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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:58 AM Sep 2014

This Republican Who Wants to End the Weekend Is Probably Headed to Congress


This Republican Who Wants to End the Weekend Is Probably Headed to Congress
Wisconsin state Sen. Glenn Grothman thinks days off are "goofy," says sex ed could make kids gay, and claims money is “more important for men."

—By Andy Kroll
| Fri Sep. 26, 2014 6:00 AM EDT



Glenn Grothman, a Republican state senator who is on track to be the next congressman from Wisconsin's sixth district, has never been shy about speaking his mind. He's a bomb thrower, a perpetual outrage machine for his liberal opponents, and a gift to the local and national press corps.

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Here is a round up of what might be called his greatest hits. Read them and remember that Grothman is likely headed to Congress.

Days off from work are "a little ridiculous": In January, Grothman proposed rolling back a Wisconsin law requiring employers to give workers at least one day of rest per week. He told the Huffington Post the existing state law was "a little goofy" and his proposal was about "freedom." "Right now in Wisconsin, you're not supposed to work seven days in a row, which is a little ridiculous because all sorts of people want to work seven days a week," he said.

Sex ed could turn kids gay: In 2010, Grothman, who believes that homosexuality is a choice, proposed banning Wisconsin public school teachers from mentioning homosexuality in sex education classes because some teachers had an "agenda" to turn kids gay.

Planned Parenthood is racist: In January 2013, Grothman appeared on Voice of Christian Youth America, an evangelical talk show, and he called Planned Parenthood "the most overtly racist organization." He said that Planned Parenthood has a pattern of "not liking people who are not white" and specifically targets Asian Americans for sex-selective abortions. (Planned Parenthood opposes sex-selective abortions.)

"Money is more important for men"
: After voting in 2011 to repeal Wisconsin's equal-pay protection law, Grothman argued that the male-female pay gap wasn't about discrimination in the workplace. "Take a hypothetical husband and wife who are both lawyers," he told the Daily Beast. "But the husband is working 50 or 60 hours a week, going all out, making 200 grand a year. The woman takes time off, raises kids, is not go go go. Now they're 50 years old. The husband is making 200 grand a year, the woman is making 40 grand a year. It wasn't discrimination. There was a different sense of urgency in each person." He added, "You could argue that money is more important for men. I think a guy in their first job, maybe because they expect to be a breadwinner someday, may be a little more money-conscious." (At a 2010 tea party rally, Grothman said, "In the long run, a lot of women like to stay at home and have their husbands be the primary breadwinner.&quot

People on food stamps don't act poor enough: In a 2004 op-ed calling for new restrictions on the federal food stamps program, Grothman outlined the extensive research that informed his position. "I've interviewed over a dozen people who check out people who pay with food stamps," he wrote, "and all felt people on food stamps ate better—or at least more costly—than they did." He also wrote: "Observations of people who work in food stores indicate that many people who use food stamps do not act as if they are genuinely poor."
"Many people who use food stamps do not act as if they are genuinely poor," Grothman wrote.

oh, yea, there's more...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-republican-congress-quotes
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This Republican Who Wants to End the Weekend Is Probably Headed to Congress (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2014 OP
Grothman is a dangerous idealogue. Here's the very good alternative ... Scuba Sep 2014 #1
Thanks. I was just asking for this. yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #6
Grothman is a water carrier for the Kochs and the point man for Walker warrant46 Sep 2014 #35
Grothman has got to be the stupidest person running for Congress. Pity his district is Rethug so Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #51
He's another reason Lifelong Protester Sep 2014 #2
Calling Louis Gohmert! Mister Louis Gohmert to the white courtesy telephone please! Turbineguy Sep 2014 #3
Louie is just a harmless buffoon compared to this asshole. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #38
Yet another republican demonic and demented creature! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #4
And let's hear about his Democratic opponent yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #5
Not easy at all; this is a bright red district. Here's the very good alternative ... Scuba Sep 2014 #10
So, let me see if I understand this... KansDem Sep 2014 #7
Also my first reaction. maddiemom Sep 2014 #29
Aw C'mon! Plucketeer Sep 2014 #36
So, he's against a 5 day work week and wants to go to Congress and only sinkingfeeling Sep 2014 #8
So, he's against a 5 day work week and wants to go to Congress and only AlbertCat Sep 2014 #30
By his reasoning... time-off is more important to Men berni_mccoy Sep 2014 #40
Is this really what the people of Wisconsin want to represent them? world wide wally Sep 2014 #9
You might be a republican onecaliberal Sep 2014 #11
What is really sad albino65 Sep 2014 #12
Good question. What's the matter with Wisconsin? Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #52
And this idiot is from Wisconsin? What kind of education does he have? jwirr Sep 2014 #13
All the poor people I personally know are already working 7 days a week Kalidurga Sep 2014 #14
"Acting Poor Enough?" maddiemom Sep 2014 #28
Thanks for that explaintion Kalidurga Sep 2014 #43
They were clearly recruited to the gay lifestyle. stillwaiting Sep 2014 #55
end the weekend for the serfs, expand it to 4 days every wk for Congress. librechik Sep 2014 #15
Looking forward to seeing him work seven days a week in DC FlatStanley Sep 2014 #16
I think you meant 7 days a month if you're talking about Congress. world wide wally Sep 2014 #17
But this guy I'm sure he'll walk the walk FlatStanley Sep 2014 #41
Hey, I'm tired of the complaints about how few days Congress is in session! Don't maddiemom Sep 2014 #32
You're right! I will try to do better. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #42
and Congress works 24/7 NightWatcher Sep 2014 #18
Why stop there, Grothman? Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #19
When you're right, you're right gratuitous Sep 2014 #31
Why is this monster allowed to breathe? nt valerief Sep 2014 #20
Who would vote for a person like this? blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #21
I despise right-wingers idea of "freedom". stillwaiting Sep 2014 #22
+1 million Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #53
Its freedum mb999 Sep 2014 #56
Exactly. Their idea of "freedom" is the exact opposite of what it really means. Initech Sep 2014 #57
I hope we can keep this fascist pig out of office! santamargarita Sep 2014 #23
I don't know what you're drinking up in Wisconsin these days, but if you send this guy to world wide wally Sep 2014 #24
Thanks, progressive Wisconsinites appreciate your support. Scuba Sep 2014 #39
People died fighting for the 5 day work week . Don't let their sacrifice be for naught ! lunasun Sep 2014 #25
Pretty extreme. EEO Sep 2014 #26
Why do so many oppose sex ed? Sex is one of the most important drivers of human behavior. tclambert Sep 2014 #27
It is seen as helping to impower women Johonny Sep 2014 #34
This guy and his 'credentials' are in desperate need of an EarlG pic. stevenleser Sep 2014 #33
Y'know, when Congress goes on these mammoth vacations.... AlbertCat Sep 2014 #37
Does this guy and his bat-shit crazy-talking colleagues really believe the shit they spew? MindPilot Sep 2014 #44
Actually, YES. They really believe government is to blame for EVERYTHING. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #47
"Money is more important for men" KamaAina Sep 2014 #45
I bet he's a darling of RW-Talk Radio. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #46
Well then the people who elect ellie Sep 2014 #48
GOPukers are a blight on humanity. Rex Sep 2014 #49
What an asshole!!! Don't give this guy even a micro ounce of power! Initech Sep 2014 #50
Headed to Congress where he will work a few months per year at most. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #54
I like him. He the sort of guy we need to turn America around and Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #58
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. Grothman is a dangerous idealogue. Here's the very good alternative ...
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:01 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.harrisforwisconsin.com/

On edit: I met Mark last weekend and I was impressed. He's the real deal.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
35. Grothman is a water carrier for the Kochs and the point man for Walker
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:54 PM
Sep 2014

He is more than just dangerous. He is the most right wing ideologue EVER to come out of Wisconsin.

The sad fact is this district is so gerrymandered it will always be Repuke no matter what ever happens

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
51. Grothman has got to be the stupidest person running for Congress. Pity his district is Rethug so
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:11 PM
Sep 2014

he'll win anyway.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
2. He's another reason
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:01 AM
Sep 2014

why the state of Wisconsin will need to give an apology to you all (Paul Ryan is another, so is Scott Walker). Grothman called the protesters in Madison (during the Act 10 protest) "Slobs".

Turbineguy

(37,329 posts)
3. Calling Louis Gohmert! Mister Louis Gohmert to the white courtesy telephone please!
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:02 AM
Sep 2014

Some competition coming your way!

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. Not easy at all; this is a bright red district. Here's the very good alternative ...
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:26 AM
Sep 2014

http://www.harrisforwisconsin.com/

I met Mark last weekend and I was impressed. He's the real deal.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
7. So, let me see if I understand this...
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:22 AM
Sep 2014

The GOP wants you working seven days in a row, but then it wants you going to church like a good Christian? Isn't there something in Christian doctrine about keeping the Sabbath holy?

Oh, wait! Working on Sunday to make Richie Rich richer is holy!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
36. Aw C'mon!
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:56 PM
Sep 2014

Most churches are open late enough that you could attend after your 12-hour work shift on Sundays. And even if there IS NO time and a half, you'll have a bit more for the collection plate!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
30. So, he's against a 5 day work week and wants to go to Congress and only
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:47 PM
Sep 2014

work less than 6 months?


I think it just needs repeating


work less than 6 months?
work less than 6 months?
work less than 6 months?
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work less than 6 months?
work less than 6 months? work less than 6 months?
work less than 6 months? work less than 6 months?


(Perhaps he thinks "we" are somehow different from him. I thought an aristocracy was abhorrent to the USA)

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
40. By his reasoning... time-off is more important to Men
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:02 PM
Sep 2014

like him, which isn't like being a man at all, but a child who wants everything his way.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
11. You might be a republican
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:38 AM
Sep 2014

If you want Main Street Americans working 7 days a week for peanuts when you want to go to Congress and work less than 1 day a week for more than a hundred thousand and full benefits for life on the taxpayers dime.
These people are everything wrong with this country.

 

albino65

(484 posts)
12. What is really sad
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:50 AM
Sep 2014

Is that he gets elected. Wisconsin in the good days was a bastion for progressiveness and liberalism. I spent a lot of time there and in Minnesota. The people were good and life was good. From where did the creeps that elect these people come?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
14. All the poor people I personally know are already working 7 days a week
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:06 AM
Sep 2014

most of them also have a second job. Some of them are also going to college (but no second job the lazy bums), none of them get food stamps, but they probably don't act poor enough for Grothman why I know one that eats out several days a week. I know another that goes to a movie almost every week (not the week-end she's usually working those days).

As for sex-ed turning people gay. I don't know any older gay people who had all inclusive sex-ed, so what made them gay?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
28. "Acting Poor Enough?"
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:39 PM
Sep 2014

There used to be a term. "genteel poverty.' I believe it meant people who came from "good," formerly wealthy families, who now had very little money to live on. There is definitely a new kind of "genteel poverty" today. These days it might be better termed "well educated." or "used to better days" poverty. These are the many people who are well educated, well spoken, and present themselves well... but are pretty much "broke" financially, regardless of their desire to work. Quality clothes wear well, and amazing bargains in terms of such clothes are readily available at Goodwill, for those not too snobbish to search them out. For those who prefer those needing and using "assistance," most publicly recognized in terms of "food stamps," to be the ragged, maybe dirty people they expect to see: sorry, times have changed. This doesn't mean help isn't sadly needed for more and more deserving citizens.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
43. Thanks for that explaintion
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:44 PM
Sep 2014

Oddly enough I think my family of origin acted poor enough, but my mom and dad wouldn't apply for assistance as long as there was fish in the lake and handmedowns and that kind of thing from my mom's family. I agree times have changed. The places where I have worked/work is nearly minimum wage or a couple dollars higher and nearly everyone has some college up to a BA. A couple ladies had their own businesses that went under during the recession. I don't know any lazy poor people or people who act poor in the ragged dirty uneducated fashion.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
15. end the weekend for the serfs, expand it to 4 days every wk for Congress.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:08 AM
Sep 2014

They need the time to plan their long vacations.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
32. Hey, I'm tired of the complaints about how few days Congress is in session! Don't
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:48 PM
Sep 2014

all those critics realize how HARD they work to get themselves reelected. It's also pretty exhausting to have to spend all that time kissing those wealthy donor asses. This is a pretty much full time career. Also the main reason we'll never see the campaign finance reform that we so badly need.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
19. Why stop there, Grothman?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:38 AM
Sep 2014

We might as well be working 24 hours a day in addition to 7 days a week! Forget sleep, forget going home, forget family, forget eating, forget bathing, forget leisure! The less time we have for those things, the more time we could put towards working and making the business as successful as possible! Ammi right?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
31. When you're right, you're right
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:47 PM
Sep 2014

Some people might want to be on the clock literally 24-7, which in Grothman's mind makes it imperative that everyone has to do that. Sure, some of you might not want to work seven days a week, but then that will quickly mean that you can't earn enough to live on, because wages will be set so for the benefit of only the most zealous, dedicated, Type A personalities. If that's not you, then you don't "deserve" a living wage.

Is that crazy talk? Well, my observation from my entire working career going back to 1980 is that I am expected to work more hours more efficiently to generate Wealth for the economy, but none of that increased Wealth makes it back to my pocket in the form of higher wages. American workers must work more, and work more efficiently, for less and less money. I don't remember when workers were asked to sign on to this hare-brained scheme, but since it's been the Iron Law of Wages for the past 35 years, we must have approved of it somewhere along the line. Grothman is just continuing a noble tradition.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
22. I despise right-wingers idea of "freedom".
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:10 PM
Sep 2014

Basically, it's freedom for the 1%, the wealthy elite, to do whatever they want to everybody else.

The result is that the 99% (at the very least 90%) are forced to lead shittier and shittier lives, but they expect for us to believe THAT makes us "free".

It's fucking Orwellian.

Their absolute contempt for the working class and poor is despicable.

mb999

(89 posts)
56. Its freedum
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:54 AM
Sep 2014

Repigs won't be happy until we are forced to work for free. They clamor for "personal responsibility" but say nothing about corporate responsibility.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
57. Exactly. Their idea of "freedom" is the exact opposite of what it really means.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 01:41 PM
Sep 2014

They hate freedom. They would be happier under a fascist, plutocratic theocracy that caters to the billionaires and treats us as blind, submissive religious slaves. Fuck that idea of "freedom".

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
24. I don't know what you're drinking up in Wisconsin these days, but if you send this guy to
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:29 PM
Sep 2014

Washington to write the laws of our country, I can only hope that you secede along with Texas.
And beyond that, I will also add a new sentiment regarding your state...fuck the Packers.

Just chew on that for a while.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
25. People died fighting for the 5 day work week . Don't let their sacrifice be for naught !
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:31 PM
Sep 2014
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day

They get more freakish as they mutate what happened to their fun die slant ? Free market talk now trumps the Sabbath and Sunday ?

Probably
I have heard too much of this talk now in the same demo areas that used to get 'saved' 20 years ago.

Propaganda against living wage and workers rights is succeeding bought up by folks who are greedy and don't mind workplace rights They are joined by mass people who are looking to hate and abuse ( worker. ) even if there is no financial gain for them just for smugs

During the 1870s, eight hours became a central demand, especially among labor organizers, with a network of Eight-Hour Leagues which held rallies and parades. A hundred thousand workers in New York City struck and won the eight-hour day in 1872, mostly for building trades workers. In Chicago, Albert Parsons became recording secretary of the Chicago Eight-Hour League in 1878, and was appointed a member of a national eight-hour committee in 1880.

At its convention in Chicago in 1884, the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions resolved that "eight hours shall constitute a legal day's labour from and after May 1, 1886, and that we recommend to labour organizations throughout this jurisdiction that they so direct their laws as to conform to this resolution by the time named."

The leadership of the Knights of Labor, under Terence V. Powderly, rejected appeals to join the movement as a whole, but many local Knights assemblies joined the strike call including Chicago, Cincinnati and Milwaukee. On May 1, 1886, Albert Parsons, head of the Chicago Knights of Labor, with his wife Lucy Parsons and two children, led 80,000 people down Michigan Avenue, Chicago, in what is regarded as the first modern May Day Parade, in support of the eight-hour day. In the next few days they were joined nationwide by 350,000 workers who went on strike at 1,200 factories, including 70,000 in Chicago, 45,000 in New York, 32,000 in Cincinnati, and additional thousands in other cities. Some workers gained shorter hours (eight or nine) with no reduction in pay; others accepted pay cuts with the reduction in hours.
On May 3, 1886, August Spies, editor of the Arbeiter-Zeitung (Workers Newspaper), spoke at a meeting of 6,000 workers, and afterwards many of them moved down the street to harass strikebreakers at the McCormick plant in Chicago.

The police arrived, opened fire, and killed four people, wounding many more.

At a subsequent rally on May 4 to protest this violence, a bomb exploded at the Haymarket Square.

Hundreds of labour activists were rounded up and the prominent labour leaders arrested, tried, convicted, and executed giving the movement its first martyrs.

Re: the hangings

On June 26, 1893 Illinois Governor John Peter Altgeld set the remaining leader free, and granted full pardons to all those tried claiming they were innocent of the crime for which they had been tried and the hanged men had been the victims of "hysteria, packed juries and a biased judge".

EEO

(1,620 posts)
26. Pretty extreme.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:35 PM
Sep 2014

The Bible says people should not work on Sunday. This guy is all over the place and a fanatic who can't stay consistent to his alleged deeply held religious beliefs. Jackass. And a bunch of jackasses will vote for him.

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
27. Why do so many oppose sex ed? Sex is one of the most important drivers of human behavior.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:38 PM
Sep 2014

Yet many think we should actively cultivate ignorance of this important topic. Never, never talk about it. Don't read any books about it. Don't take any classes in school about it. Rely only on stupid animal urges. Nature will give you all the knowledge about it you need to know. The result is everybody worries they might be perverts. But they don't really know the definition of pervert because where would they learn it?

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
34. It is seen as helping to impower women
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:53 PM
Sep 2014

They'd rather woman stay home barefoot and pregnant. In places with sex education the birth rate goes down because young woman are educated in how they can get pregnant and what they can do to prevent it. Funny enough things like abortion and sexually transmitted disease rates go down too but hey at least they've protected their loose sense of what makes a man a man.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
37. Y'know, when Congress goes on these mammoth vacations....
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:57 PM
Sep 2014

..... why don't Dems STAY and do some work....what they can.... And make a big deal out of it. Be very very visible that they are still there doing SOMETHING.

Oh sure, they cannot pass legislation, but that can (visibly) work on concocting bills, or preparing for when the GOP finally return (to pretend to be working).

For all I know they may already do this....except no one hears or sees it. They need to somehow be up front about staying and working a real work schedule.


I know....it's hard to get a message across in the Right Wing media that dominates these days. The entire Dem Congressional Reps could be out paving roads and fixing pot holes and Wolfie Blitzer would say a word about it.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
44. Does this guy and his bat-shit crazy-talking colleagues really believe the shit they spew?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:54 PM
Sep 2014

I have a tough time believing that anybody is actually that ignorant.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
48. Well then the people who elect
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:08 PM
Sep 2014

him should lose their weekends/days off. The rest of us should be left alone.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
49. GOPukers are a blight on humanity.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:09 PM
Sep 2014

I bet that asshole has never worked an honest day in his life!

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
58. I like him. He the sort of guy we need to turn America around and
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:48 AM
Sep 2014

make it into a John Galt paradise. A technological Somalia.

A dystopian utopia.

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