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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:01 PM Sep 2014

Pharrell Williams On People Who Don’t Believe In God: ‘Incredibly Arrogant And Pompous’

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Popular singer and music producer Pharrell Williams recently revealed that he believes in God, asserting that it’s “incredibly arrogant” to deny the existence of a spiritual being....

“How do you see all the stars and think there’s nothing else out there?” he continued.

“It’s so incredible arrogant and pompous. It’s amazing that there are people who really believe that. It’s unbelievable.”...

“With no conversion, there’s no conviction. And with no conviction, there’s only confusion. You understand what I’m saying? If you don’t believe there is a change that is due to you then you will never, ever find it. Change won’t come and tap you on the shoulder. You have to be open for change.”


Go do a duet with Kanye or something. $#*! like this does not make me Happy.
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Pharrell Williams On People Who Don’t Believe In God: ‘Incredibly Arrogant And Pompous’ (Original Post) KamaAina Sep 2014 OP
If he wants to see arrogant and pompous he needs to look in a mirror. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #1
Exactly. He is the one being arrogant and pompous. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #27
I find it incredibly sad when people think that the way they think is the only way to think. liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #2
Incredibly arrogant and pompus? Look in the mirror, asshat. sakabatou Sep 2014 #3
it's arrogant for him to make such a judgement Enrique Sep 2014 #4
What's arrogant Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #5
Everything you stated. Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #23
wow. that's stupid. all too believably stupid. asshat. cali Sep 2014 #6
sounds like a pretty arrogant and pompous statement to me. Terra Alta Sep 2014 #7
WTF is a Pharrell Williams anyway? tularetom Sep 2014 #8
The guy who sings the song "Happy" KamaAina Sep 2014 #11
Thank you for cluing me in tularetom Sep 2014 #15
"overproduced feel good pap"? KamaAina Sep 2014 #17
Well the two terms are pretty much interchangeable IMO tularetom Sep 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Maedhros Sep 2014 #24
I'm thinking he's just another one hit wonder notadmblnd Sep 2014 #33
"It's lovely to live on a raft," wrote Huck . . . Journeyman Sep 2014 #9
I don't doubt that it feels that way to him gollygee Sep 2014 #10
Hummm, I'll take popmus for 100 dollars Alex... rustydog Sep 2014 #12
yes. exactly like that, rusty. locdlib Sep 2014 #34
When I look at the stars, I know there's intelligence out there... Tom_Foolery Sep 2014 #13
Blow it out your ass. Throd Sep 2014 #14
FPW eppur_se_muova Sep 2014 #16
who? KG Sep 2014 #18
He's musically talented, but doesn't understand Ilsa Sep 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #21
Only you! eShirl Sep 2014 #26
Some of them are arrogant about it (just like with some religious folks), Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #22
He's not saying that some, or even most, atheists are arrogant DavidDvorkin Sep 2014 #29
I don't understand what's supposed to be arrogant and pompous about not believing in god(s). eShirl Sep 2014 #25
Well, Pharrell, that is very judgemental, and i believe it was Jesus who said logosoco Sep 2014 #28
I guess that's the thing about belief . . . Ed Suspicious Sep 2014 #30
What's astonishing is that once you become some sort of celebrity we have to listen to your POV. YOHABLO Sep 2014 #31
always amazes me how people can see the awesomeness of reality and attribute it to something else. unblock Sep 2014 #32
Locking, sorry, but this topic violates the GD SoP Rhiannon12866 Sep 2014 #35

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. If he wants to see arrogant and pompous he needs to look in a mirror.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:03 PM
Sep 2014

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
27. Exactly. He is the one being arrogant and pompous.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:22 PM
Sep 2014

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. I find it incredibly sad when people think that the way they think is the only way to think.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:04 PM
Sep 2014

sakabatou

(46,199 posts)
3. Incredibly arrogant and pompus? Look in the mirror, asshat.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:05 PM
Sep 2014

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
4. it's arrogant for him to make such a judgement
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:06 PM
Sep 2014

most people these days understand that people have different beliefs. This person's chauvinism is out of the ordinary.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
5. What's arrogant
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:07 PM
Sep 2014

are people who think that there is an omnipotent supernatural creature that rules everything in a multi-billioned-galaxy universe, yet concerns itself primarily with one little species of primate on one little planet in one little galaxy and -- coincidentally -- these primates LOOK like this deity! Also, the events of the last 2,000 years on one section of this planet are the most important things that have ever happened anywhere in the universe in its multi-billion year history.

What a myopic and incredibly narcissistic view THAT is, eh Pharrell?

Dawson Leery

(19,570 posts)
23. Everything you stated.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:11 PM
Sep 2014
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. wow. that's stupid. all too believably stupid. asshat.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:07 PM
Sep 2014

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
7. sounds like a pretty arrogant and pompous statement to me.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:08 PM
Sep 2014

I personally believe in a higher power, but I have respect for people with differing views. To think your views are the only views that are right or acceptable, is what I find to be "arrogant and pompous".

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
8. WTF is a Pharrell Williams anyway?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:10 PM
Sep 2014

Admitedly I'm pretty much out of touch with pop culture, but I have no idea who he is.

He sounds charming, though.

Not smart, but charming.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. The guy who sings the song "Happy"
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:15 PM
Sep 2014

that most folks have heard about 85,000 times or so.



tularetom

(23,664 posts)
15. Thank you for cluing me in
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:38 PM
Sep 2014

I still don't know much about Mr Williams but I know I won't be delving further into his body of work.

Some cool scenes in the video but the music sounds like overproduced feel good pap.

And for the record I believe there is a creator but I don't believe he thinks of humans as anything but the latest improved model of the amoeba. A work in progress as it were.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. "overproduced feel good pap"?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:43 PM
Sep 2014

You mean "pop", right?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
20. Well the two terms are pretty much interchangeable IMO
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:55 PM
Sep 2014

Response to tularetom (Reply #20)

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
33. I'm thinking he's just another one hit wonder
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:40 PM
Sep 2014

nt

Journeyman

(15,462 posts)
9. "It's lovely to live on a raft," wrote Huck . . .
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:11 PM
Sep 2014
"We had the sky up there, all speckled with stars, and we used to lay on our backs and look up at them, and discuss about whether they was made or only just happened. Jim he allowed they was made, but I allowed they happened; I judged it would have took too long to make so many."

Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
10. I don't doubt that it feels that way to him
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:11 PM
Sep 2014

I wonder how he feels when people talk about his beliefs in a similar way to that.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
12. Hummm, I'll take popmus for 100 dollars Alex...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:21 PM
Sep 2014

Let me see, billions of years of creation or magic white-haired man in the sky who loves you! But tells you to kill your kids if they misbehave...He flooded the world because his creation did not do his bidding...but he LOVES YOU!

He let the white man kill native Americans so we could have their land. he let is kill how many millions for gold and diamond mines.
His churches say being rich and demonizing the poor and marginal people is God's will even though He allegedly said:
it will be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than Mitt Romney to get into heaven. Or something like that

locdlib

(176 posts)
34. yes. exactly like that, rusty.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:41 PM
Sep 2014

i always say the mythical and magical white-haired man in the sky is really no better than any other abuser on earth. "he" judges, beats people down, oppresses, and then if we don't bow to "his" every whim, we get to live out our lives in mayhem and turmoil and in the end "he" will send us to a "fiery lake" for all eternity for being disobedient. all this is done in the name of love (which is what most abusers tell their victims). i'm sure that with all the money pharell has made with his mediocre at best music, he feels really great that the white-haired sky daddy has truly favored him.

Tom_Foolery

(4,728 posts)
13. When I look at the stars, I know there's intelligence out there...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:27 PM
Sep 2014

But I don't believe it's a mythic being created by others to explain why life exists.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
14. Blow it out your ass.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:29 PM
Sep 2014

eppur_se_muova

(42,057 posts)
16. FPW
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:42 PM
Sep 2014

That is all.

KG

(28,797 posts)
18. who?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:45 PM
Sep 2014

Ilsa

(64,424 posts)
19. He's musically talented, but doesn't understand
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:50 PM
Sep 2014

Science or Religion. He needs to keep his unerudite opinions to himself.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

eShirl

(20,309 posts)
26. Only you!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:21 PM
Sep 2014

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
22. Some of them are arrogant about it (just like with some religious folks),
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:06 PM
Sep 2014

but obviously not all are like that. What I don't like are the people (believers and non-believers alike) who think that their own perspective is the one and only correct path, and they berate others. I'm surprised at the lack of insight that Pharrell showed here, and he might end up getting quite a bit of hate mail for this comment.

DavidDvorkin

(20,611 posts)
29. He's not saying that some, or even most, atheists are arrogant
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:24 PM
Sep 2014

He's saying atheism itself is inherently arrogant.

eShirl

(20,309 posts)
25. I don't understand what's supposed to be arrogant and pompous about not believing in god(s).
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:17 PM
Sep 2014

logosoco

(3,211 posts)
28. Well, Pharrell, that is very judgemental, and i believe it was Jesus who said
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:23 PM
Sep 2014

"Judge not". So you may not be as familiar with the book that contains the beliefs you are saying you hold.

I still enjoy your happy song. I've sung "If your happy and you know it" with enough kids to appreciate a new updated version.
You may think your talent was given by god. But I think it came from highly evolved vocal cord system and the brain to use it.

Keep up with those conversations, maybe you will learn a lot!

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
30. I guess that's the thing about belief . . .
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:26 PM
Sep 2014

It's free from doubt. I believe the sun is going to rise tomorrow morning. I think people who might disbelieve that are a bit crazy. I have no basis to believe the sun will rise tomorrow except that it's happened billions of times before. I guess we have some good scientific explanations as well but those are based upon other tenuous beliefs as well.

I can see how, to a believer, disbelief would be unconscionable.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
31. What's astonishing is that once you become some sort of celebrity we have to listen to your POV.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:32 PM
Sep 2014

Just like everyone else we have one (a POV). Talent doesn't necessarily = intelligence.

unblock

(56,219 posts)
32. always amazes me how people can see the awesomeness of reality and attribute it to something else.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:40 PM
Sep 2014

that's the basic argument, that nature is so awesome, so intricate, so wonderful, that there must be some mythical being behind it all.

to me, that's an insult to nature. to me, nature is not nearly so awesome if some omnipotent being created it. i mean, if god can create anything, then nothing is really all that impressive, is it.

to me, the very thing that's so impressive about nature is that all this stuff happens naturally, over time, through through the constant application of consistent physical laws. humans are all the more impressive when we understand that we are millions of years in the making, having evolved gradually from single celled organisms.

but if we're just the product of a magic trick by a being that could have just as well created a rather different universe, then reality is hardly impressive.

Rhiannon12866

(256,545 posts)
35. Locking, sorry, but this topic violates the GD SoP
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:41 PM
Sep 2014

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