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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:41 PM Sep 2014

The Unusual Language That Linguists Thought Couldn’t Exist

http://nautil.us/blog/the-unusual-language-that-linguists-thought-couldnt-exist

Languages, like human bodies, come in a variety of shapes—but only to a point. Just as people don’t sprout multiple heads, languages tend to veer away from certain forms that might spring from an imaginative mind. For example, one core property of human languages is known as duality of patterning: meaningful linguistic units (such as words) break down into smaller meaningless units (sounds), so that the words sap, pass, and asp involve different combinations of the same sounds, even though their meanings are completely unrelated.

It’s not hard to imagine that things could have been otherwise. In principle, we could have a language in which sounds relate holistically to their meanings—a high-pitched yowl might mean “finger,” a guttural purr might mean “dark,” a yodel might mean “broccoli,” and so on. But there are stark advantages to duality of patterning. Try inventing a lexicon of tens of thousands of distinct noises, all of which are easily distinguished, and you will probably find yourself wishing you could simply re-use a few snippets of sound in varying arrangements....

What to make, then, of the recent discovery of a language whose words are not made from smaller, meaningless units? Al-Sayyid Bedouin Sign Language (ABSL) is a new sign language emerging in a village with high rates of inherited deafness in Israel’s Negev Desert. According to a report led by Wendy Sandler of the University of Haifa, words in this language correspond to holistic gestures, much like the imaginary sound-based language described above, even though ABSL has a sizable vocabulary.

To linguists, this is akin to finding a planet on which matter is made up of molecules that don’t decompose into atoms. ABSL contrasts sharply with other sign languages like American Sign Language (ASL), which creates words by re-combining a small collection of gestural elements such as hand shapes, movements, and hand positions.
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The Unusual Language That Linguists Thought Couldn’t Exist (Original Post) KamaAina Sep 2014 OP
Ignoring Native American sign language,.....yet again. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #1
Slightly different -- PISL was essentially a pidgin signed version of spoken words, rather than an Brickbat Sep 2014 #3
I guess I should have said "Indian" sign language.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #4
Not enough information. Igel Sep 2014 #2
There was a documentary about some Argentian deaf people who did this years ago (nt) Recursion Sep 2014 #5

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
3. Slightly different -- PISL was essentially a pidgin signed version of spoken words, rather than an
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:27 PM
Sep 2014

actual language made for deaf people.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. I guess I should have said "Indian" sign language....
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:07 AM
Sep 2014

Specifically the Plains Indians.

It truly is a thing of beauty.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
2. Not enough information.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:12 PM
Sep 2014

ASL at one point had gestures that weren't yet subdivided into phonemes, and instead of having a grammar was a pidgin.

U. Rochester folk have examined some of the history of sign languages, including the emergence of an SL from a sign system in, IIRC, Nicaragua (Honduras?).

Has it had time to be parsed so the phonology is learned as a language? Is it primarily a gestural system to unite deaf and hearing, or just used among the deaf?

What's the grammar like? Word formation strategies like compounding? Tense and aspect? Pronominal systems?

In the struggle for relevance, a lot of linguists take marginal data and push it too far. Even worse, naive pop sci writers take speculative claims from conclusions and abstracts and exaggerate them.

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