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Excellent historic synopsis of how far Kansas has fallen under TPTB currently in Kansas and how/why. I was surprised about some of the latter comments about Paul Davis, running against Brownback for gov.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/sam-brownback-kansas-paul-davis
MuseRider
(34,139 posts)and I have not stopped giggling every time I see it since then.
Torches and Disc Harrows (?) <----Since I don't do that kind of farming my knowledge of the equipment used is lacking but it looks like a disc harrow to me.
So many articles, so little time. I absolutely love the story of Sam the Jesus man needing his state to auction off porn and sex toys to keep us afloat. How delicious is that?
Ahhh Ahhhh Kansas! The land of Ahhhhhhs.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)they will run them out of office!
MuseRider
(34,139 posts)is exactly why I think he may lose.
He says nothing and Jill, who is bright and an incredibly good speaker with a ton of ideas, has apparently been shoved aside and gagged. Davis is a coward so far, sadly. He will not commit to anything unless he sees it is already approved.
Anti Brownback may not be enough here. Even if Davis wins nothing good will get done. Our legislature may take a decade to change, holy cow you KNOW what they are up to and the Koch brothers will be sitting in the Senate presidents office often enough before those big votes to hand out the cash and threats. (that really makes me so angry I could slap someone who should know better than to allow that)
I can't get too excited either way. It would be fun to see Brownback put in his place, it would be great to see Roberts go. We now have a national presence of Republican strategists and I can't remember the Democrats ever being here like that so go figure. It will be hard to beat these guys money wise and strategy wise but we do have some very smart locals (the people who actually did the work to get Taylor to quit) who may shake things up. We can only hope. When you are such a minority and deal with a demographic with a voting record like we have with JC having 20% of the population it would be hard even with national support. We are spread mighty thin and Sam was a farm boy doncha know.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)MuseRider
(34,139 posts)this is just my opinion.
I really should stop. We have two choices really. Being in Kansas that is a good thing, many times there are not.
What I say, what my experience has been in any of this really does not matter.
If I did not have to live here and watch so many friends suffer from all of this, myself included but not nearly as much as it would be if I were younger, I would say let it burn. Like someone suggested, let it go. Let them have it and see where it ends up. We all know that it could and would get much worse before some of these knuckleheads would wake up.
Give Sam another 4 years and we will be up for sale. Welcome to the Union Kochistan! We may as well, they own us now anyway.
LOL I just read down the thread and see you said as much!! LOL!
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)The KC Star just has one editorial after another on the mess that he has created.
I really hope the independent he is running against wins. So far it looks like Brownback is behind.
Kansas people tend to be conservative. Lots of them are farm people. But I just can't believe they are as far to the right as this administration is. Especially the people in Johnson County. They are Republican but not right wing.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)and because that's what mom and dad it, and the preacher says to do. In JC they want to protect their money. Someone once described JC republicans as moderate country club republicans ... seems pretty good description IMO. There are many very nice people in KS, but they get propagandized so much.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)And they hold high level kind of jobs. And they pay a lot of attention to what's going on.
So many rural people just aren't that into politics. They have other priorities.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Something like this, they just need to step out of the way and let the Republicans run unopposed. Let them drive it further into the shitter. Because all that happens is if anyone else wins, they spend a few years cleaning it up and getting everything back on track again with a ton of opposition and vitriol against them, and then they get booted out of office to do it again.
It's unfortunate, but it feels like it really needs a catastrophic bottom-hitting event for people to get it through their heads what's wrong. But at the same time, that constant 28% of the electorate that will always vote Republican will never realize what's going on and just make it worse.
I'd just wipe my hands of it and move on elsewhere in terms of politics when it comes to Kansas. Let it be a blight and constant example of what the GOP wants to do everywhere.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)for another gov. term. If Davis wins, he'll inheriting such a mess it will be hard to dig out of it ... and the Koch republican machine will blame him for everything. Exactly as you say, then he would be out the next election and then they can change the name of KS to Kochland. It is just absolutely a horrible mess of a state.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Good article. I lived in Kansas for 18 years (1990-2008)in Overland Park, which is by and large a more moderate to liberal part of the state.
One huge problem with the state is mentioned in the article, the fact that if you're born there you're supposed to be a Republican automatically. Which means far to many Kansans simply vote for the candidate with the R after the name, rather than learning anything at all about what's going on. And many of them simply don't understand how vastly different the Republican Party is from what it was even, ten years ago, let ago fifty or more.
The other big problem, and the reason Dems will lose races they really ought to win this year, is that they almost never put in front of the voters the carnage that the Republicans have brought about. Such as, in this case with Kansas, the very real defunding of public schools. On a national level the success of the ACA should be front and center. There should be many ads showing someone who finally has health care and can now get treated for some disease. Stories like that. But I don't think we're seeing them.
Here in New Mexico we have a terrible Democratic candidate for Governor, and by terrible I mean he has no money, does not seem to be campaigning anywhere, and is the candidate only because in a five-way primary he had name recognition because his father was governor in the early 1990's. Our current Governor, Susanna Martinez, is widely despised at least in northern New Mexico where I live, and a good state-wide campaign against her would focus on how she's gutted education, and how here Secretary of Education, Hanna Skandera, one of those with zero background in education to begin with and imported here from Florida, has never been confirmed in that position. Lots of other state-wide issues, mainly connected to Martinez's cuddling up to big businesses like WalMart, could be used, but as noted above, the Dem has no money and Dems in general do not do a very good job of running on the issues.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)area, of course. That's what I think too, many are republican robots, they just auto-vote republican. And then as someone once told me, many think they are voting for Eisenhower type republicans, not getting what the republican party has morphed into today.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)is a Heart of Darkness. Huge fundamentalist churches. Lots of home schoolers. It had gotten scary by the time I moved away.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)one example. Olathe was certainly not moderate.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)Is it Olathe where they have their campus. Yea. There a lot of mega churches out that way. You are absolutely right.