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PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:36 PM Sep 2014

Excellent rant on the ridiculousness of "Salutegate"

https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle/posts/731530420215697

America has become the land of the perpetually offended. We are the forever outraged, we Americans. It's a bullshit first world problem that afflicts those who face no real difficulty in their day to day lives. No difficulty? What's that you say? Yeah, listen, when you have to lug the day's water four miles from the nearest river on top of your head, get back to me.

This outrage, it's a disease common to those who have enough to eat and a warm place to sleep and endless access to cheap goods and more TV channels than they could view even if they did nothing else. Yesterday, I stood in line behind an angry disaffected hipster at the coffee shop who spent ten minutes ordering a pumpkin spice chai tea latte with various ingredients, a drink that totalled - and I shit you not - $14.98. He held the line up for twenty minutes with his bullshit. Fifteen dollars for a cup of tea. Fifteen dollars for a cup of tea, folks. Twenty minutes of screwing around, and the pretentious little prick STILL wasn't happy. And we all had to listen to him complain to the barista about his goddamned tea. I wanted to snatch him up by his nasty little goatee and smash his fucking head on the counter.

That's what America has become, right there, a bunch of privileged snots mad because our chai tea latte isn't hot enough.
We're outraged all of the time because we've got nothing better to do than be outraged all the damned time.
Listen to me, when the worst thing that happened to you today is that the president waved at a Marine with a cup of coffee in his hand, when THAT's what you've got to be offended by, then you really don't have any actual problems. You're just being an asshole.

It's a symptom of the larger disease.

When the only thing you've got to be upset about is that two gay people want to get married, if that's what offends you, you're just being an asshole.
When the only thing you've got to be pissed off about is that other people worship a different god from yours, or go to a different church, or don't believe in gods at all, then you're just being an asshole.
When you're outraged at the idea that some woman somewhere is getting an abortion, but meanwhile the thought of millions of children starving to death, or dying of preventable and treatable diseases, of suffering from poverty and neglect, or dying under the fall of our bombs doesn't bother you, you're just being an asshole.
When the only thing you've got to be outraged by is that you feel you're being persecuted for your religious beliefs, or your race, or your gender, or your sexual orientation even though you're a member of the overwhelming majority and you provably benefit from that fact every single day, then you're just being an asshole.
When the worst thing in your day is that we're not at war enough, that we aren't bombing or invading or killing enough, if that's your beef, then you are an asshole.
Other countries? Other places in the world? Their leaders are chopping off heads. Literally chopping off heads. Chopping off hands. Murdering. Raping. They're gunning people down in the streets. They're invading their neighbors. People are starving to death and they've got no choice but to drink out of the same river they shit in.
America? We're outraged that the president waved at a Marine with a cup of coffee in his hand.
THAT's what WE've got to be upset about.
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Addendum:
Folks, let me clue you in on something: BY CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A CIVILIAN.
He shouldn't be saluting at all.
Reagan started this idiotic bullshit, no president before him raised a salute, not even Eisenhower.
The president is a civilian. There is no law, statute, regulation, or US Code that requires him to salute. Period. Nor should he. And in point of fact, the people who set up this country SPECIFICALLY didn't want the president to be a member of the military - which is why we put civilians in charge of it.
The president shouldn't be saluting in the first place. Period. A nod, a verbal acknowledgement to the military folks guarding him is sufficient.
Listen to me carefully: We don't want the president, this one or any other, acting like they are a general. This is the United States of America, and it's long past time for you to remember that.
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Addendum 2:
Folks, something I'd point out to you, the President is left handed, as am I.
The president was descending the steep boarding ladder of Marine 1, very likely he was holding on to the rail with his dominant hand, as would I, i.e. the left one. Out of habit, likely he was holding his coffee in his right, as would I. Both without thinking about it - because, and I'm guessing here, the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES just might have other things on his mind than which hand to hold his coffee cup in.
This exact thing happened to me, as a military officer, more than once. Holding my coffee cup, moving through the ship, step out on the deck, and get saluted and have to switch hands or nod or just plain fuck it up and salute with my cup. Because, you know, we're all human. Some of us are left handed humans operating in a right handed world.

Again, if this is what you have to be outraged by, you're an asshole and I don't care which hand you're using.
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Excellent rant on the ridiculousness of "Salutegate" (Original Post) PeaceNikki Sep 2014 OP
Yup tazkcmo Sep 2014 #1
Perfect description of America's social climate today The Traveler Sep 2014 #2
+1 I wish you weren't right. wandy Sep 2014 #5
indeed. stupid assholes. Jim is getting quite the hate mail about this as well. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #18
Apparently, Reagan is the one started saluting back (figures) deutsey Sep 2014 #3
And I figure that if Eisenhower, LibertyLover Sep 2014 #4
I think Politifact has found video of Ike saluting while POTUS, but it was in front of large crowds Erose999 Sep 2014 #11
Eisenhower did sarge43 Sep 2014 #15
We'd all be so much better off today if Reagan would have just stuck to doing what he did best.... iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #6
Ain't that the truth. n/t deutsey Sep 2014 #9
Its a petty criticism Iliyah Sep 2014 #7
Yes, yes, and narnian60 Sep 2014 #8
You are correct, sir! SnowCritter Sep 2014 #10
Great rant! mnhtnbb Sep 2014 #12
I salute you Facebook dude! neverforget Sep 2014 #13
An excellent rant indeed sarge43 Sep 2014 #14
Actually all this stuff is only a big deal to the media and the RW because it involves Obama. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #16
Awesome rant. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #17
K&R... Latte gate, indeed... freshwest Sep 2014 #19
"Reagan started this idiotic bullshit, no president before him raised a salute" phantom power Sep 2014 #20

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
1. Yup
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:41 PM
Sep 2014

"He shouldn't be saluting at all. " In my 5 years in the Army I never had a civilian salute me and would have been thinking "Oh, how cute!".

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
2. Perfect description of America's social climate today
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:52 PM
Sep 2014

The national discussion is dominated by assholes. It really is that simple.

Trav

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
18. indeed. stupid assholes. Jim is getting quite the hate mail about this as well.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:16 PM
Sep 2014

It is as hilarious as it is frightening.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
3. Apparently, Reagan is the one started saluting back (figures)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:55 PM
Sep 2014

Until him, no president (including Eisenhower) saluted back.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
4. And I figure that if Eisenhower,
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:13 PM
Sep 2014

who just might have known a thing or three about military protocol, didn't salute his military escort, then no president needs to salute.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
11. I think Politifact has found video of Ike saluting while POTUS, but it was in front of large crowds
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:12 PM
Sep 2014

and things like parades. There's no evidence of him saluting individual servicemen or his military escort.

There was a brouhahah over this when Reagan started doing it, as the salute was considered reserved for those in uniform.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
15. Eisenhower did
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

He served under Douglas "There but for the grace of God, goes God" MacArthur. Ike held no military status while he was POTUS. Five Stars are legally on permanent active duty, so he had to resign his commission. Kennedy immediately reinstated it. FWIW

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
6. We'd all be so much better off today if Reagan would have just stuck to doing what he did best....
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:51 PM
Sep 2014

...making crappy movies.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
14. An excellent rant indeed
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:40 PM
Sep 2014

and right on the money.

Regardless if you're a slick sleeve or have more brass than an ammo factory, if you are not in uniform, you do not salute. If active duty types don't salute when in civies, civilians never should.

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