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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWOW! Rolling Stone EXPOSES Koch Bros: financially, politically, environmentally ***MUST READ
One of the most eye-opening articles I have read in a long time. How are these guys not rotting in jail?? Unbelievable!!!
About the patriarch:
On their "Market Based Management" which rewarded workers for cutting costs and fired those who acted responsibly, a risky business model in the oil industry:
Unknown to the Smalleys, a decrepit Koch pipeline carrying liquid butane literally, lighter fluid ran through their subdivision. It had ruptured, filling the creek bed with vapor, and the spark from the pickup's ignition had set off a bomb. Federal investigators documented both "severe corrosion" and "mechanical damage" in the pipeline. A National Transportation Safety Board report would cite the "failure of Koch Pipeline Company LP to adequately protect its pipeline from corrosion."
Installed in the early Eighties, the pipeline had been out of commission for three years. When Koch decided to start it up again in 1995, a water-pressure test had blown the pipe open. An inspection of just a few dozen miles of pipe near the Smalley home found 538 corrosion defects. The industry's term of art for a pipeline in this condition is Swiss cheese, according to the testimony of an expert witness "essentially the pipeline is gone."
Koch repaired only 80 of the defects enough to allow the pipeline to withstand another pressure check and began running explosive fluid down the line at high pressure in January 1996. A month later, employees discovered that a key anticorrosion system had malfunctioned, but it was never fixed. Charles Koch had made it clear to managers that they were expected to slash costs and boost profits. In a sternly worded memo that April, Charles had ordered his top managers to cut expenditures by 10 percent "through the elimination of waste (I'm sure there is much more waste than that)" in order to increase pre-tax earnings by $550 million a year...
There is so much more, but I can't copy any more. Just read it. It's long and INFORMATIVE!
Honestly! Its just incredible these men are not in jail!
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-koch-brothers-toxic-empire-20140924#ixzz3EO6wCy9K
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)salib
(2,116 posts)But yes, it is ours to give and take back.
annominous
(68 posts)The Kochs are winning. There was no doubt about it, 40 years ago, they were on the lunatic fringe.
Now? By now they have convinced a large minority of the country to vote with them, using some of the most simple minded arguments in human history. How did they do it?
Persistence? Single-mindedness? Money? Pandering to the low impulses (race baiting, disinterest in paying taxes ... meaning: greed, name calling??? like, when has anyone really thought that calling someone else a communist would result in the ostracism of the one who was called the name ... on right, since Reagan).
Makes me ashamed of my fellow Americans.
salib
(2,116 posts)I tend to have more impact on myself. However, it is ironic that at the same time our real power for good is in everyone else. Numbers matter.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)LOOK.
FORWARD.
marym625
(17,997 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
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Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)Thanks for the thread, FourScore.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)(for the next couple of days, anyway)
Here's kpete's: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025586424
FourScore
(9,704 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)FourScore
(9,704 posts)It looks like kpete and I posted this just minutes apart. Normally, I would delete mine, but this article is so important, I want WIDE distribution!! I'll kick and rec hers as well.
Thanks for the k&R!
Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)The Kochs don't like exposure hence their attorney's letter to Rachel Maddow, so I say, let her rip.
On a thread by LisaLynne.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025573601
Koch Bros Send Maddow a Script to Read
They are outraged that Rachel reported on links between supposedly state-based, local policy groups and their funding, which leads back to the Koch Brothers.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... it rings true, doesn't it?
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)my father used to say something similar - you're innocent as long as your money holds out.
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)...only more so:
Laws are like spiders' webs which, if anything small and weak falls into them they ensnare it, but the large and powerful break through and escape. -- Solon, ca. 600 B.C.E.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Are these the kind of people we want to determine our future? Really?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Because US media is a wholly owned Reich Wing propaganda venture.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Zombies is right. Yecch!
newfie11
(8,159 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Going to read this tonight!
Cha
(297,220 posts)UTUSN
(70,692 posts)*************QUOTE**** [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"] [/FONT]
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-koch-brothers-toxic-empire-20140924#ixzz3EQrx8btk
[font size=5]Inside the Koch Brothers' Toxic Empire [/font]
Together, Charles and David Koch control one of the world's largest fortunes, which they are using to buy up our political system. But what they don't want you to know is how they made all that money
By Tim Dickinson
The enormity of the Koch fortune is no mystery. Brothers Charles and David are each worth more than $40 billion. The electoral influence of the Koch brothers is similarly well-chronicled. The Kochs are our homegrown oligarchs; they've cornered the market on Republican politics and are nakedly attempting to buy Congress and the White House. Their political network helped finance the Tea Party and powers today's GOP. Koch-affiliated organizations raised some [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]$400 million during the 2012 election[/FONT], and aim to spend another [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]$290 million[/FONT] to elect Republicans [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]in this year's midterms[/FONT]. So far in this cycle, Koch-backed entities have bought 44,000 political ads to boost Republican efforts to take back the Senate. ....
The volume of [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Koch Industries' toxic output is staggering[/FONT]. According to the University of Massachusetts Amherst's Political Economy Research Institute, [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]only three companies[/FONT] rank among the [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]top 30 polluters[/FONT] of America's air, water and climate: [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]ExxonMobil, American Electric Power and Koch Industries[/FONT]. Thanks in part to its 2005 purchase of paper-mill giant [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Georgia-Pacific[/FONT], Koch Industries dumps more pollutants into the nation's waterways than General Electric and International Paper combined. The company ranks 13th in the nation for toxic air pollution. Koch's climate pollution, meanwhile, outpaces oil giants including Valero, Chevron and Shell. Across its businesses, Koch generates 24 million metric tons of greenhouse gases a year.
For Koch, this [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]license to pollute[/FONT] amounts to a perverse, hidden subsidy. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]The cost is borne by communities[/FONT] in cities like Port Arthur, Texas, where a Koch-owned facility produces as much as 2 billion pounds of petrochemicals every year. In March, Koch signed a consent decree with the Department of Justice requiring it to spend more than $40 million to bring this plant into compliance with the Clean Air Act.
The toxic history of Koch Industries is not limited to physical pollution. It also extends to the company's [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]business practices[/FONT], which have been the target of numerous federal investigations, resulting in several indictments and convictions, as well as a whole host of fines and penalties. ....
But Charles was already falling under the sway of a charismatic radio personality named [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Robert LeFevre[/FONT], founder of the [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Freedom School, a whites-only libertarian[/FONT] boot camp in the foothills above Colorado Springs, Colorado. LeFevre preached a form of [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]anarchic capitalism[/FONT] in which the individual should be freed from almost all government power. Charles soon had to make a choice. While the Birchers supported the Vietnam War, his new guru was a pacifist who equated militarism with out-of-control state power. LeFevre's stark influence on Koch's thinking is crystallized in a manifesto Charles wrote for the Libertarian Review in the 1970s, recently unearthed by Schulman, titled "The Business Community: Resisting Regulation." Charles lays out principles that gird [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]today's Tea Party[/FONT] movement. Referring to regulation as "totalitarian," the 41-year-old Charles claimed business leaders had been "hoodwinked" by the notion that regulation is "in the public interest." ....
By this time, the Kochs had [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]soured on the Libertarian[/FONT] Party, concluding that control of a small party would never give them the muscle they sought in the nation's capital. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Now they would spend millions[/FONT] in efforts to influence and ultimately [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]take over the GOP[/FONT]. The work began close to home; the Kochs had become dedicated patrons of Sen. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Bob Dole[/FONT] of Kansas, who ran interference for Koch Industries in Washington. On the Senate floor in March 1990, Dole gloatingly cautioned against a "rush to judgment" against Koch, citing "very real concerns about some of the evidence on which the special committee was basing its findings." A grand jury investigated the claims but disbanded in 1992, without issuing indictments. ....
Then George W. Bush entered the White House in 2001, his campaign fattened with Koch money. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Charles Koch may decry cronyism as "nothing more than welfare for the rich and powerful," but[/FONT] he put his company to work, hand in glove, with the Bush White House. Correspondence, contacts and visits among Koch Industries representatives and the Bush White House generated nearly 20,000 pages of records, according to a Rolling Stone FOIA request of the George W. Bush Presidential Library. In 2007, the administration installed a fiercely anti-regulatory academic, Susan Dudley, who hailed from the Koch-funded [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Mercatus Center at George Mason University[/FONT], as its top regulatory official. ....
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Cha
(297,220 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)what is going on politically in America. I would assume that there are millions of Americans just as well informed.
So, it appears that knowing the situation isn't a remedy. If that is true, then what is the way Americans can fix this tragic morass of criminal behavior?
progressoid
(49,990 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)Do you have a better idea other than "get off your ass and write to your congressman or make sure you vote"?
progressoid
(49,990 posts)What I'm thinking should be done isn't exactly legal.
So I guess I'll continue to get off my ass and write to my congressman and vote.
1dogleft
(164 posts)I love it
Veilex
(1,555 posts)but it's gotta start somewhere.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)Veilex
(1,555 posts)And continued via twitter, if I remember correctly.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)is the inability to connect with others who are of a like mind. Now the masses can communicate on a massive scale.
I recognize the fact that keyboards can't manufacture physical things but they could organize enough like minded people to be able to turn elections their way regardless of the fact that the mass media is whoring out full time for the powerful rich.
The word needs to be gotten out to all Americans that the rich are abusing and stealing our share of Earth's bounty and that their main propaganda tool is their media. Further, we need to sell the masses on the idea that beliefs should be fact based rather than a collection of "traditional" notions.
The first concrete goal is to not allow the Republicans to gain a majority in the Senate and to do away with the filibuster rules.
The second goal is to return the makeup of the Supreme into a non-partisan, honest, wise group of judges.
The third goal is to get started on the wealth disparity by upping the minimum wage to $15.00
Fourth: Revise the income tax structure demanding by law that the wealthiest individuals start paying a true, proportionate fair share. That would include a inheritance tax that not only helps balance gvt. expenses but takes away the family dynasty problem.
The Constitution should be revised to disallow the money from flowing only to the wealthy and to disallow using money to buy the politicians and judges.
Churches should not be allowed to retain tax free status while they are advocating political positions. The idea of Church Dominion must be squelched in order to retain a good Democratic Government.
Public Schools must be revived from 50 years of attacks by the Right Wing, who only wanted to destroy public education and replace it with the farcical private, i.e. religious and right wing schools of whites.
Government spying on Americans and other Nations must be brought under control.
The National infrastructure needs to be massively rebuilt with the added benefit of providing good paying jobs.
We should work with other Countries to revise the structure of the U.N. so that it might actually function as an effective World Body.
We should stop rubber stamping and equipping Israel. They've be a Nation long enough to make it on their own.
Keeping the environment healthy must always remain a top priority.
Americans need to get up to speed on the philosophy of humanism, applying it's best principles to the way we treat each other.
These are among the things that come to mind as realistic, achievable goals that would vastly improve the quality of life.
Veilex
(1,555 posts)That's pretty much the platform agreed upon by most on this website.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)I was attempting to prioritize the steps in order of the feasibility.
Veilex
(1,555 posts)I'd probably lump a few of those you enumerated together, but you'd get no argument out of me that they are important!
I'd say we're largely on the same page.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)And that grassroot effort needs to find a charismatic leader who can appeal to the masses.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)The big money people own the media, the politicians and the police.
The Supreme Court is the "head of the hydra". They are the ones allowing the money to buy elections, plus owning the media.
As long as the Supremes are Republican partisans, the will allow the big money to rule.
If the Pubs gain control of the Senate, it's going to be a long time before there will be any chance to improve the horrible political condition that now prevails.
If the Dems still hold the Senate, they've got to disallow the filibuster rules. Why they haven't done it when the could have remains a big mystery to me. (Probably, there are almost as many crooked Dems as there are Pubs).
ReRe
(10,597 posts)1) Get an AG who isn't beholding to the business community. 2) MoveToAmend to do away with Citizen's United. 3) Vote in a massive Democratic Majority into Congress and keep Democrats in the White House for the foreseeable future, in order to get unbiased fair Constitution-loving Justices onto the Supreme Court.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)donate, use the internets to spread the word, whatever you can do! It is the negative people who say it cannot be done that will be the reason it fails. More and more people are fed up with our political system and our entire society being controlled by these Plutocrats. They have many of the Judges, the media and the brainwashed and bought off police. They are prepared, but I think when this thing goes off they will go overboard and more people will realize that this ain't the America they thought it was!
This is not a Republican or Democratic issue, this is an issue for all. Nothing will happen substantially on climate change until we take the money out of politics!
Help spread the word and let Bernie know you are behind him because he has made PFE's his #1 issue! We can shock them all with numbers which will bring more politicians on board.
What are we here at DU for if not to make the changes to our country that need to be made? Please don't let me discover that this is nothing more than a good place to bitch among like thinking people!
ladjf
(17,320 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)In this sad day you have to go to a comedy network to get your TV news
The internet to get radio shows that aren't right wing hate shows
And a music magazine to get your political investigative magazine journalism (among a few others)
underpants
(182,803 posts)I'm sorry TAIBBI left
HelenWheels
(2,284 posts)It was very damaging but will not harm the Koch's. Although the Koch brothers do not lile publicity. One of them said, "Why do some people not like us?" Gee, I wonder.
samsingh
(17,598 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)tech3149
(4,452 posts)Three generations and counting of profiting from the killing of a nation.
ymetca
(1,182 posts)The Dutch immigrant with enough money to start his own right-wing printing press...
But the tale really goes further back.. to the Dutch East India Company --the world's first multinational corporation. The ideology of slavery and resource exploitation by those who dare is the absolute, highest tenet of becoming the "master of all I survey".
It's Secret Lodge stuff.
Notice how the propaganda machine is always key to the carrot-and-stick plot of bribing folks into the cabal of "movers and shakers", or else leaving them to the rabble, the "human resources" to be ruthlessly exploited. "Many are called, but few are chosen", and all that clap-trap. All grist for the horrible mill of the Master Class of "vintage trampling".
Or as Plarramom once mused, "when a species begins to devour itself it evolves".
tosh
(4,423 posts)LIGHT on the KochRoaches!
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)...journalists and a political party able & willing to get the message through to voters of who is beholden to the KBros and who is not, and how the next election will increase their power or start to hold them in check.
Without that next step, this is just one half of "fair and balanced reporting" and will get lost in the noise.
TRoN33
(769 posts)And still wondering why the hell Koch brothers aren't in jail? If I had done the same thing as Koch bros, I'd be in for life-sentence in prison.
America, oh my, God bless this country for the love of injustice and inequality in name of rich men! Oh America, oh my God I love this country!
Warpy
(111,259 posts)Charles Koch just might be the worst enemy this country has ever had.
LoisB
(7,206 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Corporations MUST be held LEGALLY and MORALLY responsible for their "externalities".
These asshat Koch brothers are just the tip of a very virulent iceberg and mentality...that way of thinking believers that the "owners" should be entitled to endless profits from any venture without ANY of the burdensome costs associated with depreciation, maintenance of infrastructure, waste or contamination removal and environmental impact.
They are scream like stuck pigs at the very notion of having to take less of the pie than they do, and god help us all if they were actually forced to only take their share on NET instead of GROSS revenue...somehow the idea that the owner's cut is a portion of gross take has been imbued into our collective thinking.
Change THAT, and you will solve climate change, rebuild the middle class, repair our infrastructure and make life on this planet a lot better for everyone.
red dog 1
(27,802 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts)Gonna look for a copy of the mag when we go out tonite, as I don't like reading long stuff on line. Ms Bigmack
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)by 25%" to save money after their merger with Amoco in 2002. In coming up with 4 budget proposals to address Amaco's rusty half shut down refinery, BP had one budget with a picture of a straw house next to it, the next with a stick house, brick house, and something called the impenatrable fortress. Under the Straw and Stick house budgets they estimated they would kill some workers as they were not fixing all of the most dangerous problems. Instead of throwing those out they decided to figure out, "How much $ will it cost to save our little piggies (cartoon picture of pigs) bacon, and how much will it cost if we don't save our little piggies?" They came up with $10 million, but that was to also cover their defense attorneys (self insured) and an ad budget to run commercials to rehab their image. They had a multimillion dollar ad budget and started the damage control within 2 hours of the explosion.
All because they didn't want to install a flare for 2 million that they had talked about doing from the beginning, but kept putting off. See, mid level managers are assigned different units and their bonuses, raises and promotions depended on how profitable their units were. The managers were reassigned every year or two. If they were profitable they moved up, if not they went down. If the pipe in your newly assigned units was too thin, did you have it replaced (very expensive) or patch it and leave the problem to the next guy?
This is also why BP ruined the Gulf of Mexico, they didn't learn!
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)online? When I was out today, I looked for the issue w/ the article but it was not on the news stand. Only an issue with Taylor Swift on the cover.
Veilex
(1,555 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)and after reading the article its clear they have their greedy tentacles in just about everything. Its like an obscene plot from a bad novel where these two oligarchs plan long term schemes to corrupt the government in an ongoing effort to create their own designer country... and it scares me that they will succeed.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)What a piece of journalism - should be required reading for all high school seniors this year. Doesn't matter what course - history, civics, English - our kids across the country need to read and digest this as they turn 18 and register to VOTE.
K&R
daleanime
(17,796 posts)K&R
and as always,
peace,
kp
FourScore
(9,704 posts)I'd "like" this one.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Just finished the article. What a comprehensive piece on the Kock Brothers!
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Guillotining would be far too good for them.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)I really enjoyed this article