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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:33 PM Sep 2014

Cuomo: Still won't cater to teachers' union. Says he doesn't need their endorsement.

He's planning on treating teachers and other employees the same as before. In 2010 he and his running mate announced they would take on public employee unions....and they did.

"What the Democratic Party is all about is growth and change," Cuomo said. "It's a new day. There are new problems that need new approaches. And that is what's meant by the new Democratic Party."

.."One change from the "old" Democratic party seems to be the willingness of Cuomo and his running mate Robert Duffy to take on a powerful constituency -- the public employee unions. Duffy has battled with union leaders in Rochester over some of his controversial proposals, including his call for more control of city schools. Cuomo says he respects that.

"Yes, he tangled with public employee unions," Cuomo said. "Guess what, we're going to be tangling with public employee unions going forward."


AND he's going to do it again when re-elected. He's proud of his stance against public employee unions.

Cuomo: No Shift In Treatment Of Teachers In Second Term

From State of Politics:


Asked about whether he’s shifting his tactics post-primary, Cuomo said he wouldn’t change his approach to public workers and teachers labor organizations.

“I knew what I was doing when I did not cater to the teachers union. I didn’t have to take the endorsement of the teachers union the first time, by the way.”


He's probably right. He apparently doesn't need teachers on board to win. I wonder if that is true of the nation-wide races coming up this year.

I think they believe it to be true, that teachers are not a necessary factor for winning...because there has not been one single solitary favorable move toward this group since 2009.


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Cuomo: Still won't cater to teachers' union. Says he doesn't need their endorsement. (Original Post) madfloridian Sep 2014 OP
you know it is bullshit noiretextatique Sep 2014 #1
Cuomo: Still a complete dumpster fire on his best day. TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #2
That's an insult to dumpsters . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #7
They do serve a beneficial and practical purpose so my apologies to dumpsters TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #29
Your intent was honorable, Cuomo sucks !!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #30
Dumpster fires provide warmth and light, unlike Cuomo. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #21
Fair enough TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #28
Hopefully LWolf Sep 2014 #3
He just won again yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #13
I don't know New York. LWolf Sep 2014 #25
Not one politician cared about "education" when teachers' salaries (and pensions) were low. NOW? WinkyDink Sep 2014 #4
It looks like teachers aren't the only ones LWolf Sep 2014 #5
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. madfloridian Sep 2014 #12
He thinks debate doesn't do anything to inform voters, 1% truster . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #6
While he's probably making a big political mistake, SheilaT Sep 2014 #8
He panders to the 1%, which cuts down our needs by 99% orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #10
What? salib Sep 2014 #18
I understand. SheilaT Sep 2014 #19
Arrrrrrrrrgh BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #9
That Koch funding must be going a long way. nt adirondacker Sep 2014 #11
+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #14
If Zephyr had the backing and funding by the Democrats she would have adirondacker Sep 2014 #16
A Friend was disheartened to see he was 1 of 12 votes in orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #24
It is sad... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #15
Triangulation. immoderate Sep 2014 #17
Oh for fuck’s sakes... busterbrown Sep 2014 #20
The best part of him is a crusty stain on the mattress. QC Sep 2014 #22
Andrew's all mixed up... ReRe Sep 2014 #23
What a dick -- May he lose BIG. whathehell Sep 2014 #26
And someone here at DU once suggested a Clinton/Cuomo ticket. Good grief. n/t djean111 Sep 2014 #27
This is why we need an ACTUAL workers' party....... socialist_n_TN Sep 2014 #31
Guess teachers need to sit a few election cycles out Generic Other Sep 2014 #32
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
13. He just won again
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:22 PM
Sep 2014

Does he have term limits? I doubt he cares about something four years from now. He is a strange Democratic person though.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
4. Not one politician cared about "education" when teachers' salaries (and pensions) were low. NOW?
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:41 PM
Sep 2014

They all want the money that pours from testing, from textbook publishing, from privatizing. but they want to GET there from attacking the current salaries and especially the pensions.

STILL not about actual education. When has a politician discussed actual subject matter, aside from the bromide "need more math and science"?

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. While he's probably making a big political mistake,
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 08:58 PM
Sep 2014

I have long been bothered by the need on the part of those running for office to get endorsements. Often, getting those endorsements involves out and out pandering to whatever that group wants. It is almost impossible for anyone running for office to simply stand up for his or her beliefs and get elected that way. Nope. Gotta have the teachers. Gotta have the firemen. Gotta have the NRA. and so on.

salib

(2,116 posts)
18. What?
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:52 PM
Sep 2014

If I want help understanding whom to vote foe and do no become an expert in all the subtleties of the candidates, of it is not coming clear because no one has forced the question in a way powerful enough to get a real answer, I want the liberal groups who are working so hard for whatever issue and spend my donations doing it I want them to force the answers and endorse accordingly.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
19. I understand.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 10:09 PM
Sep 2014

But many candidates will twist themselves around so as to get endorsements from as many groups as possible. Teabaggers seem willing to say "Screw you, I don't care" to anything that's not in line with their extreme views, but moderates and liberals more often (from what I can see) will do their best to get as many endorsements as possible.

I do pay a small amount of attention to such endorsements, and when I haven't learned anything else about a candidate, I will often use endorsements to help me figure out who to vote for. But I'm still bothered by it.

QC

(26,371 posts)
22. The best part of him is a crusty stain on the mattress.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:30 PM
Sep 2014

Honestly how could Mario Cuomo father such a waste of protoplasm as this?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
23. Andrew's all mixed up...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:06 AM
Sep 2014

... he thinks he's a Demorcat. I hope NY comes to it's senses and dumps this jerk.

whathehell

(29,032 posts)
26. What a dick -- May he lose BIG.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:34 AM
Sep 2014

I really LOVE this dissing of teachers and public sector unions -- They're now

officially no different than the Repukes.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
31. This is why we need an ACTUAL workers' party.......
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:39 PM
Sep 2014

Dems, even apparently in New York state, don't feel the need to stand up for workers anymore.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
32. Guess teachers need to sit a few election cycles out
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:03 PM
Sep 2014

along with labor in general. Time for Democratic leaders to be taught which side their bread is buttered on. FUCK THEM for publically attacking their own while kissing ass of those who hate them hoping for a few crumbs from their master's table. Maybe the Koch brothers will back Cuomo. I hope to god he doesn't have presidential aspirations because he just wrote off a whole lot of votes. Including mine.

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