ISIL Uses Chlorine Gas in Attack.

[grahamhgreen]

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http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/urgent-isis-kills-300-iraqi-soldiers-chlorine-gas-attack-saqlawiyah/

(IraqiNews.com) On Monday several Members of Parliament from Diwaniyah Province confirmed that ISIS killed over 300 soldiers using chlorine gas for the first time in Saqlawiyah, north of Fallujah.

Islamic Dawa party MP Ali al-Badri said, at a press conference at the parliament building in the presence of a number of deputies of Diwaniyah province and attended by IraqiNews.com that “the terrorist organization ISIS used chlorine gas for the first time in the region of Saqlawiyah after trapping more than 400 troops, resulting in the deaths of many of them due to suffocation while the terrorist gangs detonated car bombs within the brigade headquarters.”

Badri said, “We hold the full responsibility for the fate of the trapped soldiers to the Commanding General of the Armed Forces, Haider Abadi, and the security leaders, especially the Anbar Operations Chief, Lt. Gen. Rashid Flaih, because of the slow measures taken by the Air Force despite frequent appeals for rapid procedures to rescue the soldiers since several days ago.”

Badri added that the “Saqlawiyah crime is considered as the second Speicher Massacre,” stressing that “300 soldiers were killed in the attack.”
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Guess this lends credence to the reports that it was the insurgents and not Assad who used chemical weapons in Syria.

EDIT: Point is, we don't know what's happening over there. Was it Assad using chemical weapons? or ISIL? Or the 'moderate' opposition? Who are the barbarians at the gate? The people's whose 'patriots' torture? The guys who use white phosphorus and depleted uranium? The country that beheads dozens every month? We are trapped in a cycle of violence.

FURTHER: Obama almost attacked Assad over the use of chemical weapons (still in dispute). We then armed the rebels to fight Assad. These rebels then turned into ISL, with the help of the Iraqi military that we trained. We are now going to arm a different set of these rebels to fight ISIL and Assad, in the hopes that will will be well in the end. It will not be. The solution is to force a coalition of SA, Assad, Iran, Israel, et al, it will be good for them.

In my view, we are one of the major problems, not the solution in the Middle East.

[cali]

1. I don't see how that lends any credence to the reports that it was the insurgents

who used chemical weapons in Syria. Juan Cole thought that claim was ridiculous and wrote about why at the time.

[grahamhgreen]

7. UN accuses Syrian rebels of chemical weapons use:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10039672/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-of-chemical-weapons-use.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22424188


It lends credence in that if this current report is true, and the rebels (ISIL) used gas in their recent attack, it would show that they have the will to use WMD, as well as the means.

Assad, OTOH, willingly gave up his chemical weapons.

That's how I see it anyway.

[FSogol]

2. Look at that leap!

[grahamhgreen]

8. What leap?

[FSogol]

9. A clue: It starts with, "Guess this lends credence..."

[grahamhgreen]

10. See #7 above

[librechik]

3. can we agree that this ragtag group ISIL are monsters and not freedom fighters?

lol, dream on. Modern politics is all about fog mirrors and cash.

[TwilightGardener]

4. Sarin and chlorine gas are two very different things.

Chlorine gas can be just bleach and ammonia in your toilet bowl.

[Maedhros]

5. Are we sure this isn't another false flag operation

like the August 2013 sarin attack?

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

As intercepts and other data related to the 21 August attacks were gathered, the intelligence community saw evidence to support its suspicions. ‘We now know it was a covert action planned by Erdoğan’s people to push Obama over the red line,’ the former intelligence official said. ‘They had to escalate to a gas attack in or near Damascus when the UN inspectors’ – who arrived in Damascus on 18 August to investigate the earlier use of gas – ‘were there. The deal was to do something spectacular. Our senior military officers have been told by the DIA and other intelligence assets that the sarin was supplied through Turkey – that it could only have gotten there with Turkish support. The Turks also provided the training in producing the sarin and handling it.’ Much of the support for that assessment came from the Turks themselves, via intercepted conversations in the immediate aftermath of the attack. ‘Principal evidence came from the Turkish post-attack joy and back-slapping in numerous intercepts. Operations are always so super-secret in the planning but that all flies out the window when it comes to crowing afterwards. There is no greater vulnerability than in the perpetrators claiming credit for success.’ Erdoğan’s problems in Syria would soon be over: ‘Off goes the gas and Obama will say red line and America is going to attack Syria, or at least that was the idea. But it did not work out that way.’

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/04/06/who-was-behind-the-syrian-sarin-false-flag-attack/

What did the President know – and when did he know it? Hersh says "The post-attack intelligence on Turkey did not make its way to the White House" – except when Obama was confronted by the joint chiefs with the British report. "‘Nobody wants to talk about all this,’ the former intelligence official told [Hersh]":

"‘There is great reluctance to contradict the president, although no all-source intelligence community analysis supported his leap to convict. There has not been one single piece of additional evidence of Syrian involvement in the sarin attack produced by the White House since the bombing raid was called off. My government can’t say anything because we have acted so irresponsibly. And since we blamed Assad, we can’t go back and blame Erdoğan.’”

The President didn’t care about the facts in the first place, and his knowledge of the truth didn’t lead him to change course. If not for the public outcry against US intervention he would’ve gone ahead with it as long as he thought he could get away with it.

Allegations of ISIL chlorine gas attacks seem convenient.

[TwilightGardener]

6. You have no evidence that the 2013 attack was false flag.

Hersh's reporting isn't definitive.

[leftstreet]

11. So...those airstrikes didnt work, eh?