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craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:20 PM Sep 2014

Is it time to repeal the 22nd Amendment?

Let's face it the revolutionary generation didn't have all the answers and George Washington didn't like being president in the first place. The whole reason why we have this amendment in the first place is because republicans were afraid of another FDR coming to power. The only president this amendment actually affected was Clinton who probably could've beat bush in 2000. Other countries run just fine with allowing premiers staying in for decades. Eventually they will lose an election or their party will turn on them. That's just my two cents what say you?

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Is it time to repeal the 22nd Amendment? (Original Post) craigmatic Sep 2014 OP
Yep. Voters know best. -- Even when they don't know. immoderate Sep 2014 #1
Consider we'd have had another 10 years of daddy Bush and Nancy Reagan Warpy Sep 2014 #24
Any system can go awry. It's a matter of who bears responsibility. immoderate Sep 2014 #39
The term limits allows policiticians to "play the clock" DontTreadOnMe Sep 2014 #2
Good point. "Running out the clock" is always (or nearly always) an issue during second terms. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #7
No SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #3
What, you didn't want a third Reagan term? Cayenne Sep 2014 #13
I'm assuming you forgot the sarcasm smiley n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #16
Clinton would have mopped the floor with Bush caraher Sep 2014 #4
We would have had 23 years of fucking Reagan even as he slowly turned into a vegetable. CBGLuthier Sep 2014 #5
No way. Brigid Sep 2014 #6
That's also a very valid point. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #8
I would postulate . . . Brigid Sep 2014 #12
Bush wouldn't have beaten Clinton and would geek tragedy Sep 2014 #17
I don't know unless Huffington Post tells me what to think because I'm a...... NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #9
I think there are good arguments to be made one way or the other. So in the end, I'm neutral. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #10
I would oppose the repeal of the 22nd amendment to my dying breath. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #11
Our thoughts are similar edgineered Sep 2014 #15
No. 2 terms is enough still_one Sep 2014 #14
I'm fine with letting the voters decide Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #18
Reagan would have won in 1988, possibly even 1992. tritsofme Sep 2014 #19
I would like to see one 6 year term Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #20
Great ideas SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #21
I like this idea. Brigid Sep 2014 #23
That too has it's drawbacks davidpdx Sep 2014 #30
We would end up with a Cheney for life Generic Other Sep 2014 #22
Only if that's what the people want. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #27
Hanging chads, voting machines, Dieboldt Generic Other Sep 2014 #28
Were Obama's victories legitimate? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #29
Don't ask me Generic Other Sep 2014 #32
i trust the people but not the system. spanone Sep 2014 #25
I would like it changed to one 6yr term. nt CK_John Sep 2014 #26
I answered this one above as well to someone else davidpdx Sep 2014 #31
No.... 8 years is plenty. devils chaplain Sep 2014 #33
I'd like to see a six term with a public option on a second jaysunb Sep 2014 #34
"The whole reason why we have this amendment..." Boreal Sep 2014 #35
well since this is not about the 2nd amendment Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #37
Oh, no! Boreal Sep 2014 #38
Nnnnnnope. TERM LIMITS FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS. ONE IN, ONE OUT. Then you can run again. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #36
The short answer is NO. badtoworse Sep 2014 #40

Warpy

(114,585 posts)
24. Consider we'd have had another 10 years of daddy Bush and Nancy Reagan
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:04 PM
Sep 2014

running the country while they used Disney's anitmatronic Reagan for speeches.

It can work both ways, in other words.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
39. Any system can go awry. It's a matter of who bears responsibility.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:46 AM
Sep 2014

If it's on the people, they have less reason to revolt.

--imm

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
2. The term limits allows policiticians to "play the clock"
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:25 PM
Sep 2014

They use the term limit in both good and bad ways, but mainly against a sitting President. In the last two years of any President's term, they try to put off any votes until the next election.

If there was the threat that the President might STILL BE THERE, it would eliminate the "playing the clock" game in Washington.

i see no problems with a President serving 3 terms.. especially if the voters want it.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
7. Good point. "Running out the clock" is always (or nearly always) an issue during second terms. n/t
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:38 PM
Sep 2014

caraher

(6,359 posts)
4. Clinton would have mopped the floor with Bush
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:28 PM
Sep 2014

On the other hand, would Reagan have gone for a third term? For his handlers, his diminishing mental faculties may have been a plus, and I don't think Dukakis would have fared well given his epic failure against the Poppy Bush (far less "charismatic" than Reagan).

I think W was just happy to be done. In a lot of ways the limit is a blessing to the holder of office... Obama might also be pleased, in some ways, to know his job is done come January 2017, and happy to get part of his life back. FDR was probably an aberration in his embrace of the office.

Overall, I've always felt the best "term limits" are those determined by voters at the ballot box...

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
5. We would have had 23 years of fucking Reagan even as he slowly turned into a vegetable.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:32 PM
Sep 2014

American voters are kind of stupid. We need term limits for all national offices not none of them.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
6. No way.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:37 PM
Sep 2014

I barely survived eight years of Bush with my sanity, knowing that we would be rid of him at the end of his second term no matter what. How many of us counted the days?

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
12. I would postulate . . .
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:43 PM
Sep 2014

That only the knowledge that there would be a definite end to Bush's regime prevented outright riots after the Ielection of 2004.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. I don't know unless Huffington Post tells me what to think because I'm a......
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:39 PM
Sep 2014

Back it up with Kardashian Kreds or some Snookie Swoop!


nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
10. I think there are good arguments to be made one way or the other. So in the end, I'm neutral. n/t
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:39 PM
Sep 2014
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. I would oppose the repeal of the 22nd amendment to my dying breath.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:41 PM
Sep 2014

8 years is plenty for an office elected nationwide.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
15. Our thoughts are similar
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:45 PM
Sep 2014

Both of us seem to be in support of expanding the 22nd to include all politically seated positions.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. I'm fine with letting the voters decide
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:52 PM
Sep 2014

if they want the president to serve a third or fourth term.

tritsofme

(19,886 posts)
19. Reagan would have won in 1988, possibly even 1992.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:55 PM
Sep 2014

Scarier yet, even as he continued to be ravaged by Alzheimer's, he could have even been pushed toward a 1996 bid.

Regardless of that situation, I think 8 years is enough for one person. Too much power has accumulated to the modern presidency to allow a man to wield it indefinitely.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
20. I would like to see one 6 year term
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:01 PM
Sep 2014

Run on campaign promises then you get 6 years to try to fulfill them. A president won't waste a year of his first term campaigning, won't need lobbiest (since they will never run again) and has the freedom to make the tough choices.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. That too has it's drawbacks
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:33 PM
Sep 2014

Here in Korea, the president serves a single 5 year term. I personally think that is too long to go without having a say in who leads our country. Also with a constitutionally limited single term running for reelection is not an option.

Generic Other

(29,080 posts)
22. We would end up with a Cheney for life
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:02 PM
Sep 2014

Come on people! It's the only power we have over the bastards.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
27. Only if that's what the people want.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:21 PM
Sep 2014

Remember, they were done with George Bush Sr after a single term.

Generic Other

(29,080 posts)
28. Hanging chads, voting machines, Dieboldt
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:26 PM
Sep 2014

Butterfly ballot, recounts, voter ID, felon lists, purges, SCOTUS decisions...right, just what the people want...

Generic Other

(29,080 posts)
32. Don't ask me
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:38 PM
Sep 2014

He sure told a whole lot of whoppers as far as I can see. And some people might consider that fraud.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. I answered this one above as well to someone else
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:34 PM
Sep 2014

Here in Korea, the president serves a single 5 year term. I personally think that is too long to go without having a say in who leads our country. Also with a constitutionally limited single term running for reelection is not an option.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
34. I'd like to see a six term with a public option on a second
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:54 PM
Sep 2014

shorter time, like two or four years.

Public option meaning the voters would be allowed to have a referendum in the fifth year on granting the ability to be on the ballot again.

With all the complexities of the modern office, I can't think of any one--other than maybe Clinton--that would want to offer themselves up for the job.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
35. "The whole reason why we have this amendment..."
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:17 AM
Sep 2014

Huh? The 2nd amendment has nothing do with Republicans or FDR.

I don't like guns, have never owned one, but support the right of the people to keep and bear arms for the reasons that the Founders did.

Disarm police and military (the mass murderers in the world) and then we can talk.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
37. well since this is not about the 2nd amendment
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:51 AM
Sep 2014

but the 22nd, you might want to revise your comment.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
38. Oh, no!
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:55 AM
Sep 2014

haha, my (very) bad, lol! I think it's time for me to go to bed.

(I still want the military and police disarmed, though).

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