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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:35 PM Sep 2014

Curmudgucation: Directory of Anti-Teacher Trolls

From Peter Greene at Curmudgucation blog.

This was posted after the anti-tenure for teachers ruling in California.

If there is any group that has been emboldened by the California court's fact-free finding against teacher job protections, it has been the legion of anti-teacher trolls. From mainstreamish media like Slate to the usual bloggy outposts, teacher bashing trollery is in high gear.


Directory of Anti-Teacher Trolls

Just a few, more at the link.


"Those Damn Unions" Troll

It's the damn teachers union. Teachers all want to go sleep at their desks because the union will protect them. The union does nothing but protect bad teachers. In fact, the union actually goes out, recruits bad teachers, and then cleverly forces administrations to give these crappy teachers tenure. The union also elected Obama President, and they have the power to bend all elected officials to their will (except for Rand Paul). Union leaders have a giant pile of money that they like to swim in a la Scrooge McDuck; they use it to buy all the elections and all the power.

Teacher Hater Troll

Teachers are the single biggest obstacle to education today. They are only in it for the power and the glory. Well, no-- they also became teachers because they knew that would put them in the best position to interfere with the education of American students, which is every teacher's goal. Teachers hate children, and they hate learning, so they become teachers so they can devote their entire lives to destroying those things. It's perfectly logical.

Race To The Bottom Troll

The guy who cooks the fries at McDonalds does not have tenure or make any more than minimum wage or get vacations, so neither should teachers. The guy who dropped out of school in tenth grade and now works part-time at Mega-Mart doesn't have job security, and he barely makes enough to pay his cellphone bill, so why should teachers not have to struggle, too? There are employers in this country who force their workers to toil in unconscionable conditions; why should we fight to improve those conditions when we can fight to drag teachers down to that crappy level instead.

...Like A Business Troll

You know, in every other job, you get judged on your performance and then rewarded or fired accordingly. Personally, I would have been a useless lazy bastard at my job except that my boss was always looking over my shoulder. People suck unless you threaten them. Nobody threatens teachers enough; that's why they all suck. All the best businesses like, you know, big investment banks like Lehman Brothers or energy companies like Enron-- those totally function on accountability.



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Curmudgucation: Directory of Anti-Teacher Trolls (Original Post) madfloridian Sep 2014 OP
You forgot the Troll who likes to accuse other posters of being Trolls. 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #1
Cute response. madfloridian Sep 2014 #2
Just kidding, I really enjoyed your post. 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #3
Please everyone notice the reference to DU! femmocrat Sep 2014 #4
.... madfloridian Sep 2014 #5
The BOG is world famous! BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #8
+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #22
People think their behavior here has no consequences. Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #25
Very true. madfloridian Sep 2014 #26
Unlikely Anecdote Troll madfloridian Sep 2014 #6
Or they taught that the earth revolves around the sun! BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #7
+1000 wcast Sep 2014 #14
This one is my favorite wcast Sep 2014 #13
My fave! Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #19
Hear a lot of them lately. madfloridian Sep 2014 #20
+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #24
K&R. I always love your posts madfloridian. liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #9
so true......and then there is the bbgrunt Sep 2014 #10
I feel much better for reading that Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #11
I especially loved the Fake Statistic Troll....lots of that going around. madfloridian Sep 2014 #12
OMG!!!!! WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2014 #15
I thought this was going to be a directory of DU posters. roody Sep 2014 #16
Oh, yeah, definitely against the rules. madfloridian Sep 2014 #17
Sad Bitter Memories Troll LWolf Sep 2014 #18
And take their tenure away asap! madfloridian Sep 2014 #27
Thank you for this. There is a tendency to see these same patterns over and over again. Wella Sep 2014 #21
Yes, he did a great job of categorizing them accurately. Now I will lol .... madfloridian Sep 2014 #23
Great. Just laugh at them. Wella Sep 2014 #28
I agree. madfloridian Sep 2014 #29
I think Hater Troll is redundant. Rex Sep 2014 #30
Well that got my blood moving this morning Generic Other Sep 2014 #31

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
4. Please everyone notice the reference to DU!
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:45 PM
Sep 2014

It is by "Unknown" on June 16, 2014:

then there's the "If you all keep complaining about Obama, you're all going to hell" troll (they usually live on DemocraticUnderground and similar sites and just cannot understand how teachers could possibly be upset with Obama).




This article is a masterpiece!! Thank you, madfloridian!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
25. People think their behavior here has no consequences.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:14 AM
Sep 2014

The owners of the website treat this as an entertainment site and don't think the abuse that anti-teacher trolls (as well as many others) mete out, has real world effects.

It does.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
26. Very true.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:39 AM
Sep 2014

That is the very reason that serious discussions take place here less and less. Some of us did long researched posts that disappeared quickly or brought attacks.

Well said, your words describe it well now.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. Unlikely Anecdote Troll
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:57 PM
Sep 2014

Unlikely Anecdote Troll

There was this one teacher in the town just over from where I went to school, and one day he brought in a nine millimeter machine gun and mowed down every kid in his first three classes. The principal was going to fire him, but the union said he couldn't because of tenure, so that guy just kept working there. They even put kids in his class who were related to the ones he shot. Tenure has to be made illegal right away.

wcast

(595 posts)
13. This one is my favorite
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 03:45 PM
Sep 2014

It's amazing how often this one shows up on DU whenever there is a post about education.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
10. so true......and then there is the
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 03:16 PM
Sep 2014

republican voting teacher. s/he doesn't really have to actively troll. They are trolls just by existing.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
12. I especially loved the Fake Statistic Troll....lots of that going around.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 03:26 PM
Sep 2014
Fake Statistic Troll

It's a known fact that 63% of teachers failed high school shop class, and 43% are unable to even dress themselves. If you have a bad teacher in Kindergarten, it's a proven fact that you will make $1 trillion dollars less in life; also, you'll be plagued with adolescent acne until you're 34, and your children will be ugly. 92% of high school graduates last year were unable to read, and 46% of those were unable to even identify the English language. Also, 143% of urban teachers are "highly ineffective" and 52% of those are "grossly ineffective" and 24% of those actually give off waves that cause metal surfaces to rust. I ask you, how can we continue to support public education under these conditions.




WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
15. OMG!!!!!
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 04:13 PM
Sep 2014

I really couldn't make myself read all of these. I got as far as "They are only in it for the power and the glory" and damn near choked. Yes. Power and glory. That's EXACTLY why I went into one of the least respected, underpaid, and most stress-filled careers in this country. And I'll be willing to bet my next month's salary that the person who wrote that is the reason classroom management can be a nightmare...that person was in all likelihood a complete pain in the ass in a classroom.

Of course there are bad teachers, just like there are bad lawyers, doctors, clergy, politicians (especially!), or any other occupation out there. But these jerks who think we are allowed to sleep at our desks, etc. are simply being willfully stupid. Here in Nevada (and probably everywhere else), we are subject to a "hard" observation (supervisor in the classroom for the entire class period) a minimum of 3 times a year, with a "soft" one (supervisor stops in, spends 5 or 10 minutes) usually an average of another 4 or 5 times. And there is NO warning...they just show up. The "hard" observations result in a written evaluation that goes into your file, and everything, from your lesson plans, how you have your daily agenda written out on the board, your classroom management skills, the kid's responses and involvement, and whether or not your grade book is up to date is taken into consideration. I didn't catch a kid using his cellphone in class once and it was in that report. The kind of teachers that these people talk about simply would not make it in today's teaching atmosphere. It seems to me that these morons have seen the movie "Bad Teacher" once too often, and thought it was a documentary. And of course, comparing a highly trained, college-educated professional with a kid in an entry level position flipping hamburgers is in a class by itself. Can anyone name any other situation your kids will experience where everyone they deal with has at least a Bachelor's Degree?

We do what we do because we love the kids, and hate ignorance. Too bad these idiots didn't take advantage of this when they were in school.

Thanks for your patience, folks. I feel better now.

roody

(10,849 posts)
16. I thought this was going to be a directory of DU posters.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 04:19 PM
Sep 2014

I guess that would be against the rules. Gotta go to school now on Saturday afternoon to prepare first grade homework.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
18. Sad Bitter Memories Troll
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:17 PM
Sep 2014

I hated high school. My teachers were mean to me. I remember a couple who picked on me all the time just because I didn't do my work and slept in class a lot. And boy, they did a crappy job of teaching me anything. I sat in their classroom like a houseplant at least three days a week, and I didn't learn a thing. Boy, did they suck! Crappy teachers like that ought to be fired immediately! And that principal who yelled at me for setting fire to the library? That guy never liked me. Fire 'em all.
 

Wella

(1,827 posts)
21. Thank you for this. There is a tendency to see these same patterns over and over again.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 10:35 PM
Sep 2014

It's nice to know that they are somehow centralized.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
23. Yes, he did a great job of categorizing them accurately. Now I will lol ....
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:31 AM
Sep 2014

whenever I see one from those categories.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. I think Hater Troll is redundant.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:03 PM
Sep 2014

Teacher Trolls seem to hate education (and anyone working in that field), because they never finished school or earned a GED. Bill Gates strikes me as a rich Teacher Troll. So does Arne Duncan. Lot of Teacher Trolls push for private education and home schooling.

FWIOIRL.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
31. Well that got my blood moving this morning
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:39 PM
Sep 2014

Thanks Mad! Kicked, rec'd, bookmarked, forwarded, and re-posted on FB...

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