I can't even watch all the warmongers being trotted out

[malaise]

spewing the 'homeland' narrative.


Sorry I pass - I've had enough bombings for the looting and plunder of other nations.

Cheney must be orgasmic about now.

[Cleita]

1. I agree. It's disgusting. eom

[malaise]

7. Plots plots plots

fear fear fear - have the airstrikes prevented another 9/11

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/f/f4/20100830193250!The_Scream.jpg

[arcane1]

14. That "fight 'em over there" illogic really drives me crazy.

We're expected to believe that all these sleeper agents in the U.S. are ready to carry out attacks at any moment, yet they will immediately drop everything and fly to the middle east if we start bombing over there

[warrant46]

29. The Theme song of the New War

"Courtesy Of The Red, White, And Blue (The Angry American)"

By Toby Keith


Hey Uncle Sam
Put your name at the top of his list
And the Statue of Liberty
Started shakin’ her fist
And the eagle will fly
Man, it’s gonna be hell
When you hear Mother Freedom
Start ringin’ her bell
And it feels like the whole wide world is raining down on you
Brought to you Courtesy of the Red White and Blue

Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you’ll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A.
`Cause we`ll put a boot in your ass
It`s the American way

[malaise]

35. It's ridiculous

but people are terrified and are so freaking gullible that it defies logic.

[grahamhgreen]

58. Toothpaste bombs....

[tecelote]

2. Fear.

We're sheep.

[Vattel]

3. Same tired old narrative. It is hard to stomach.

[librechik]

4. I can't believe anyone is swallowing their bilge this time around.

shows how little our opinions mean to the media.

[malaise]

12. The corporate media ignored the war protesters back in 2003

and ignored over 400,000 protesting climate change on Sunday.
They don't give a flying fuck about democracy or issues that matter to the 99%.

[Maedhros]

16. To paraphrase President Andrew Shepard from the 1995 film "The American President":

We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, Democrats and Republicans are not the least bit interested in solving it. they are interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who's to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections.

[malaise]

22. Yep

[rug]

5. The only reason Cheney is still alive is so he can watch another war.

[malaise]

13. Yes

and of course to make more money.

[valerief]

6. I won't turn the TV on to "news" channels. I use it now just for movies on Roku, it seems. nt

[malaise]

9. Even the Food channels look good about now

Waiting for Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy

[valerief]

10. Bwah! We've become the Indifferent Majority, just what the ruling class wants! nt

[malaise]

23. I'm not indifferent

I'm shell shocked at the gullibility of so many people.

[valerief]

69. That's true, you're not indifferent. I understand what you mean about shell-shocked, though.

It's amazing the lies each new generation is able to swallow.

[freshwest]

52. Apathy maintains their status quo.

Say so long to what's left of the New Deal, no one needs it. Sanders has been begging people to get out to vote this year. But they won't listen to him, he's out of style. Why should he bother to run in 2016 to help those who can't stir themselves up enough to vote when he begs them to? He's a realist, not a sacrificial lamb for the indifferent.

I kept the faith and I kept voting. Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand.

~ Billy Bragg

There is more than one issue to vote on this year. But even Rand Paul has let down his leftist fans. He's already said he'd go all out against ISIS, if he is elected President. Say good bye to women and minority rights, to college loan relief, overcoming Citizens United and doing the right thing by immigrants and saving secular government. And enjoy a Koch run future.

[2banon]

17. me too.. no cable, no sat.. just over the air and roku

Hell, I can't even listen to the radio anymore. KQED (SF NPR) for the pro-war propaganda, and KPFA to repeat what I already know. Grateful for Pandora!

[J_J_]

8. the same liars lying again on the same lying corporate media

It's unbelievable that anyone is scared by those greedy morons.

[99Forever]

66. Actually. ..

... we've got a fresh set of liars singing along.

[hifiguy]

11. Americans have to be the most gullible people on Earth.

It all coems down to Charlie Pierce's Three Principles of Idiocy:

1. Any theory is valid if it sells books, soaks up ratings or otherwise moves units;

2. Anything can be true if someone says it loudly enough;

3. Fact is that which enough people believe, Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it.

[malaise]

18. Charlie is so right

[think]

15. Everyone of them using the term "homeland" like they're reading from a script.....

[elias49]

19. It IS scripted. The whole fucking thing. Goddamn it!

I'm 62 and I've had enough. Stupid fucking greedy assholes.

[Enthusiast]

60. I'm 62 too and I agree with you 100%.

[malaise]

63. Of course it's scripted

Check out this cartoon

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025577751

[woo me with science]

70. Well paid-for scripts.

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Wall Street and Madison Avenue do war.

Don't miss this post by Octafish on selling the wars:

Shorrock has done an outstanding job reporting the truth about the war profiteers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5578283

[malaise]

20. Hitler would be proud n/t

[hifiguy]

21. It has such a nice, warm Josef Goebbels ring to it,

doesn't it?

[think]

24. It's seriously creeping me out.... /nt

[Enthusiast]

59. It is so WTF!

I cannot even believe they are saying it.

[n2doc]

25. Amazing how this happens

Just as the US was getting out of the middle east (for the most part) and considering cutting the bloated defense budget, this happens. WHat a coincidence.

[malaise]

27. It makes no sense

I want to know what's going on here.

Where is Smedley Butler when we need him?

[n2doc]

31. It makes perfect sense

Keeping the racket going. Keeping people scared and easily manipulated.

Just because Obama is president doesn't mean that everybody is on the same page. Think of JFK.

[malaise]

36. I don't know

I need to know what made Obama renege on his own position

[calimary]

41. No kidding.

Ironic and frustrating as all hell.

[CrispyQ]

26. It's disgusting.

I'm not very fired up for the mid-terms.

[malaise]

28. Sadly that is precisely what the ReTHUGs and neo-cons want

Something is wrong with this entire mess

[calimary]

46. I hope you go vote ANYWAY. Just to spite the other side. They WANT you not-fired-up.

They're COUNTING ON IT.

I hate it, too. I don't want to go through this again. I feel only slightly less horrible about it because it's not some fucking neocon or bill kristol type, or somebody needing to prove he's macho because he weaseled out of the draft awhile back, who's steering it this time. But there shouldn't even BE a "this time."

But dammit, I'm gonna get out and vote ANYWAY. Because I want to and I insist on it. Especially since I know I'm one of those voters they'd love to see staying home in some state of disgust or frustration. NOT gonna hand the bad guys an easy win, regardless!!!! Don't you do it, either!

[Eleanors38]

30. The far right has sufficient power when in charge; trouble is

They're always in charge.

The key word the FR has used to successfully sum-up liberals of any stripe: "weakness."

They look good, like they're veritable genuises, but really, they know us better than we want to know ourselves, and play the same bis repetita tune with great effect. Everytime.

We are essentially cut off and static.

[No Vested Interest]

32. Isn't that the truth! nt

[Thespian2]

33. I wonder if Stupid Dick

realizes that Osama Bin Laden is still winning while assholes like him are still losing?

[malaise]

38. Making money is winning to the war criminal of a Dick

Men like him profit from war

[calimary]

47. Welcome to DU, Thespian2!

Glad you're here! I'm assuming you mean the dick cheney? His first name, richard, shortens nicely and rather fittingly, dontchathink?

[840high]

34. We're being duped over and over and over....

[malaise]

37. Duped is the word

I've had enough.

[salib]

39. Me too.

It really is a recipe for disaster this election season, as it is a recipe for malaise.

Same ol' same ol'. Definitely a recipe for malaise.

[locks]

40. Under the front page story in the Washington Post of our new air war in Syria

was a headline for another story: "After six weeks of U.S. airstrikes ISIS has scarcely budged."

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. But..but...this time it will be different...they really will have candy and flowers for us...

and be grateful for our help...and we really, really, will leave...this time...maybe...if the conditions are right...after a few...relatively few..years...decades.

[warrant46]

45. And a Rose Petal Parade !!

EDS NOTE GRAPHIC CONTENT **Iraqis chant anti-American slogans on a bridge over the Euphrates River where charred bodies are hanging in Fallujah, west of Baghdad, Wednesday March 31 2004. Enraged Iraqis in this hotbed of anti-Americanism killed four foreigners Wednesday, including at least one U.S. national, took the charred bodies from a burning SUV, dragged them through the streets, and hung them from the bridge spanning the Euphrates River. (AP Photo

No photo its too graphic to post

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Horror-at-Fallujah-SAVAGE-ATTACK-Bodies-2772639.php (Link)

[cwydro]

43. I do not agree with you on so many occasions

But I do now.

I can't even watch the news. This is sickening.

[mckara]

44. I Agree

[bobduca]

48. many warmongers among us

voting to hide anything that might point out the current (Neo-*) propaganda assault.

[marions ghost]

49. Thank you all for your words against this

[sabrina 1]

50. Cheney IS ecstatic, but he won't be satiisfied until there is REGIME CHANGE in Syria.

It is sickening, all the more so because now we have no hope of a future without war. At least during the Bush years we had the hope of one day throwing them all out of office, gaining the WH, the House and the Senate. That was the ONLY thing that made all the bloodshed and torture and lies, bearable.

But what do we do now?

[Cleita]

51. How about we make him the ambassador to Syria?

Assad and himself can Game of Thrones each other until one wins.

[sabrina 1]

56. He makes Assad look like one of the good guys. The very first time I ever saw

Cheney I had a visceral reaction to him. He was asked if he ever worried about the people who would be killed if we went to war. He didn't hesitate before responding 'No'! It gave me chills, because right then I knew we were dealing with a psychopath. Nothing I've seen since has changed my mind.

[MrMickeysMom]

53. Winston Smith...

"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

[Generic Other]

54. Let others masturbate to war porn

I am sick to death of them all. I will curse those responsible to my dying day.

Bertolt Brecht "The God of War"

"I saw the old god of war stand in a bog between chasm and rockface.
He smelled of free beer and carbolic and showed his testicles to adolescents, for he had been rejuvenated by several professors. In a hoarse wolfish voice he declared his love for everything young. Nearby stood a pregnant woman, trembling.
And without shame he talked on and presented himself as a great one for order. And he described how everywhere he put barns in order, by emptying them.
And as one throws crumbs to sparrows, he fed poor people with crusts of bread which he had taken way from poor people.
His voice was now loud, now soft, but always hoarse.
In a loud voice he spoke of great times to come, and in a soft voice he taught the women how to cook crows and seagulls. Meanwhile his back was unquiet, and he kept looking round, as though afraid of being stabbed.
And every five minutes he assured his public that he would take up very little of their time."

[spanone]

55. fucking disgusted with it all

k&r...

[suffragette]

57. But never ending war is double plus good for the profiteers and ticks the PNAC box for

regime change in Syria.


There's an old army marching cadence that goes:
Here we go again, same old shit again, marching down the avenue, few more weeks and we'll be through…

Except it's never a few weeks and we never seem to be 'through.'

[ladjf]

61. Money and Republican votes drive their war mongering. nt

[CTyankee]

62. Jeffrey Sachs had an interesting debate with Richard Haas on Morning Joe today.

Sachs was saying we're getting ready to do the same thing that got us into all this trouble before, creating chaos. Haas said Sachs was being "naive" and Sachs said HE was.

It was great hearing a refreshing voice against this war chant on that program. Haas's argument seemed so tired...Sachs was wonderful. I'd like to hear more from him...

[malaise]

64. Sachs has certainly come a long way after

messing up the Russian and Eastern European economies.

[stevenleser]

65. Watching the pathetic and superficial logic equating this with Iraq 2003 and Vietnam is pretty bad

to watch from where I sit.

[nilesobek]

67. Its not their "Homeland,"

they stole it from the Natives. None of these guys will see combat, none of these guys will see even manual labor. Wake up the working class!

[woo me with science]

68. Beyond revolting.

The hypocrisy, the moral bankruptcy, the propaganda, the lies.

I never thought I would see my party, or my country, come to this.

[LordGlenconner]

71. So don't watch

You'll be glad you didn't.