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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:12 PM Sep 2014

What killed the liberal radio star? - Corporate Censorship Of Course

The primary reason behind the rightward shift in our politics has been the rightward shift of our media as exemplified by the growth of Rupert Murdoch's media empire. The concept of a liberal media has always been a myth, but now the biggest lie is that the "mainstream media" is somehow neutral. False neutrality has replaced objectivity. A monopolistic media market relentlessly attacks or obscures Democratic and progressive viewpoints in order to pander to their right wing corporate advertisers.

Liberal talk radio is now largely dead because corporate advertisers have increasingly acted in concert to boycott it. Now, the only political talk radio available is from right wing blowhards. Bill Moyers once said "There is no more important struggle for American democracy than ensuring a diverse, independent and free media. Free Press is at the heart of that struggle." Sadly, we have already lost this struggle. The press is not free. It is for sale. And the only folks who can afford it are the Shelden Adelsons and Koch Brothers of the world.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/killed-liberal-radio-star-article-1.1557670

In Los Angeles, the last remaining all-liberal talk station, KTLK, will do an about-face and start airing only conservative talkers on Jan. 1. Ditto for KNEW in San Francisco. Last November, progressive stations in Portland, Ore., and Seattle switched to all-sports formats.

The biggest pressures squeezing liberal talk radio are commercial ones. Deregulation of the airwaves allowed conglomerates like Clear Channel to borrow billions from Wall Street and begin buying up stations by the hundreds. Saddled with debt, Clear Channel has ruthlessly standardized its 840 stations and squeezed each for maximum profit. That meant eliminating progressive talk from its stations in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Portland.

Angry progressives claim such moves could also have a political motivation: Clear Channel is owned in part by Bain Capital, the private equity firm once run by Mitt Romney . That’s possible, but it wouldn’t explain the problems besetting stations like WWRL, which is owned by Access 1, a family-owned media company.

A more likely culprit is the hard economics of persuading businesses to advertise on local radio. “National advertisers have pulled away from progressive stations, and not just in New York,” says Mark Riley, a New York radio veteran who just ended a great stint as WWRL’s morning man. “Stations aren’t worth what the people who bought them thought they were worth,” he says.
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What killed the liberal radio star? - Corporate Censorship Of Course (Original Post) TomCADem Sep 2014 OP
Because liberals don't listen to talk radio? frazzled Sep 2014 #1
We have filthy rich Democratic progressives in the party yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #2
If Those are the Best Examples of Rich Progressives We Have AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #4
Those were just off the top of my head yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #5
Thanks again for all your concern. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #17
Most people use the radio to listen to music. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #15
Yes .. and any idiot that can regurgitate GOP talking points .. MinM Sep 2014 #3
Rational discourse doesn't make money. Shouting and name-calling do. Ron Green Sep 2014 #6
not enough listeners yielding little support for sponsors. hate sells more merch nt msongs Sep 2014 #7
I listened to Air America two days in a row and never again, Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2014 #8
+1 ohnoyoudidnt Sep 2014 #9
True. I often watch MSNBC to see if they are covering something though. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #14
Yep. I made it longer than that, but I went back to music. tanyev Sep 2014 #19
Clinton signed the death blow: the Telecommunications Act which emboldened TV and radio JDPriestly Sep 2014 #10
There are a few stations around... DAMANgoldberg Sep 2014 #11
And Al Franken! ANOIS Sep 2014 #12
Welome to DU DAMANgoldberg Sep 2014 #16
Thank you DAMANgoldberg. ANOIS Sep 2014 #24
Example: Wolf Blitzer let's Right Wingers spout away their crap but interupts Liberals. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #13
No one listened... Oktober Sep 2014 #18
There is plenty of liberal radio out there, but it's mostly non-terrestrial. Snarkoleptic Sep 2014 #20
WCPT is great! MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #22
I first heard about this station via massive billboard on 294 near O'Hare and been hooked since. Snarkoleptic Sep 2014 #27
IMO Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #21
I use to listen every day, until Zorra Sep 2014 #23
The worst thing to ever happen to radio Jenoch Sep 2014 #25
I love my liberal talk radio And still enjoy it kimbutgar Sep 2014 #26

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Because liberals don't listen to talk radio?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:40 PM
Sep 2014

And never really have. What is this ... 2004? I didn't know they still even had talk radio. And there is no Clear Channel any more. I googled the Wikipedia. (It's "iHeartCommunications, Inc." (gag me with a spoon) ).

No, really, I'm being serious. Talk radio was always the province of conservatives: only they are paleolithic enough to listen to it.

I have one idea why it is not big among liberals. Many liberals live in the large cities and don't drive around in cars long enough to listen to talk radio. They take public transportation (or bicycles). Which don't have radio.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. We have filthy rich Democratic progressives in the party
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:14 AM
Sep 2014

For some reason, the don't want to purchase media ventures. We definitely have Bill Gates- riches man on Earth. Oprah who is one of us politically. Mark Zuckerberg who has a few dollars hanging around. We are out raising the Republicans this mid-term cycle. Something is adrift. The message? Something....

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
4. If Those are the Best Examples of Rich Progressives We Have
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:22 AM
Sep 2014

Bill Gates seems to be bent on corporatizing education, maybe Mark Zuckerberg has done something progressive and I missed it.
I doubt that Oprah is THAT wealthy. Tee Vee and radio stations are EXPENSIVE.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. Those were just off the top of my head
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:28 AM
Sep 2014

I am sure there are tons more. Oprah is that wealthy. She started her own network a few years ago, but nothing political.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
3. Yes .. and any idiot that can regurgitate GOP talking points ..
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:20 AM
Sep 2014

can have their own show.

Lansing Michigan, which is fairly liberal, has never had a liberal station or show. A few years ago the local npr station (WKAR) jumped on the conservative bandwagon and hired one of the radio guys from a commercial station. He got called out by some listeners for falling back on his old right wing radio roots with the derogatory use of "Democrat this or that" when the proper way to phrase it would be Democratic ______...

Instead of being disciplined or replaced he's now the host of their local flagship show 'Current State' .. Of course this seems to be a trend with npr at the national level too .. along with commercial/corporate radio as noted in the op.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
6. Rational discourse doesn't make money. Shouting and name-calling do.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:39 AM
Sep 2014

Screamers like Mike Malloy and Randi Rhodes have a bit of market, but most worthwhile journalists or pundits just can't gain ad revenue, because entertainment is what sells - and Bill Moyers just isn't very entertaining. As folksy and pithy as Jim Hightower is, he's a minor player because you know, he just makes too durn much sense.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
8. I listened to Air America two days in a row and never again,
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:49 AM
Sep 2014

We're talking about a service that nobody wants.

Liberals, by our very nature don't go seeking voices of authority or outside confirmation of our beliefs . While conservatives can't function without one.

A liberal thinks to themselves "I believe… " and goes about their day to day life. A conservative typically subscribes to a pretty rigid set of beliefs and seeks out confirmation that they're valid from an authoritative voice. They need this to function because they're constantly bombarded with evidence that contradicts their deeply held convictions and talk radio provides simplistic explanations in small words that lets them shake off those doubts for the time being.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
19. Yep. I made it longer than that, but I went back to music.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:15 AM
Sep 2014

I find any kind of talk radio too distracting when I'm driving. And my car is the only place I ever listen to a radio anymore.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. Clinton signed the death blow: the Telecommunications Act which emboldened TV and radio
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 02:04 AM
Sep 2014

to become propaganda machines for the far right, the friends of the Chamber of Commerce and ALEC.

I would like to mention that Pacifica Radio and independent radio on the internet give a voice to liberals.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
11. There are a few stations around...
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 02:14 AM
Sep 2014

My city doesn't have one, but 2 hrs west of here, they do.

Asheville's Progressive Talk

There is the Indiana Talks online network and of course, Stephanie Miller.

It may be harder to find, but it's still there. Air America did produce a US Senator and brought us Rachel Maddow, so it wasn't all bad.

ANOIS

(112 posts)
12. And Al Franken!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 02:27 AM
Sep 2014

He had a show on AA for two-three years. I never missed it.

Tho he did have another career before that.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
20. There is plenty of liberal radio out there, but it's mostly non-terrestrial.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:59 AM
Sep 2014

When I'm traveling away from a major metro, I use the free TuneIn Radio smart-phone app to listen to the Progressive Voices channel.

When sitting at a PC, I'll often listen online to-
http://chicagosprogressivetalk.com/

I listen to Bill Press, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann (who is a DUer and frequently mentions DU posts), Jeff Santos (who's a bit hard to listen to, IMHO), Norman Goldman, Amy Goodman's Democracy Now is a great listen, and Alan Colmes toys with conservative callers on his show as well.

Lot's of great content, but Thom Hartmann is my runaway favorite!

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
27. I first heard about this station via massive billboard on 294 near O'Hare and been hooked since.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:05 PM
Sep 2014

Also enjoy the youtube lefty programming...
David Pakman
The Young Turks
Ring of Fire Radio
etc.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
21. IMO
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:06 AM
Sep 2014

IMO this is a generational issue. Mostly the older generations listen to talk radio which is the same as the fox News core demographic talk radio is on its way out kicking a screaming, just like the 8-track and land lines.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
23. I use to listen every day, until
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:46 AM
Sep 2014

some of them started spewing neoiberal effluent. Thom Hartmann and Mike Malloy get a pass, and so does the dude from the young Turks.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
25. The worst thing to ever happen to radio
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:11 PM
Sep 2014

broadcasting was the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Radio stations used to be locally owned. There were some corporate ownership groups, but they were limitee to 12 AM and 12 FM licenses.

The reason liberal talk radio has little to do with corporations anti-Democratic policies. It has to do with audience. If there was a large enough audience, advertisers would would line up to buy radio spots.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
26. I love my liberal talk radio And still enjoy it
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:23 PM
Sep 2014

I brought a car that had Sirrus satellite and listen to progressive talk channel all the time. With my subscription I can also hear it on my iPad and computer. Plus I can listen to Howard Stern Uncensored. And I can download a liberal show to hear later. Free Speech TV has Bill Press, Stephanie Miller and Thom Hartmann. So there is liberal talk you just have to find it.

I was so pissed when they took off liberal talkers in San Francisco and put on right wing blowhards. Now I never use Terrestrial radio in my car unless my son wants to listen to his FM music stations.

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