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edhopper

(37,317 posts)
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:25 PM Sep 2014

I was at the Climate March, at least 500,000 or more.

It started on Central Park West with over 30 blocks packed with people.
At one point it stretched from North of the Museum of Natural History to Times Square.
When half that space is full on New Years Eve they talk about millions being there.
The cops there said they thought it was at least half a million or more.
The crowds were massive, the under-reporting is shameful.
Just look at the pics, it was much bigger than they are saying.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/21/peoples-climate-march_n_5857902.html

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I was at the Climate March, at least 500,000 or more. (Original Post) edhopper Sep 2014 OP
WHY do they always lie?????? onecent Sep 2014 #1
They pay edhopper Sep 2014 #2
And their owners are stockholders in fossil fuel corparations. freshwest Sep 2014 #28
My local hate-radio station Control-Z Sep 2014 #3
what's even worse barbtries Sep 2014 #8
I'm still there, WELL over 100,000 strong. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #4
Thanks edhopper Sep 2014 #6
Holy moly! SoapBox Sep 2014 #16
I was watching MSNBC and they had a shot from the top of a building. Take the ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #53
ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FNN wear industrial strength blinders. They know what people want, dammit! freshwest Sep 2014 #30
K&R! G_j Sep 2014 #5
corporate media grrr barbtries Sep 2014 #7
Their goal is to sow confusion. RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #9
FUD works so well, why should they give it up? Segretti is still laughing. freshwest Sep 2014 #31
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #10
Agreed times a thousand. So proud of the marchers! n/t Peregrine Took Sep 2014 #11
Corporate media are climate deniers Iliyah Sep 2014 #12
K&R cprise Sep 2014 #13
Thank you for being there and also for the thread. I have never been to a big march...but I libdem4life Sep 2014 #14
The march was a couple of hours dhol82 Sep 2014 #15
Guess I thought it would be a longer time. Now I know. Thanks. libdem4life Sep 2014 #39
For the people at the back edhopper Sep 2014 #42
wow dhol82 Sep 2014 #48
Yes edhopper Sep 2014 #17
Was pretty sure there would be lots of food and drink. Just the massive libdem4life Sep 2014 #41
Lots of people came in group buses dhol82 Sep 2014 #49
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #18
Thanx edhopper Sep 2014 #19
Please describe the under-reporting... brooklynite Sep 2014 #20
They initially were reporting 100,000 edhopper Sep 2014 #22
So you're unhappy that a preliminary count while the event was happening was wrong... brooklynite Sep 2014 #29
I am glad you are happy edhopper Sep 2014 #34
ABC: New York Sees the Biggest Climate March in History brooklynite Sep 2014 #36
That's good edhopper Sep 2014 #37
CNN: Tens of thousands of people marched through Manhattan G_j Sep 2014 #38
Thanks edhopper Sep 2014 #40
So, complain about CNN...don't call out "the media" brooklynite Sep 2014 #43
When I complained edhopper Sep 2014 #44
from the Museum of NH? pangaia Sep 2014 #21
Past it edhopper Sep 2014 #23
TOO MUCH, man !!!!! pangaia Sep 2014 #24
End of designated march assembly space was at 86th street - LiberalElite Sep 2014 #54
Thank you! They are now reporting 400,000 cal04 Sep 2014 #25
That's great edhopper Sep 2014 #35
K&R Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2014 #26
Thank you!! RiverLover Sep 2014 #27
+1 freshwest Sep 2014 #32
wish I had been able to attend G_j Sep 2014 #33
K & R nt Bigmack Sep 2014 #45
I am dismayed this morning edhopper Sep 2014 #46
AMAZING! nothing on Morning Joe today...UGH... CTyankee Sep 2014 #47
Too bad they could not clean up after themselves. former9thward Sep 2014 #50
So was my friend Sunaura KamaAina Sep 2014 #51
This is why I do not think that demonstrating against wars matters any more. djean111 Sep 2014 #52

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
16. Holy moly!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:52 PM
Sep 2014

I was working all day so never heard a word...asked partner who was home all day...never heard a word.

The usual Librul Media blackout?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
53. I was watching MSNBC and they had a shot from the top of a building. Take the
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:23 PM
Sep 2014

segment that edhopper's image depicts and multiply it by many times because, from the top of that building, the street was curb-to-curb and stretched as far as the camera could see up and down the street.

This may be a shot from that vantage point looking in one direction but the other direction was the same:

?w=1536&h=864&crop=1

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
30. ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FNN wear industrial strength blinders. They know what people want, dammit!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:33 PM
Sep 2014

barbtries

(31,296 posts)
7. corporate media grrr
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:29 PM
Sep 2014
http://peoplesclimate.org/310000-strong-and-thats-not-counting-the-press-who-showed-up/

i shared this on fb so at least my friends will hopefully get a clue. the ptb are hellbent on driving this planet and all life upon it into a ditch apparently, and they own the media.

thank you for being there i wish i could have been.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
9. Their goal is to sow confusion.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:37 PM
Sep 2014

The fossil fuel industry works in much the same way as the tobacco industry.
As long as people have doubt, the status quo continues.

The corporate media's job is to sustain that doubt. That's why they can't accurately report on the number of people who have assembled to sound the alarm about climate change. It would undermine efforts to maintain that sense of doubt.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Corporate media are climate deniers
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:55 PM
Sep 2014

and they rather report (if that is what you call it) on negatives and blame bullshit on others that are not in toll with them.

What a beautiful sight.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. Thank you for being there and also for the thread. I have never been to a big march...but I
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:42 PM
Sep 2014

have often wondered...where do they go to the bathroom? Are there porta potties along the way? I know there is likely food and drink? But that many humans in such a small space...wow.

Just one of those trivia questions that cross my mind.

dhol82

(9,649 posts)
15. The march was a couple of hours
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:51 PM
Sep 2014

there were water stops along the way. at the end of the march there were theoretical portapotties. Can't say that I saw them since I did not ask.

Food trucks were available at the end of the march. Weird thing was that there were no trash bags in that area. Had to carry out my trash to the main street. Just odd.

Also - if you start out having peed and pooped how much more do you need to do in the two hours it takes to walk the circuit?

edhopper

(37,317 posts)
42. For the people at the back
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:26 PM
Sep 2014

It started around noon and we didn't start marching until 3.

edhopper

(37,317 posts)
17. Yes
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:54 PM
Sep 2014

There were porta potties along the way. Central Park also had bathrooms available.
As for food, it's New York freakin City, there's food everywhere, or people just packed a sandwhich.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
41. Was pretty sure there would be lots of food and drink. Just the massive
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:25 PM
Sep 2014

number of people.

Being from the West Coast, I thought about where everyone would park. But they have public transportation there.

Anyway, thanks.

dhol82

(9,649 posts)
49. Lots of people came in group buses
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 10:49 AM
Sep 2014

There were many groups from out of town who came in big buses.

I am local so was able to take the subway directly to the start of the march. Don't think it would have been easy to take the local bus. Traffic was, essentially, at a standstill throughout most of mid Manhattan.

My apartment overlooks Seventh Avenue on the way to the Holland Tunnel. Last evening the backup was momentous. Not sure if it was marchers or some problem in the tunnel. It was a sea of red brake lights. The organizers had requested that people not drive to the event but to use bikes, mass transit or group transport.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
20. Please describe the under-reporting...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:57 PM
Sep 2014

ABC news is reporting 300,000 which is certainly within the ballpark of your personal estimate. If you believe that there's a conspiracy to under-reportm, please provide evidence.

edhopper

(37,317 posts)
22. They initially were reporting 100,000
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:03 PM
Sep 2014

The official count know seems to be around 300,000.
The cops along the way were telling me it was more like half a million.
Like I said, look at the pics and think about 40 city blocks that crowded.
I've been there on New Years Eve, when they say over a million, there were more today.
I was also in the Iraq War March in 03, they misreported that one as well.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
29. So you're unhappy that a preliminary count while the event was happening was wrong...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:30 PM
Sep 2014

Now presumably, if the media is down-reporting the turnout, they're also disputing the reality of climate change, right?

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
36. ABC: New York Sees the Biggest Climate March in History
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:17 PM
Sep 2014

MSNBC: The largest climate march in history

Time: 400000 Converge on Manhattan to Demand Climate Change Action

Fox: New York climate march attracts more than 310000 people

CBS News: 300,000 marchers ring climate warning bell in NYC, around globe

Yeah, pretty happy.

edhopper

(37,317 posts)
37. That's good
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:21 PM
Sep 2014

Glad to see them coming around.
BTW I saw the initial reports were after the march, when I got home.
I suspect the had to amend due to the internet.

edhopper

(37,317 posts)
44. When I complained
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:31 PM
Sep 2014

They were under reporting.
Now I am saying it's good they've updated.
Do you think the media does a good job?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
21. from the Museum of NH?
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:01 PM
Sep 2014

That's like on... 79th ! to 42nd St !

YIKES?

A half a million is way under...

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
24. TOO MUCH, man !!!!!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:07 PM
Sep 2014

Past Zabars even..course that's on B'way..
:&gt )

I live in upstate NY. born NYC.....
Good on all you folks!!!!!


LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
54. End of designated march assembly space was at 86th street -
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:29 PM
Sep 2014

it was filled up to there. When the front lines of the march reached 42nd & 11th we in the back were still in the '70s. Keep in mind this wasn't a "straight line" route. First turn was at 59th then down a couple long blocks to 6th, turn onto 6th then down to 42nd and another turn. We clogged traffic good that day.

edhopper

(37,317 posts)
35. That's great
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:13 PM
Sep 2014

This is from the March organizers. Hope the media can now tell the truth.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
27. Thank you!!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:19 PM
Sep 2014

To you and everyone else who took great pains to be in NYC for this historic march. (400,000 now reported at Huffpo) Heroes!! Now lets hope it wakes people up.

edhopper

(37,317 posts)
46. I am dismayed this morning
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:19 AM
Sep 2014

but not at all surprised, by how little coverage one on the largest marches in recent years is getting.
Maybe they will report it when the streets of New York are too flooded for anyone to march.

CTyankee

(68,151 posts)
47. AMAZING! nothing on Morning Joe today...UGH...
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:24 AM
Sep 2014

god bless you, edhopper...you were there, you care...

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
51. So was my friend Sunaura
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:16 PM
Sep 2014

she's an artist: this is a self-portrait. (The other one is NSFW. )

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
52. This is why I do not think that demonstrating against wars matters any more.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:18 PM
Sep 2014

The people in charge just do not care, and they know they do not have to care.
It is not a measure of our freedom of speech that we can say anything we want on the internet, it just means they are supremely unworried, and can always kick our doors down later, if they feel like it.

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