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sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 09:16 PM Sep 2014

Hey DU. I just came by to see....

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Dear DU,

I have been reading this site for many years now. I must say it has been enlightening to say the least.

I must admit that sometimes I just lol.

I thank my supporters here. We are all working against the odds to make this world a better place. No, it has not been easy. We have a Congress that wishes America to fail. I sit alone in my office trying to make headway with executive orders, it is not enough. It never will be. We need to vote in 2014 if we want some of the change we seek. I can not do this alone. I need a functioning Congress.

I never promised unicorns and rainbows, though some believe I did. I also never said it would be easy, now did I.

Remember my words in 2008:

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America – I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there. I promise you – we as a people will get there.

There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won't agree with every decision or policy I make as President, and we know that government can't solve every problem. But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And above all, I will ask you join in the work of remaking this nation the only way it's been done in America for two-hundred and twenty-one years – block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.

What began twenty-one months ago in the depths of winter must not end on this autumn night. This victory alone is not the change we seek – it is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were. It cannot happen without you.

So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism; of service and responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves, but each other. Let us remember that if this financial crisis taught us anything, it's that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers – in this country, we rise or fall as one nation; as one people.



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6181477&page=1&singlePage=true

Thanks to all you DU folks.

God Bless you all and God Bless the United States of America


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Hey DU. I just came by to see.... (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2014 OP
DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #1
Love ya Sid~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #2
Hahaha! Perfect! Thanks, babylonsister Sep 2014 #3
He could be lurking here~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #5
K&R. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #4
Mr President, please do not widen the war going on in the Middle East. marble falls Sep 2014 #6
You do realize, I'm not the President, right? FSogol Sep 2014 #18
;) sheshe2 Sep 2014 #19
Won't happen. He is being watched like a hawk. ballyhoo Sep 2014 #25
I see what you did there. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #53
Is this some kind of justification or rationalization for expanding the war in the Middle East? rhett o rick Sep 2014 #7
It's okay when we have the ball. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #10
Exactly. Time for an accounting showing who is ballyhoo Sep 2014 #24
AMEN! n/t SylviaD Sep 2014 #103
...^ that 840high Sep 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Sep 2014 #56
Really. Sometimes my 840high Sep 2014 #85
My apologies. I posted in the wrong place. Best of luck. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #93
Bullshit!! He has been pleading for Congress to return from their 7-week vacation to authorize this. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #15
bulls eye! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #17
Yup...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #21
Yup. Your intellectual responses know no bounds. But then I would assume you would support rhett o rick Sep 2014 #59
... SidDithers Sep 2014 #60
Yup! I rest my case. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #62
What about fracking? zappaman Sep 2014 #70
Agreed it is congress that is at fault. Their duty is clear in the Constitution. jwirr Sep 2014 #34
Of course so why is the president unilaterally taking that responsibility on his own. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #57
So let me guess your point since you are so intent on yelling "Bullshit" that you forgot the rhett o rick Sep 2014 #52
When I smell bullshit, I call it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #88
Go for it. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #89
I already did. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #90
So...Congress needs to come back and rubber stamp the President's new war? Romulox Sep 2014 #97
I am glad to oblige. It's called "The War Powers Clause" rhett o rick Sep 2014 #105
We have a Congress? Really? sheshe2 Sep 2014 #27
And when they are in session what does the GOP house do Iliyah Sep 2014 #28
YES, Iliyah! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #30
Congress makes decisions, the decision not to entertain immigration reform because the House is Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #36
I have enough outrage to share with a do nothing Congress and a President rhett o rick Sep 2014 #55
You don't believe in the Constitution do you? Caretha Sep 2014 #81
Where IS Congress, rhett? Hekate Sep 2014 #49
So, what are you trying to justify? What does the Constitution say? When Congress is on rhett o rick Sep 2014 #54
Wow you have used drooling a lot here. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #67
"Without Congress' input". That's rich. Congress is -yet again- on an extended vacation. randome Sep 2014 #86
So your rationalization boils down to "It's difficult". It's difficult to operate within the Consti rhett o rick Sep 2014 #91
"...and without Congress's input?..." Uh... your argument is not with the President, my friend. calimary Sep 2014 #109
So your rationalization is that if the President doesn't like what Congress is doing or not rhett o rick Sep 2014 #110
How long do you expect to be bombing Syria? rug Sep 2014 #8
So when does the full scale invasion start? JoePhilly Sep 2014 #13
Why are you excitedly waiting. Bombs, rockets, oh my! Sad how those that opposed Bush's rhett o rick Sep 2014 #61
Awesome President madokie Sep 2014 #9
You really have his back? Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #12
I have President Obama's back! He was handed a bunch of SHIT! If Bush had not invaded Iraq Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #16
How many countries did Bush bomb compared to Obama? I'll ballyhoo Sep 2014 #20
Didn't you know how the dominoes was going to fall? Guess not if you did not know how many Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #38
I also didn't know the government would ballyhoo Sep 2014 #47
Wow. A powerful reality check woo me with science Sep 2014 #42
Occasionally one has to meet the ballyhoo Sep 2014 #48
results Go Vols Sep 2014 #64
"This is no one here's first rodeo!"... SidDithers Sep 2014 #66
I have his back as well madokie! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #22
Ditto! Iliyah Sep 2014 #26
RMoney in...that would give me nightmares! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #29
Congress (GOP) are not doing a damn thing Iliyah Sep 2014 #32
Yes! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #35
I to live a in very Blue State Iliyah Sep 2014 #39
Wait give me a second here...hmmm sheshe2 Sep 2014 #45
Apparently you promised some people a pony, though. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #14
Hehehe... SidDithers Sep 2014 #23
I looked up a word to describe this and could only come up with BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #31
I could only come up with this~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #33
On the eve of war BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #71
You! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #73
So posting funny memes makes it all better? BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #74
Wow! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #75
The US officially started airstrikes against ISIS two days ago BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #76
Thank you Caretha Sep 2014 #82
"I never promised to make 82% of the Bush tax cuts permanent" MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #37
... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #44
you crack me up Manny! BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #104
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2014 #40
You may whine and cry, we are used to hearing the whining, but did you receive the intelligence Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #41
Oh, let me K & R this thread Iliyah Sep 2014 #43
We are in a hell of a mess. None of us, including the president, want war. Yet if you watched jwirr Sep 2014 #46
. Rex Sep 2014 #50
I wish I could shake your hand, Sir. Every damn day you just do your job. Thank you. Hekate Sep 2014 #51
I had to look those up, hekate. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #58
I grew up in Kailua, where the Obamas vacation, and I have to say the beachside has changed a lot... Hekate Sep 2014 #65
I'm naming my pony "Robust Public Option" Jim Lane Sep 2014 #63
OMG! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #68
Yes BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #69
I'll name mine climate change. raouldukelives Sep 2014 #87
I woke up this mornin' with the sundown shinin' in . . . Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #72
I love that you are here! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #77
I wished I would have thought of this OP. It's freakin' brilliant! Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #78
Thank you Major Hogwash, for getting out the vote. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #99
GOTV can and will beat the polls who seem to favor the GOPers always Iliyah Sep 2014 #107
I remember Iliyah! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #108
Obama fanfic. Union Scribe Sep 2014 #79
Ah the old RW standby... "unicorns and rainbows" RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #80
"we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers"? Enrique Sep 2014 #83
And WE DO!!!!! Autumn Sep 2014 #92
Meet the New Boss same as the Old Boss, just a different Fan Club. bahrbearian Sep 2014 #84
imagine what the media would be saying if a Republican were president with these numbers ... napkinz Sep 2014 #94
Oh those pesky facts, napkinz. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #100
if Romney were president, you know the media and the GOP would be calling it ... napkinz Sep 2014 #101
... napkinz Sep 2014 #95
Now that is a fact! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #96
A congress bent on obstructionism, -- you really don't want them in session. Fuck 'em. immoderate Sep 2014 #98
Kick! How's he gonna pay for the new war? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #102
K and R. Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2014 #106
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. Is this some kind of justification or rationalization for expanding the war in the Middle East?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:06 PM
Sep 2014

And without Congress's input? Our own country is crumbling and yet we are expanding a war we can not afford and, if we take a lesson from history, we can not win. And the warmongers and MIC are in seventh heaven.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
10. It's okay when we have the ball.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:15 PM
Sep 2014

Really, that is all this is about. Flip the (D) to an (R) and there would be posts with dates and times for protests.

Response to 840high (Reply #11)

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
15. Bullshit!! He has been pleading for Congress to return from their 7-week vacation to authorize this.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:22 PM
Sep 2014

You're so transparent.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
59. Yup. Your intellectual responses know no bounds. But then I would assume you would support
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:49 AM
Sep 2014

more and more wars as long as Pres Obama tells you it's ok.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
57. Of course so why is the president unilaterally taking that responsibility on his own.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:47 AM
Sep 2014

As you said the Constitution gives that duty to Congress. If they choose not to do anything, THAT'S THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.
But no, the neocons want war and more war.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
52. So let me guess your point since you are so intent on yelling "Bullshit" that you forgot the
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:36 AM
Sep 2014

point.

Since he pleaded for Congress to do their Constitutional duty and they didn't, he then took it upon his own self to expand the war in Syria. I looked and the Constitution doesn't say that if the President isn't happy with the way Congress is doing their job, he can wage war all on his own.

"You're so transparent." I am sure you meant to disparage me but I will accept it. I am transparent and I think my transparency shows that I don't like having a president that unilaterally invades other countries. I didn't like it when Bush/H.Clinton did it and I don't like it know. Maybe you can rationalize killing and bombings and deaths, but I can't.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
97. So...Congress needs to come back and rubber stamp the President's new war?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:48 PM
Sep 2014

Do you have a cite for where in the US Constitution it says that? Thanks!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
105. I am glad to oblige. It's called "The War Powers Clause"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:01 PM
Sep 2014

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the United States Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the power to declare war, in the following wording:

[The Congress shall have Power...] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Clause

How hypocritical that some here that were outraged when George the Dim-Son abused the Constitution but now fine with it when Pres Obama does it. Of course they are conservatives the lot.

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
27. We have a Congress? Really?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:35 PM
Sep 2014
House Reduces Workdays On 2014 Calendar After Working So Hard In 2013

Who banks a $174,000 annual salary and works less than a third of the year?

Members of the House of Representatives, apparently.

The 2014 calendar for the House was released Thursday by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), and shows members will only work only 113 days. That's down from 2013, when House lawmakers were scheduled to meet for 126 days. Only 107 days were scheduled in 2012.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called attention to the House's sparsely populated 2013 schedule in July 2013, highlighting the fact that the House had only nine workdays scheduled for September.

HuffPost reported in July that the 113th Congress was on pace to be the least productive in history. Many House members are running for reelection in the 2014 midterm elections and will spend part of their time campaigning.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/house-calendar-2014_n_4181969.html

I have to ask you something Rhett, where is your outrage here? Sadly misplaced would be my humble opinion.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
28. And when they are in session what does the GOP house do
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:41 PM
Sep 2014

vote to repeal Obamacare and find ways to support the 1-2%ers, and eff the middle class, poor.

Yeah, where is the outrage.

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
30. YES, Iliyah!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:49 PM
Sep 2014

Oh and let's not forget they want to impeach Obama. Maybe some here want that too.

Let's stick it to the taxpayers one more time, we will charge them millions on a fools errand to impeach the President over Obamacare. Yes indeed where the hell is that outrage?! Hmmm? Wow, I only hear crickets! Am I missing something here Iliyah?

Outrage 101. Wow silence!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
36. Congress makes decisions, the decision not to entertain immigration reform because the House is
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:09 AM
Sep 2014

wrong, the decision to skirt the real issue on ISIS but the House never failed to vote to repeal ACA. Just useless. And now we hear about unemployed people being lazy, HUH?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
55. I have enough outrage to share with a do nothing Congress and a President
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:43 AM
Sep 2014

that uses that fact to rationalize expanding a war that we can not afford and can not win.

Feeding America's children should be our number one priority. But no, some here side with the neocons and drool over the idea of more and more deaths. Bombs, rockets, oh my.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
81. You don't believe in the Constitution do you?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:48 AM
Sep 2014

I thought Obama wasn't a dictator? Haven't you pointed that out a few times?

You think an article in the Huffington Post explaining what a crappy Congress we have does away with the Constitution.

That's your argument? Really?

Sheesh! Talk about transparent!

Hekate

(90,562 posts)
49. Where IS Congress, rhett?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:32 AM
Sep 2014

Oh right, they're on vacation where they've been all year, sniping at the Prez from the woods and ducking all responsibility.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
54. So, what are you trying to justify? What does the Constitution say? When Congress is on
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:39 AM
Sep 2014

vacation, the president can do whatever the f he wants. Sadly, your blind admiration for the President seem to preclude your compassion for the victims of war. Over 30 veterans commit suicide every day. But I am betting that's not important but our tough stance in the middle east is. And I thought only Republicans drooled over more killings.

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
67. Wow you have used drooling a lot here.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:21 AM
Sep 2014

Lots of posts from you on us drooling for death.

We that support this President are drooling for more death. You should be ashamed, yet I know that you are not.

Your posts sure show your disrespect for this President and anyone that supports him. You said that all we wish for is death. Shame on you!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
86. "Without Congress' input". That's rich. Congress is -yet again- on an extended vacation.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:55 AM
Sep 2014

It's difficult to run a country when one branch of it simply wants to loaf and play games.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
91. So your rationalization boils down to "It's difficult". It's difficult to operate within the Consti
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:44 PM
Sep 2014

Constitution, so the President unilaterally invades Syria?

I am surprised that those anxious for an expansion of the war haven't used Condi Rice's "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

The only purpose of the Great Middle East War is to transfer the remaining wealth of the middle class into the hands of the 1%.

calimary

(81,125 posts)
109. "...and without Congress's input?..." Uh... your argument is not with the President, my friend.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:35 PM
Sep 2014

When the GOP-dominated "Congress" won't get off its collective fucking ass and get back to DC to WORK, and DO THEIR JOBS (because they'd rather stay out in the hinterlands, campaigning for themselves, cashing big checks from koch and company, spreading hate, and badmouthing everything that our President has been trying to do)? Um... you need to be railing against the republi-CON Congress.

Those guys who hate working Monday through Friday as Nancy Pelosi MADE THEM DO when she ran the place. Oh NO! They have to have Fridays off and Mondays off, and maybe they'll give us an hour or two on Tuesdays and Thursdays when they're either on their way back in or trying to get outta there for another long weekend? Trying to spread fear out there among the public - anybody remember some dude we called "FDR"? Anybody remember one of his signature statements - about "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself" ? Fear! Fear! Fear! Be AFRAID, America!

Frankly, I REFUSE to be afraid. Especially if the lindsey grahams and john mccains and the scott "IDIOT" browns their ilk are all talking about how we MUST be afraid? Then I REFUSE.

I agree with you about the warmongers and the MIC. But when President Obama has a "Congress" that just refuses to play ANY kind of ball with him - simply BECAUSE they refuse to stop being SORE LOSERMEN, then I just can't go there. He should go ahead without 'em. FUCK 'EM. He's been trying to get these assholes and weasels and Sore Losermen to play ball ever since he got to the Oval Office the first time, and they've refused. Every time he's extended his hand, they've spit in it (or worse - just change the letter "p&quot . So FUCK 'EM. And not just on this. America's got work to do, problems to solve, and roadblocks to MOVE OUT OF THE WAY (like all the poor-sportsmanship poster children and human hurdles in "Congress&quot . Including this. Including everything else, too. And by now, I say - leave 'em all behind. Do it yourself, Mr. President. I'd rather you NOT do all that much over there on this particular subject, frankly. But get something done, Mr. President. You're the only person we can really count on to get anything done and say anything but "no" all the time.

Okay - flame away!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
110. So your rationalization is that if the President doesn't like what Congress is doing or not
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:06 PM
Sep 2014

doing he can take matters into his own hands? Especially when it comes to bombing a sovereign nation.

We can not win this war, we can not even decide from day to day who the good guys are. We have people suffering from poverty in our country, that's where the President should take unilateral action.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
61. Why are you excitedly waiting. Bombs, rockets, oh my! Sad how those that opposed Bush's
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:53 AM
Sep 2014

war mongering, now support Pres Obama's. "But IS is a threat to all civilization, we can't wait until the smoking gun is a mushroom cloud." Conservatives are the same whether they are Republicans or Democrats. Bombing and killing is more important than feeding American children.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. Awesome President
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:12 PM
Sep 2014

wonderful man. I'm proud to have helped put him in the Oval Office.
I got your back Mr President, all the way through, over the hills and down through the valleys, I have your back.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
12. You really have his back?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:16 PM
Sep 2014

Anyone else? Military members that may die as a result of this escalation, innocents? Who has their backs?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
16. I have President Obama's back! He was handed a bunch of SHIT! If Bush had not invaded Iraq
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:24 PM
Sep 2014

ISIS would not even be a part of this discussion!! Blame the people who did this to us. Do not blame this president for every goddamn thing! Sick and tired of this shit! Blame these fucking Republicans for this crap!

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
20. How many countries did Bush bomb compared to Obama? I'll
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:18 PM
Sep 2014

tell ya. Bush bombed four. Obama bombed 7 countries in 6 years. Bush bombed four over his entire term. Bush is a POS, but let's not pretend Obama who pledged to be a "peace president" and got a Nobel prize for it before he had done anything is some kind of angel. He is not-- I don't care about salutes with coffee or any of that crap. I do care about now we have another war that will 70:30 lead us to Armageddon while taking money from the people least able to afford it. Watch what happens. This is no one here's first rodeo!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
38. Didn't you know how the dominoes was going to fall? Guess not if you did not know how many
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:12 AM
Sep 2014

countries was going to have today's problems.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
47. I also didn't know the government would
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:24 AM
Sep 2014

be forming ISIS itself with DOD weapons contributed to Syrian rebels with Saudi and Qatar money and training provided by DOD and a leader picked at Camp Bucca Iraq in the latter days of that war. Right: Obama is clear because it was a matter of dominoes falling. Yes, including the ones from Libya and Palestine.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
42. Wow. A powerful reality check
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:15 AM
Sep 2014

right in the middle of a Third Way adulation thread.

I don't usually approve of kicking these things, but that was refreshing. Thank you.
 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
48. Occasionally one has to meet the
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:28 AM
Sep 2014

bots head on. I voted for Obama twice and have been a Democrat since February, 1964. I have never seen anything like what is occurring now--and it is just getting started.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
64. results
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:11 AM
Sep 2014

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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
26. Ditto!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:34 PM
Sep 2014

Just think if RMoney was in, or Palin/McCain. America would have boots on the ground throughout the Middle East and Ukraine, and talk about WW3 - yep. Damn to he does, damn if he doesn't. Its getting old.

Read where Rmoney's wife Ms. Queen Ann is saying if her husband was President, Isil would not have existed. What a load of shit.

Over four thousand Americans killed
Over 100,000 Iragi's kill

In Bush's war

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
29. RMoney in...that would give me nightmares!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:42 PM
Sep 2014

Thanks Ilyah! You are right, this is Bush's war and Obama has to clean up that mess.

Does he get any credit for that, nope. Some at DU say that this is Obama's war. Oh and lest we forget, here on DU Obama=Bush. Yup! Gotta love DU.



sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
35. Yes!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:01 AM
Sep 2014

We vote 2014!

I have no intention of listening to the naysayers. I live in a blue state and we have a Governor, Senator, AG to vote for and I am voting blue!

We fire them in 2014, Iliyah!

Vote Vote Vote 2014 Vote them out!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
39. I to live a in very Blue State
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:12 AM
Sep 2014

wherein the democratic governor and democratic legislators brought the state back from a (-) to a (+). Education is a top priority, jobs, health care, and cost of living.

Many of the Red States' unemployment is on the raise, no health care, and guess who they are blaming.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
71. On the eve of war
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:50 AM
Sep 2014

While bombs are dropping emblazoned with an American flag--the flag of my country--and innocents are dying: women, children, the elderly, mothers, fathers, grandparents, I could not find the proper word to describe this misguided attempt at snark. Appalling, disgusting, cold-hearted, and chilling came to mind, but those could not drown out the weeping from those who will die whether they are killed by our "freedom fighters" or ISIL. They do not have any protection, they have no shelter, they were only born in the wrong place at the wrong time. They will die and the survivors will weep. And they will die in your name and mine, with weapons paid for by my labor and yours. To care that they lived and wish they would not die is not a "pony."

But the one thing that NEVER came to mind was ROFL. Not EVER.

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
73. You!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:28 AM
Sep 2014

You called it self serving.

I looked up a word to describe this and could only come up with

Self-serving.


self-serv·ing
adjective
1.
having concern for one's own welfare and interests before those of others.
"public accountability is replaced by self-serving propaganda"
noun
1.
concern for oneself before others.

Amazing. Your interpretation of my OP as snark boggles my mind. And here you are only focused on ISIL. My OP covered far more than current events. It had to do with the every day bashing of this President.

ISIL. Yes that is bad, how do you wish to address what GWB got us into? Shall we walk away? Shall we ignore what BushCo created?" Shall we just wash our hands and then say that they are clean?

Our hands are dirty, do we just walk away from the death that we have caused?

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
75. Wow!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:55 AM
Sep 2014

I am shameful for posting what you deride as a funny meme.

I posted an OP in DU.

Your response is over the top. It was not meant to be funny. Sadly it is fact. Sorry you did not get that~

Dear gawd do you call out posters here everyday that bash this President!? Shameful is calling the President a POS. Oh and so many more here. So many disgusting posts and you call what I posted shameful?

I am on Democratic Underground am I not?

Wake up BrotherIvan

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
76. The US officially started airstrikes against ISIS two days ago
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:11 AM
Sep 2014

That means that people, including civilians, are dying. Do you think snark is appropriate? Do you not see how chilling it is that Americans can support and wage war because it does not affect them? The fact that your day to day life is not affected (outwardly) at all as we enter yet another war so that it is easy to make jokes about "ponies and rainbows" and condescend to those who are calling for peace? That this is the very reason why our country is reviled by the rest of the world?

A serious question, and this is not political, but personal--human to human: how would you feel if the people you loved were being bombed right now? Would you still have posted the same OP?

You tell me to wake up, but my friend's wife is near hysterical because her family is there and she can't contact them. They are most likely dead or will be soon. But it would not matter if I did not personally know someone. I know it is not appropriate to make jokes at a funeral. PEOPLE ARE DYING, killed by our bombs. Americans--rich, fat, soft, coddled Americans--have no idea what the wars they cheer on actually mean, what they cost in grief and suffering. So yes, I think this post is very inappropriate and makes those who call themselves "Democrats" look as tribal and callous as conservatives.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
37. "I never promised to make 82% of the Bush tax cuts permanent"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:11 AM
Sep 2014

"or to ask for cuts in Social Security, or to push the TPP and other 'free' trade agreements, or to brag about more than a half-decade of austerity, or to spy on all citizens, and anything else on the planet that we can spy on, or a lot of other stuff...

but I did them.

Sure, I know that these were not popular positions for most of you little people...

but thanks to these bold actions, Jamie and Llloyd are really, really happy. And rich. Really rich.

Now excuse me, I need to throw darts at my Paul Krugman poster.
"

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
41. You may whine and cry, we are used to hearing the whining, but did you receive the intelligence
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:15 AM
Sep 2014

briefing? Then the President and many members of Congress did and they listened, thank them for their courage.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
46. We are in a hell of a mess. None of us, including the president, want war. Yet if you watched
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:23 AM
Sep 2014

Rachel tonight you know that this is a world threat and not just a couple of Americans beheaded. They have recruited persons in all countries to find someone to behead. That unleashes all the crazies (and I hate to use that word) on all of us. I understand why we are at war even if I do not want to be there.

Hekate

(90,562 posts)
51. I wish I could shake your hand, Sir. Every damn day you just do your job. Thank you.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:36 AM
Sep 2014

Aloha pumehana,

another kama'aina here

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
58. I had to look those up, hekate.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:48 AM
Sep 2014

You are a local Hawaiian as well as Obama?

Mahalo my dear Hekate!

This!

"I wish I could shake your hand, Sir. Every damn day you just do your job. Thank you."


Yes, I am with you on this~

Hekate

(90,562 posts)
65. I grew up in Kailua, where the Obamas vacation, and I have to say the beachside has changed a lot...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:13 AM
Sep 2014

...judging from the photos of the compound they stay at!

Kai-Hi grad here, also UH Manoa. My kids were both born at Kaiser Hospital in Waikiki in the 1970s. I've been gone a long time, but that place does something permanent to your perspective, as far as I'm concerned.

That's why reading Dreams from My Father was so illuminating for me: I've said it repeatedly, that his grandparents' response to the Islands was an awful lot like my parents' was, and so much more.

back atcha

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
63. I'm naming my pony "Robust Public Option"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:07 AM
Sep 2014

Presumably you'll name yours "Tim Geithner". Happy trails!

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
72. I woke up this mornin' with the sundown shinin' in . . .
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:10 AM
Sep 2014

I found my mind in a brown paper bag within . . .
I tripped on a cloud and fell-a eight miles high . . .
I tore my mind on a jagged sky . . .
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in.

Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah, what condition my condition was in.

Your OP rocks, sheshe2!


This is sheer genius at work, folks.
Pay attention!!

About the song, well, . . . you just blew my mind, that's all.





sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
77. I love that you are here!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:17 AM
Sep 2014


Oh my goodness. Some of the wild ones are hear as well! Ya know them, they love to bash Obama.

LOL. I don't think they like me much~

Thank you Major!



Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
78. I wished I would have thought of this OP. It's freakin' brilliant!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:25 AM
Sep 2014

Yeah, good point, there are some wild ones here.
They remind me of Marlon Brando's character in the movie "The Wild One".
Especially in that 1 part where the girl asks Brando why his gang is being so wild.

Mildred: Hey Johnny, what are you rebelling against?
Johnny: Whaddaya got?


"Whaddaya got?"
Ain't that the truth.
Against anything and everything.

From Obama wearing a tan suit to Obama holding on to his coffee cup while saluting some Marines.
Every day.
Every single day of the week.
Every week of the month.
Week after week, month after month.

But, hey, they gots to do what they gots to do.
They don't hate ya, they're just ticked off because you're not afraid of 'em.

Yet, there are only 40 days until the mid-term elections are here.
So, what are they going to say if the Republicans still retain control of the House of Representatives for the next 2 years?

Because that is what is at stake here these days.

I'll tell you what they'll say, they'll say that it isn't their fault.
They'll say, "I live in a blue state and the people I voted for are all Democrats, and all of them were re-elected."
More "neener, neener" crap.
And then they'll criticize someone like me, who does not live in a blue state, and they'll say, "its your fault that the Republicans were re-elected in your state!"

Yet, I don't make many posts here during the day.
I don't have the time for that sort of crappola.
And I'm also not here during the day whining about the President.
Not at all.

Last weekend I distributed flyers for one of the Democratic candidates running for US Congress.
And I volunteered to distribute flyers on Wednesday for the Democratic candidate for Governor.
I had most of Wednesday afternoon off from work, so I was available.
But, the weather forecast last Friday said it was going to rain this Wednesday.
Yet, rain don't bother me none, so I signed up for it right away anyway.

However, it didn't rain, not one drop at all.
Instead, the winds shifted on Tuesday afternoon, and it was a gorgeous day here on Wednesday.
The temperature even hit 95º.

So, there I was, walking around my neighborhood in beautiful weather, distributing flyers, doing what I gots to do.
We have half a chance of actually getting Democrats elected to high office this year because the Republican party is so torn apart because of the demands of the state's Tea Party coalition clashing with the moderate stances the established Republicans have stood for the last 2 decades.
So, I am not about to let this golden "once in a lifetime" opportunity pass me by.

Don't let the bastards get you down, sheshe2.

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
99. Thank you Major Hogwash, for getting out the vote.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:37 PM
Sep 2014

You stand half a chance to get Dems elected in your state? That sounds pretty good. Your efforts can make that change.

And I refuse to listen to the polls that say that the GOP are going to be the winners. Not if I can help it. We need to vote as if our lives depend upon it, because they do.

I am in a blue state. Yet we cannot sit on our butts and think Dems will win whether we vote or not. The last time that happened we got Scott Brown for Senator!!!! So far it looks good for a Dem Governor here and Senator Markey to get re-elected. I have to say that our primary a few weeks ago, my polling place was crowded. I hope all Dem voters in every state are so motivated.

And for those refusing to vote because their candidate is not progressive enough, well they become part of the problem and not the solution.

Thank you for all your hard work, Major!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
107. GOTV can and will beat the polls who seem to favor the GOPers always
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:54 PM
Sep 2014

Remember Cantor wherein everyone was shocked b/c all the polling had him winning in a landside. How about Mississippi huh where evil GOPers 1 went out and got the "Black" votes. Now GA wants to further oppress the black votes.

Polls can not tell you about the ground game.

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
108. I remember Iliyah!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:21 PM
Sep 2014

The ground game is all you need to pay attention to. I watched and listened to it twice with Obama. I knew he was going to win, I really did.

We can do this in 2014.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
101. if Romney were president, you know the media and the GOP would be calling it ...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:42 PM
Sep 2014

MORNING IN AMERICA II





 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
98. A congress bent on obstructionism, -- you really don't want them in session. Fuck 'em.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:26 PM
Sep 2014

There really is not much they have to do that can't be done in say, 50 days a year. The rest of the time could be spent in their districts, listening to the wishes of their constituents.

They should have to make their calendar public.

--imm

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