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Sen. Sanders: Why do we continue to listen to the SAME people (Original Post) cal04 Sep 2014 OP
We have to listen to them because that is the only tune being played by the propaganda grinders. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #1
+1 Wella Sep 2014 #8
Minor edit... tecelote Sep 2014 #12
Yup, right on fred, right the fuck on madokie Sep 2014 #13
Sen. Sanders, please run for President, so we can listen to YOU! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #2
Bernie Sanders could win but it would INdemo Sep 2014 #16
Because people want to belieive that "doing something" will solve their problems. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #3
I don't know if they want to believe that, or if Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #4
People are hungry for news Wellstone ruled Sep 2014 #5
People may be hungry for news... thesquanderer Sep 2014 #7
K and R bigwillq Sep 2014 #6
Same reason people in the Bomb Or GTFO group use Sanders to try to advocate for more dead Arabs Scootaloo Sep 2014 #9
They throw the best cocktail parties and give the best stock tips JHB Sep 2014 #10
He is right. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #11
Agree totally in spirit, but with one key clarification RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #15
Thanks. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #17
What's frightening is how readily we absorb propaganda and think it's our own opinion. RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #14
I give. Because they bought pretty much all the media outlets and own most all the Companies? glinda Sep 2014 #18
We don't. It's only all the stupid people who listen to them. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #19
K&R woo me with science Sep 2014 #20

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
12. Minor edit...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:20 PM
Sep 2014

"We have to listen to them because that is the only tune being played by the propaganda grinders."

to...

"We have to listen to them because that is the only tune being paid by the propaganda grinders."

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. Yup, right on fred, right the fuck on
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:22 PM
Sep 2014

I keep trying to remind everyone here that the reason that the President can't get his message our is because the Press is owned and in the pockets of big corporations who have a vested interest in things being as they are, War and lots more wars. Hate and lots more hate. Hard times for most Americans and lots more hard times for Americans.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
16. Bernie Sanders could win but it would
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:15 PM
Sep 2014

take big bucks from us unlike Hillary who has billionaires lined up waiting for her to declare..

Sanders/Warren

What a ticket !!

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
3. Because people want to belieive that "doing something" will solve their problems.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:37 PM
Sep 2014

No matter how self-defeating, useless, and stupid that "something" is.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
4. I don't know if they want to believe that, or if
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:01 PM
Sep 2014

they're just force-fed these beliefs by Mainstream Media on a Military Mobilization Mission.

It' s not like they're presented with any rational examination of alternatives.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. People are hungry for news
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:31 PM
Sep 2014

It's plain human nature to be inquisitive and be informed. With most of schools dumping Civics and Government studies,we have a very ignorant society as a whole. Six people making the decisions as to what were and when or why we get information,we are so screwed.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
7. People may be hungry for news...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:54 PM
Sep 2014

...but that doesn't mean the news programs have to keep giving voice to the people who had the worst ideas of the past.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. Same reason people in the Bomb Or GTFO group use Sanders to try to advocate for more dead Arabs
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:09 PM
Sep 2014

Because people, even some Democrats, love wars that they don't have to participate in.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. He is right.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:14 PM
Sep 2014

And the assassination and overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran followed by our manipulating oil prices and colluding with certain oil-producing nations brought us to the War in Iraq and to ISIS. It all fits together.

Interesting book -- Endless Enemies (1984) Kwitny. Fills in the blanks on the years before the Reagan Administration. Some of the same people or interests were involved in leading the US and the world down a very dark path way back right after WWII.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
15. Agree totally in spirit, but with one key clarification
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:37 PM
Sep 2014

Mossadegh wasn't assassinated. He was imprisoned and died in jail. We assassinated quite a few other leaders though (all in the name of freedom, naturally), so the error is quite understandable.

An excellent book about the overthrow of Mossadegh and its terrible legacy is All the Shah's Men by Stephen Kinzer.

I'll be curious to check out the Kwitny book.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
14. What's frightening is how readily we absorb propaganda and think it's our own opinion.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:28 PM
Sep 2014

The medial prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that accounts for our sense of self, is actually quite a porous region. As everyone from Friederic Nietzsche to cutting edge social cognitive neuroscientist Matthew Lieberman have suggested, the self may actually be a cleverly designed deception that allows us to be taken over by the social world. Unfortunately for us, that social world is controlled primarily by corporations and the bottom line.

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