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Letter to the editor ... Great Britain
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts).
cer7711
(502 posts)Only now are we beginning to understand the prophetic, damning truth of Thomas E. Ricks's words, who wrote in Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq, 2003-2005: "The events for which we will remember the Iraq war haven't even happened yet."
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I've seen DUers say don't worry, be happy! I've seen a thread about ponies and rainbows. I've seen the same arguments for war used by rightwingers from those who call themselves "Democrats".
If it feels like up is down and left is right and the whole thing doesn't make sense, just look at this picture of Bo in the snow and go shopping because that will take all your war blues away.
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kath
(10,565 posts)rah rah cis boom bah!!
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)rpannier
(24,338 posts)Here it was, I thought the whole situation sordid and murky
Thank goodness for mud
merrily
(45,251 posts)Is anyone?
(Hint: if you think you are clear about what actually goes on in D.C., you're probably mistaken.)
Great post, as usual, iching.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Then again, I've become a suspicious sort.
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)Some of our friends attacked us so we could attack our mutual enemies.
Clear as mud.
merrily
(45,251 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)them over there.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!!!111!1!1!
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JEB
(4,748 posts)many people that love killing, we got a few powerful people who profit hugely from killing, we got a few who support blindly as long as their party is in office, we got a few marginalized fools who think killing is wrong.
stage left
(2,966 posts)The situation is as clear as crystal. Thanks.
johnnyreb
(915 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)that we seek to destroy.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)G_j
(40,371 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)Bookmarking
MisterP
(23,730 posts)EEO
(1,620 posts)Yes. Yes I do. The world is never going to be a utopia. People like Saddam Hussein are necessary evils to keep order in the world. George H.W. Bush got hell for not going into Baghdad during Desert Storm, but his decision was vindicated by his own son.
merrily
(45,251 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)And right wing conservative regimes always use religion to placate the population. It makes fascism so much easier. I mean this in the broadest sense. Conservative as in ruling the country with the few elite wealthy class as the primary beneficiaries with extortion and bribery going on at the highest levels. And as we all know, if you give religion an inch they will take a mile and before long the extremes of any religion crawl out from the dregs. The Westboro Baptist Church in the US, ISIS in the middle east. Even the Russian Orthadox Church in Russia is being wooed and placated by Putin.
2banon
(7,321 posts)I'd love to post this on my fb page if copyright isn't an issue, but I need the linky thingy.
It explains everything so clearly!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Best summation of what's what in ME I have seen yet.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)SylviaD
(721 posts)the absolute mess bush made of the Middle East.
...I never thought I would type those words.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Some, including myself, believe she is more hawkish than President Obama.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)She always has been. She's hawkish. I backed Obama over Hillary in '08 primarily over that factor.
Obama never pretended to be anything other than what he is, at least in my opinion. He campaigned vigorously on a PROMISE to pursue America's enemies wherever they are. He PROMISED that if Bin Laden was in Pakistan he would go there and kill or capture the man with or without Pakistan's permission.
So he's never lied about what he believes. Same for Hillary. She walks, talks, and acts hawkish. She's a hawk.
I voted Justice Party in 2012, but I've never regretted my vote for Obama.
If it makes sense, I'll vote for Hillary in 2016 with full knowledge of where she stands. She stands in agreement with maybe 50% of what I believe.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)me, the Party, the troops, the country, the world, and the Iraq people. We counted on her and other Democrats to try, at least try to reign in the crazies of the Republican Party. But no. I call it betrayal. She, along with many others, will have a lot of explaining to do when they meet their maker.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)
They debate the Constitutionality of what Obama is doing with regards to the New Middle Eastern War; they diss Congressional leaders for not contesting what Obama is doing, as Congress doesn't want any blame if this doesn't come out all right, and yet they will take credit if it turns out fine.
And they mention how much Obama has morphed in his years as President. From someone who back in 2008 had disdain for the Iraq War Resolution, but now uses aspects of the language parsed during the Bush regime to justify what has happened in Syria over the last few days.
You can watch it here:
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)here to defend his position.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Rec
Rex
(65,616 posts)Way above.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)flamingdem
(39,324 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)underwater with moving water knocking the pieces around.
FlatStanley
(327 posts)Unless that party is my team, then it infects the party out of power, unless that party is my team.
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)It sums up the situation concisely, clearly, elegantly.