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DerekG

(2,935 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:06 AM Sep 2014

When was the last time a president did something truly great/epoch-making?

Reading the excellent Nixonland the other day, I was struck by the profundity behind Nixon's negotiations with Red China and the Soviet Union. Odious rotter that he was, I couldn't help but feel a begrudging admiration for him. He actually did something worthwhile: thawing the Cold War and making us all relatively safer. (Sadly, his successors would jeopardize this triumph.)

More stupefying was the thought that I can't recall a single instance in my young life (I'm 32) when I felt a president did something Truly Great. No inspired piece of legislation. No foreign policy miracle. Nada. Any takers?


On edit: When I say "truly great", I also mean "something good". Apologies for the confusion.

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When was the last time a president did something truly great/epoch-making? (Original Post) DerekG Sep 2014 OP
Not in the sense you mean TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #1
Jimmy Carter chemp Sep 2014 #2
I would have chosen Carter as well. Savannahmann Sep 2014 #15
You didn't live through the Cuban missile crisis? shraby Sep 2014 #3
It takes decades to find out what actions are actually 'epoch-making'. DebJ Sep 2014 #4
AMEN! And I am much older than you marym625 Sep 2014 #5
The ACA. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #6
Agreed. And if we had any kind of MSM they would acknowledge it. jwirr Sep 2014 #14
The ACA oldandhappy Sep 2014 #7
For me, it has to be Kennedy... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #8
Johnson signing the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts tularetom Sep 2014 #9
Im also 32, so in my life it is ACA and reversing great depression. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #10
Never treestar Sep 2014 #11
Healthcare for millions that didn't have it before. onecaliberal Sep 2014 #12
removing 'pre-existing' conditions from the ability to receive healthcare spanone Sep 2014 #13

TexasProgresive

(12,155 posts)
1. Not in the sense you mean
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:09 AM
Sep 2014

but the decision to break a stable Iraq was definitely a great epoch making act.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
15. I would have chosen Carter as well.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:57 PM
Sep 2014

But for personally going to Three Mile Island to show that there would be no explosion, and no cloud of radioactive death wiping out millions in the Tri State Area.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. You didn't live through the Cuban missile crisis?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:18 AM
Sep 2014

That was a nail-biter beyond nail biter events. A show-down that could have ended very badly.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
4. It takes decades to find out what actions are actually 'epoch-making'.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:20 AM
Sep 2014

When I was being taught history in the 60s, I was told they wouldn't teach recent history
because there was not enough time yet for perspective.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
7. The ACA
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:55 AM
Sep 2014

It will join MediCare and Social Security as basic in our society. And I agree with the post re Carter.

I was driving the night that Nixon went to China and I remember the scramble of the media to fill the air time when Nixon basically went missing. Hard for the reporters who did not know the local language. That was a long night for them. Well it was night for me, day for them. Strong memory for me.

Good to think about these things.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
8. For me, it has to be Kennedy...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:07 AM
Sep 2014

announcing the Quest to go to the Moon. Nixon's motives for opening up China and the USSR were more profit driven than anything. When they weighed the profits of the MIC against the potential of opening up nearly half the planet's population to American goods, the greater profit won. The MIC hasn't lost many of those arguments since.

The ACA was good, but because it could have been so much better, I can't rank it up there with the New Deal era of Roosevelt.

A close second might be Johnson's Great Society and War on Poverty, which largely worked. But he got bogged down in Vietnam and didn't run for his last term, which if he had he might have further cemented his successes there.

But the Space Program, that was something altruistic, shared by people all over the world, and while much profit was made, it never seemed to be the primary motive behind it. We're still enjoying the benefits of the science and especially the technology developed for that effort.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Never
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:21 AM
Sep 2014

An epoch is defined by a culture. People were getting sick of the Cold War.

One person having enough power to define an epoch would be horrible. The last person who did that was Hitler and even in his case he could not have done it without the German people.

The Chinese had to have been ready for it too.

onecaliberal

(32,777 posts)
12. Healthcare for millions that didn't have it before.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:10 PM
Sep 2014

It's not even close to perfect but people are alive because of it.

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