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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:41 AM Sep 2014

Richard Branson: Why we’re letting Virgin staff take as much holiday (vacation) as they want

Hopefully the beginning of a new paradigm shift in the workplace...

In the past few years, Netflix has become the runaway market leader in the streaming video sector. One clue as to how they intend to remain there this time comes from a very well-advised and downright courageous initiative they adopted that rewrote the book – or to be more precise, threw it away – on something very near and dear to the hearts of most workers around the world: their annual vacation day entitlement.

I first learned of what Netflix was up to when my daughter Holly read a Daily Telegraph article and immediately forwarded the piece to me with a clearly excited email saying, ‘Dad, check this out. It’s something I have been talking about for a while and I believe it would be a very Virgin thing to do to not track people’s holidays.’ She then went on to say, ‘I have a friend whose company has done the same thing and they’ve apparently experienced a marked upward spike in everything – morale, creativity and productivity have all gone through the roof.’ Needless to say I was instantly intrigued and wanted to learn more.

The Telegraph article talked about the new vacation policy that has been adopted by Netflix, which might actually be more accurately described as being, well, no policy! It’s a little bit like when you read that someone is offering a ‘zero per cent interest rate’. If there’s no interest can it really be called an interest rate?

Anyway, simply stated, the policy-that-isn’t permits all salaried staff to take off whenever they want for as long as they want. There is no need to ask for prior approval and neither the employees themselves nor their managers are asked or expected to keep track of their days away from the office. It is left to the employee alone to decide if and when he or she feels like taking a few hours, a day, a week or a month off, the assumption being that they are only going to do it when they feel a hundred per cent comfortable that they and their team are up to date on every project and that their absence will not in any way damage the business – or, for that matter, their careers!

The Netflix initiative had been driven by a growing groundswell of employees asking about how their new technology-controlled time on the job (working at all kinds of hours at home and/or everywhere they receive a business text or email) could be reconciled with the company’s old-fashioned time-off policy. That is to say, if Netflix was no longer able to accurately track employees’ total time on the job, why should it apply a different and outmoded standard to their time away from it? The company agreed, and as its ‘Reference Guide on our Freedom and Responsibility Culture’ explains, ‘We should focus on what people get done, not on how many hours or days worked. Just as we don’t have a nine-to-five policy, we don’t need a vacation policy.’

http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/why-were-letting-virgin-staff-take-as-much-holiday-as-they-want
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Richard Branson: Why we’re letting Virgin staff take as much holiday (vacation) as they want (Original Post) Turborama Sep 2014 OP
That's the point: "or, for that matter, their careers!" DetlefK Sep 2014 #1
For a minute I thought they were letting only the virgins do it. woo me with science Sep 2014 #2
Get back to me when warehouse crew gets the same..... daleanime Sep 2014 #7
Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2014 #8
I noted that too. CaptainTruth Sep 2014 #14
For sure! mountain grammy Sep 2014 #17
Excellent! daleanime Sep 2014 #18
That's excellent news, thans for sharing! Turborama Sep 2014 #20
Imagine that - sanity in the workplace. K&R nt TBF Sep 2014 #3
NB: It's just Branson's private staff CJCRANE Sep 2014 #4
'So far' being the operative phrase. According to the last sentence, he would like to roll it out... Turborama Sep 2014 #5
Only salaried employees? Figures. It's the hourly ones who really need a catbyte Sep 2014 #6
And the hourly employees are the ones..... daleanime Sep 2014 #9
At my company hourly employees have "endless vacation" RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #11
Some of the hourly ones are covered by collective bargaining agreements. Brickbat Sep 2014 #12
Netflix Operations and Care and Repair are probably the only hourly employees snooper2 Sep 2014 #19
I'm flying Virgin in a few weeks. They had better have enough staff! vanlassie Sep 2014 #10
The small business I work for has unlimited time off. Brickbat Sep 2014 #13
Right. Diremoon Sep 2014 #15
Translation: my staff has so much dirt on me Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #16

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. That's the point: "or, for that matter, their careers!"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:58 AM
Sep 2014

That's important. That threat has to stay so a worker doesn't skip town indefinitely in the midst of an important project. The company has to keep running, even when parts of it aren't there.

On the other hand, if a worker is replacable for a certain amount of time, why shouldn't he take some time off?

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. For a minute I thought they were letting only the virgins do it.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:59 AM
Sep 2014

But seriously, this is wonderful.

Workers in corporate workplaces are so often treated like cogs or children and micromanaged from offices way above that have no concept of what they are dealing with.

It's way past time for corporations to respect and recognize employees as adults who know their own jobs best and are capable of making good decisions about when they can best take a leave. Not to mention that employees who are respected to make good decisions in the company have more reason to make those decisions with company interests in mind.

Corporate American seriously needs to rethink its treatment of employees, the whole concept. At some point they decided that they would rather screw people over for the last possible penny than build a loyal and mutually respected workforce with incentives to do their best for the company.

CaptainTruth

(6,588 posts)
14. I noted that too.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:18 AM
Sep 2014

I understand & support the concept, but when it's only applied to salaried staff (ie management) & not ALL workers, including those making minimum wage, it looks like just another perk for the highly paid upper class.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
5. 'So far' being the operative phrase. According to the last sentence, he would like to roll it out...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:03 AM
Sep 2014
Assuming it goes as well as expected, we will encourage all our subsidiaries to follow suit, which will be incredibly exciting to watch.


catbyte

(34,373 posts)
6. Only salaried employees? Figures. It's the hourly ones who really need a
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:53 AM
Sep 2014

break. They're usually the ones doing all the really awful work. Salaried employees come & go as they please anyway. Meh.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
11. At my company hourly employees have "endless vacation"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:11 AM
Sep 2014

but it is pretty misleading.

It's nice to be able to take time off when needed. But it isn't "vacation" time. You're just not working. And getting paid (or not) accordingly. Which is fair of course, I just think the title they give the policy is somewhat off.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
12. Some of the hourly ones are covered by collective bargaining agreements.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:17 AM
Sep 2014

If it's important to them, they can bargain for it.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
19. Netflix Operations and Care and Repair are probably the only hourly employees
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

Engineering, Tier2 Tier3 support, development/developers, are all going to be salary


The aren't making Big Mac's there LOL, it's technology company

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
13. The small business I work for has unlimited time off.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:17 AM
Sep 2014

It's awesome. ETA: It's awesome in that it works. We're focused on results -- projects finished on time and under budget -- instead of how many hours a butt is in a chair throughout the day. If you get your work done early in a day, you can either work ahead or be done. If you want time off, you put it on the calendar and it's approved. We're small enough that we manage ourselves so as not to all go on vacation at once.

Diremoon

(86 posts)
15. Right.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:25 AM
Sep 2014

As long as their work is done. I worked for an engineering manager who had this policy. It really didn't make any difference. You usually had 80 or 90 hours of work to do every week. You really didn't even have time to take weekends off.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
16. Translation: my staff has so much dirt on me
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:31 AM
Sep 2014

...that this is just part of the payoff package for their silence.

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