyright infringement suits than in providing reliable content.

And the comments sections have seemed totally unmoderated, with foul racist and homophobic comments allowed to stand.

Like you, surprised that "News" wasn't already taken.

[wandy]

15. What is interesting is the videos are produce in "western" style........

By this I mean look at the difference in filming between, oh say, Monty Python and things like the Blues Brothers or Ghost Busters.....
Or something like City Homicide (Australian cop show) compared to any U.S. cop show.
Differences in camera angles, timing and so on.

What is more is they appear to aim the 'fear factor' at western culture. Something the U.S. has never understood is that cultures are different. What might unnerve someone in Kansas might not have the same effect on a person in Vietnam. Like I said, understanding the culture is something we haven't quite gotten the hang of.

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. I do admit I chuckled when Bill Maher said "United States of Pantshitters"!

[RandiFan1290]

16. Go get em!

[Rhinodawg]

21. LOL...

I have never advocated sending troops against ISIS. NEVER ONCE !!





But I just don't believe in ...

[cali]

28. Do you view everything in life in such stark black and white terms?

A real discussion might entail such thoughts as "does the President's plan have a strong chance of working or will it actually make the region more unstable and increase the ranks of radical fundamentalists taking up arms?" How about this question: "What happens if Assad is overthrown; does Syria become even more violent and devolve into an even worse civil war?"

You don't seem to be able to think beyond "go get 'em".

[Rhinodawg]

30. Those are intelligent and insightful questions.

But that's not the point of the video.

#1. There has much talk of Americans joining ISIS and this is certainly appears to be one of them. If this is a propaganda video directed at certain US groups , it may be very successful.

#2. it is estimated there are 500-1000 AMERICANS who have joined ISIS. It should give everyone pause to consider the possibility that they will be coming home.

Not "go get em", never said that...how about " stop them if they plan to come home to kill people"


hope that helps.

[99Forever]

37. Yup. Precisely.

Got some of those that bravely hang here and bang their war drums.

[cali]

24. to me, it's not whether it's real or not. I'll take it at face value.

It's that you have such a think about pushing fear. Yes, ISIS sucks. So does Boko Haram and literally dozens of other violent groups operating around the world.

It's hardly surprising that there are a few Americans within ISIS. We're a nation of over 300,000,000 people and ISIS seems to be a magnet for violent little psychopaths who can window dress their shit with religion.

This fuckwad doesn't present a danger to the U.S.- and neither does ISIS; to the stability of the region, to people in the region, yes, but who destabilized the region to begin with? And will our intervention, particularly in Syria, lead to further destabilization.

I personally find your posts on ISIS all heat and no light. You never post anything actually informative or insightful about this. Never.

[Rhinodawg]

25. OK....

I see you don't find atrocities, war crimes and beheadings informative or insightful.

I respect that.

I will try to do better.

thank you.

[cali]

26. I have nothing but contempt for the dubious art of putting words in the mouths of others

and that's what you just did.

Of course I never said anything of the sort, as you well know.

You are a fear peddler. You offer no analysis, no comment, no context. Ever.

[randys1]

29. Let's say the video is real, what new information is this?

They are soldiers of who?

Why do Americans think they are coming to USA, you must think that otherwise why the fear?

Do we all acknowledge this group ISIL wants us to put boots on the ground so they can kill Americans without having to leave town, so to speak?

[Rhinodawg]

31. Sorry.

I do consider the strong possibility that they are coming home.

if that's fear...well, I guess I'm guilty.

[marmar]

33. ...............

“It’s hard to imagine a better indication of the ability of elected officials and TV talking heads to spin the public into a panic, with claims that the nation is honeycombed with sleeper cells, that operatives are streaming across the border into Texas or that the group will soon be spraying Ebola virus on mass transit systems—all on the basis of no corroborated information,” Daniel Benjamin, a counterterrorism adviser during the first Obama Administration, told The New York Times.

Raed Jarrar of the American Friends Service Committee also argues for a more sensible approach.

“ISIS has a limited capacity, and it poses a small threat to nations within its reach in the Middle East,” he told The Progressive. “The threat it poses to the United States and Europe is even more limited. The FBI, the National Counterterrorism Center, and other experts agree there is no imminent threat to the U.S.”

- See more at: http://www.progressive.org/news/2014/09/187864/doomsday-isis-predictions-generating-bad-policy#sthash.qLZKtmH0.dCG27AvK.dpuf

[randys1]

34. You mean the americans who have joined ISIL?

How many is that do you think, 40, 400?

What are they going to do when they come back to USA?

What could they do that is so bad we should send troops over there?

[Rhinodawg]

41. Did I say send troops over there ?

Come on. Geez.

What could they do? I don't know...they seem pretty good at beheadings.

[randys1]

42. I may have responded to the wrong person

I know the place is a mess, thank you USA and most recently W cheney, etc


Maybe the answer is a NO deferment draft where the children of serving house and senate and WH are at the top of the list

[CJCRANE]

36. I'm afraid.

I'm anxious much of the time. I worry a lot. I'm afraid of all sorts of things in my life.

But I'm not scared of people half a world away.

[whatchamacallit]

35. What's your deal?

*narrows eyes*

[NYC_SKP]

38. narrow eyes!

[JHB]

39. And?

Yes, they're capital-letters Bad Men. But revulsion against the deeds of Bad Men is not policy.

Just what policy do you advocate, and how does posting this video while not saying more help achieve that policy?

[HipChick]

40. Voiceovers are easy to do too..

[Bjorn Against]

43. That voice sounds like it was electronically altered

It does not sound like an American accent to me, nor does it sound like any other sort of accent. It sounds like someone who used a computer to alter the sound of their voice to make it harder for investigators to identify them.

[Rhinodawg]

44. Interesting.

I don't have much experience in interactive voice visualization and spectral analysis.

[Bjorn Against]

45. It is extremely easy to do

In fact there is a very good chance you have the software to do it yourself, there are lots of computer programs and smart phone apps that can alter the sound of a voice and it is not uncommon for those sorts of programs to be pre-installed on many of the new computers and phones that are sold.