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applegrove

(118,501 posts)
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:25 PM Sep 2014

The Islamic State Is Upset With The French Government's New Name For Them

The Islamic State Is Upset With The French Government's New Name For Them

By Kira Brekke at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/19/isis-daesh-france_n_5850280.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

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ISIS, IS, the Islamic State, ISIL -- the international community can't seem to decide what to call the Islamic extremists who have been terrorizing the Middle East, and now the French government has announced it will use yet another name for them, which is reportedly upsetting the group.

The French foreign ministry released a statement earlier this week referencing the Islamic State group as "Daesh." The new moniker is a transliteration of an acronym of the group's Arabic name "al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham. It is also similar to the arabic word that means "to trample."

France's foreign minister Laurent Fabius explained that he views the organization as "a terrorist group, not a state."

“I do not recommend using the term Islamic State because it blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims and Islamists. The Arabs call it ‘Daesh,’ and I will be calling them the ‘Daesh cutthroats,'" Fabius said, according to France 24.





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Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
10. It sounds close to (but not exactly like) "dosh" when I hear it spoken by those that speak arabic
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:09 AM
Sep 2014

a little extended perhaps with a little bit of "a" thrown into the "o", but dosh is the closest phonetically to what I hear.

Cha

(296,868 posts)
5. Good. I had read that Muslims wanted them to be called "heretics" because they did not
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:55 AM
Sep 2014

represent their faith. That and "terrorists" will do.. and this "Daesh."

Thanks applegrove~ They are marauders, tramplers, and bringers of death.

applegrove

(118,501 posts)
7. Their leader, alBagdadi, was an al qaeda in
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:24 AM
Sep 2014

Iraq goon that the USA had a $10 million dollar bounty on. He escaped to Syria a few years ago. This past year al qaeda fired him for not following orders. Thanks Bush. Thanks for creating the environment for such psychopaths to thrive. And thank you Cha

Cha

(296,868 posts)
8. "Thanks Bush. Thanks for creating the environment for such psychopaths to thrive." Exactly
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:30 AM
Sep 2014

what happened, apple.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
6. that's some nice bait for dissention
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:02 AM
Sep 2014

if the leaders other than Islam, agreed to live in an Islam state freedom of religion might be an issue. Why would the Muslims or anyone else not want a different name?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
9. That's what Iraqi Americans I know always called them, so, not really new, just Arabic.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:58 AM
Sep 2014

As such, I find it far more appropriate than the English nicknames we have given them, also we can't agree on a single nick/brand name to use because their name is an Arabic one (rather than a translation that we THEN attempt to decide an acronym for to be used in our war marketing strategies).

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
12. I think it's the other way round.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:57 AM
Sep 2014

The group was actually called ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham) by its followers which implies to me that it was designed to appeal to western recruits.

Daesh is just an Arabic translation of that name.

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