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http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.htmlThe idea that a man who's been trying to convert others to Islam ends up beheading someone is alarming enough, but perhaps even more given what has been happening in the Middle East.
The Islamist extremist group ISIS has made a name for its itself using such tactics, going so far as to record the beheadings of American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff as well as British aid worker David Haines.
And they've threatened more to come, especially if the United States and its allies continue to launch airstrikes at the group in Iraq and Syria. This has spurred concerns that ISIS sympathizers may similarly lash out against innocents in the West.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)will have an effect on one or two unstable people.
But I think there is also a hypnosis element, perhaps through videos on social media, that may affect impressionable people and literally brainwash them.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)its all MSM propaganda.
and they think we are all...
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I'm talking about the MSM propaganda on people in the West.
I don't know why the jihadis do it but again I think it has something to do with how they are radicalized. One technique was to show them videos of atrocities carried out by the west to make them angry, demonize westerners and ultimately dehumanize the enemy.
By popularizing atrocity videos the MSM could be accused of doing the same thing to us. IMO the sensationalism is irresponsible.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)A Yemen is heating up again.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)maced666
(771 posts)Obviously heads rolling across the floor aren't getting your attention. Nice perfect fantasy world life, say hi to the flying goats for me!
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)which is either a copycat killing by someone unstable or exposure to jihadi propaganda which has made someone mentally unstable.
These people who become jihadis usually undergo indoctrination as I mentioned before.
Talking about the cause of something is not denying it happened or excusing it.
For example, whenever there's a mass shooting it can be by someone who is mentally unstable or for personal, religious or political reasons.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)be desperate, they even played The Terror Mall film again....aiding and abetting terrorism is what the major media are doing....to sell war the major media and ISIS are allies.
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)He does have himself giving the Isis salute with the index finger up and he is portrayed with the mosque members who denied knowing him.
Looks like he may have been inspired by Isis but it was triggered by a workplace event so the connection cannot be made much as it would sell newspapers.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)he was a true believer.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)to find someone to behead as a lesson to their enemies. Now we find out this man is trying to convert others to Islam. But what type of Islam? This is no doubt why they are giving it further investigation.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)whoa.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)the jihadi propaganda has been openly all over social media for years and allowed to proliferate.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)not be moved to obey the calling. This is a different time - ISIS is more anti world than any group I have seen.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Countries where Rupert Murdoch's News Corp has a big presence, neocons have a strong influence and islamic extremism is politically advantageous for RW and conservative parties.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)in Australia to pull someone off the street in two cities (Sydney & Canberra, perhaps), video their beheading and then release the video.
This guy may have been inspired by ISIS to a degree, but it looks like it was being fired that was the real trigger.
If/when ISIS decides to start the beheadings here, I believe it will be like the plot discovered in Australia. Someone will disappear on their way home from work or school or shopping, and a few days later, a video will surface of the beheading.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)mean that we take their threat seriously.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)The likelihood of being pulled off the street and beheaded in an empty warehouse is infinitesimally small. But I have no doubt whatsoever that someone will lose even with those odds, and that it will happen here.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)"Whilst it is too early to speculate on what the motive behind this attack was I am confident, based on the information currently available to me, that it is not terrorist related."
Yeah sure...and 9/11 wasn't either.
ooooooooga booooooga ?
sarcasm
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)but has it occurred to any one that as a former felon he could not obtain a gun? Or at least not very easily.
As a matter of fact we can be grateful for that alone.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)ISIL called for a beheading and it appears they got one.
To quote someone on the internet....who implies this could NEVER happen in the US
"Terra, Terra, Terra"