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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:55 AM Sep 2014

I'll tell you EXACTLY what the 'culture' of the Secret Service is and then some!

I have already written posts about the 'sex romps' and the 'drinking within the Secret Service. So let's move on from there, though congressional oversight will be reviewing that as well, once again.

Some reports are a little more thorough then the WaPo, concerning the shooting at the White House from Constitution Ave. "They somehow came to the conclusion it was a shooting argument between two people on the street."

In the most current incident, the 'crash box' right inside the doorway to the White House had been "muted".

Soooooooo, let me explain the culture. The White House USHERS inside wanted it muted, because they said it was TOO NOISY! Oh my, was it agitating to read their cell phones, texts, etc. while listening to the BEEP every time someone entered?

Now back to the shooting on Constitution Ave. It was a White House M A I D who was dusting who saw the BROKEN WINDOW and glass on the floor! The BROKEN GLASS! Soooo, then they go look outside and find chunks of concrete laying below where bullets hit the White House AND the window. But it was beneath them when the incident happened, to go and look while they were ON THE JOB? These 'ushers' and these 'agents' don't deserve their jobs! Turn them loose to the unconnected world like the rest of us live in. They won't be able to stand on their own two feet. All of this is so absurd, it's unfuckingbelievable!

I'll bet they're good at backslapping and taking selfies and enjoying the "look at me job".

What is the culture? It is people, working on our tax payer dime, that are SO DAMN FULL OF THEMSELVES, who were raised in an elite lazy culture! They are our nations brightest? World class educations? Elite connected family members? I've worked on campaigns where this culture is their breeding ground for future work. The Yale interns...blah blah. Oxford....blah blah. Let me tell you....even in a campaign capacity, THEY S U C K !

That is the damn truth. So I hope Cummings, on the committee today, can see further than what steps were not taken as to improve future roles by the Secret Service. Was the first point guy near the door where he was suppose to be or off to the right? He was off to the right. Nothing can improve that, unless he is a little more serious about his job. The shooting at the White House that broke a window? Just because someone says it was two people fighting on the street, they don't even look, do a walkabout? And, the ushers don't like the beeping on the CRASH BOX inside the door? Then go get a civilian job somewhere else. Then see how full of yourself you are.

Only when you realize that, can you improve it. So many are looking for work, that would love to be an usher and listen to that beep. For the beep means someone is entering and to be aware of anyone without a pass. That means it's your turn to protect the POTUS. WOW! But the usher's think they are more important, and that little annoying beep...beep....beep.

This....is a culture of B R A T S!

Start there Rep. Cummings.....these are my tax dollars!







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I'll tell you EXACTLY what the 'culture' of the Secret Service is and then some! (Original Post) TheNutcracker Sep 2014 OP
I'm curious - have you worked as an usher or for the Secret Service? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #1
I have had the privilege of working with them for a short time. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #5
Gee - I hope Issa and Lamborn aren't caught on tape urging SS to ignore their duties. blm Sep 2014 #2
Well Lamborn must be full of himself too, to play such a dangerous game for partisianship! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #3
I would love an answer as to where were the dogs? Asked but not answered by many here...n/t monmouth3 Sep 2014 #4
They dogs weren't released. herding cats Sep 2014 #9
Thanks... monmouth3 Sep 2014 #17
K&R to the greatest, so the longtime "full of themselves committee" can realize this! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #6
Unrec. What evidence do you have that these working class stiffs are elitist brats? FSogol Sep 2014 #7
I have watched too many move up from the ground level who are elitist brats. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #10
Sorry you didn't get promoted and some "brat" did. FSogol Sep 2014 #19
That was not my line of work so I was not looking for a "promotion". TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #21
Look at the level of failure that occurred here. Aerows Sep 2014 #23
I agree. The problem is the top (management) is not doing their job. FSogol Sep 2014 #28
Something is definitely wrong in their organization Aerows Sep 2014 #32
Sorry - but KT2000 Sep 2014 #39
Exactly. "Fish rots from the head." The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #11
Nonsense Proud Public Servant Sep 2014 #14
That's my feeling, too Aerows Sep 2014 #25
Even members of Congress need to read this, and stop their own game playing TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #8
I'm probably going to get shit for this but here goes LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #12
Critical thinking should not be blasted. That's worse than I thought, and there's a history of what TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #13
That much failure Aerows Sep 2014 #29
There was an incident with the President a couple years ago. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #33
It's crazy Aerows Sep 2014 #34
It's in everyones interest to keep the President, any President, safe. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #35
I just hope to jeebus that something is done about this AngryAmish Sep 2014 #15
They's heros! You shut yer mouth! 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #16
Can you imagine how Michelle is feeling about this? LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #20
EXACTLY! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #22
Cummings is really onto something when he questions "the culture" of the SS. If he gets too close kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #18
Probably, so we need to be ready to support him. It is our government. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #24
That's what I am seeing. blm Sep 2014 #26
Something is DEFINITELY wrong in the Secret Service Aerows Sep 2014 #27
Whoever is the whistleblower on this deserves a medal! riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #30
I am really going to get it for this yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #37
Now that is funny. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #45
Crap, don't forget DynCorp A - Go - Go - Again the culture that has been allowed! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #31
Wow. just check out the comments on this thread, while watching the hearings! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #36
K&R and let them know WE the people are watching! This director IS full of herself. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #38
The many faces of Secret Service Julia Pierson 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #40
Over the years..... TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #41
In the 2011 shooting incident, there was a female agent outside of the WH bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #42
She was on a need to know basis n/t 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #43
Sometimes SNAFU happens nitpicker Sep 2014 #44
And now another one in an elevator! TheNutcracker Oct 2014 #46

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,015 posts)
1. I'm curious - have you worked as an usher or for the Secret Service?
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:58 AM
Sep 2014

Or do you know someone who has? I'm sure a lot of people would like to know more about their culture.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
5. I have had the privilege of working with them for a short time.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:07 AM
Sep 2014

Back in 2004, and they were the ones working hard, looking for a position in the future administration. I am not at liberty to say who chose them, but you should be able to guess.

blm

(114,720 posts)
2. Gee - I hope Issa and Lamborn aren't caught on tape urging SS to ignore their duties.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:01 AM
Sep 2014

Ya know - like they want generals to stand against this WH and President Obama.


Colorado Independent:

Colorado U.S. Rep. Doug Lamborn said that “behind the scenes” he and other Republican members of Congress were encouraging military officers to resign in protest over President Obama’s foreign policy.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
3. Well Lamborn must be full of himself too, to play such a dangerous game for partisianship!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:05 AM
Sep 2014

herding cats

(20,054 posts)
9. They dogs weren't released.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:12 AM
Sep 2014
But the dog was not released in this case, according to officials’ review of the event and video evidence from Friday night. The Secret Service’s security review will look closely at why.

“We’re asking, why not release the dog?” said one law enforcement person who is reviewing the incident. “That would have stopped this.”

The service’s tactical canine team is a celebrated jewel in the agency’s crown, winning international awards year after year. It was created in 1976 for one purpose: to stop would-be suicide bombers from getting near the White House. The teams exclusively use the Belgian Malinois, considered a kind of “faster, leaner, meaner” German shepherd.

But the dogs cannot easily distinguish between good and bad guys. When sent in the direction of an intruder, they could also attack a nearby officer responding.

For that reason, Secret Service training manuals advise officers to try to collar White House intruders if they feel sure they can do so, and otherwise stay at their posts, so as not to create confusion for the dogs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/secret-service-reviews-white-house-security-after-fence-jumper-enters-mansion/2014/09/20/23df4f6a-40e0-11e4-b03f-de718edeb92f_story.html
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
6. K&R to the greatest, so the longtime "full of themselves committee" can realize this!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:09 AM
Sep 2014

This should be discussed in the hearing and on MSM!

FSogol

(47,647 posts)
7. Unrec. What evidence do you have that these working class stiffs are elitist brats?
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:09 AM
Sep 2014

If there is a lackadaisical attitude at the WH for the Secret Service, it is a management problem, not a worker problem. The people at the top need to go, not the workers.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
10. I have watched too many move up from the ground level who are elitist brats.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:13 AM
Sep 2014

Those on the inside are well connected...let me tell you.

PS. This is an ongoing issue. Why do you need 'proof' now, when the history tells you all of this.

The drunk / prostitute romps, passing out drinking, etc. You need proof that something is wrong in the thinking of the highest ranking protectors in the world?????

Just watch the hearings. I have a lot of faith in Cummings.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
21. That was not my line of work so I was not looking for a "promotion".
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:49 AM
Sep 2014

I got to where I was, because I was not full of myself.

This is a disgrace. And it's not about me or a promotion.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. Look at the level of failure that occurred here.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:50 AM
Sep 2014

They failed at least 4 levels of security to prevent an intruder from accessing the White House. To imply that someone is jealous for pointing out how seriously screwed up this incident was is petty.

After the things that the Secret Service has been caught doing - hiring prostitutes, getting drunk, and now this - it is clear that there is a problem in their organization. If they can't take guarding the White House and the life of the President seriously, they need to work somewhere else.

This was a serious breach. The White House should be the most secured facility in the country and on all levels the people on duty failed to perform their primary function.

FSogol

(47,647 posts)
28. I agree. The problem is the top (management) is not doing their job.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:56 AM
Sep 2014

Suggesting the bottom (workers) are the problem because they are spoiled elitists is petty (and mostly likely wrong).

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. Something is definitely wrong in their organization
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:00 PM
Sep 2014

These kinds of screw ups can have serious consequences for our nation. I don't know where the problem is, but someone needs to find out and fix it so that the life of our President and his family aren't endangered.

KT2000

(22,186 posts)
39. Sorry - but
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:52 PM
Sep 2014

this is how DC works. These people are not just workers - many got where they are by connections. That's just the way it is for all positions that hold status there.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,015 posts)
11. Exactly. "Fish rots from the head."
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:14 AM
Sep 2014

If people aren't doing their jobs properly it's up to management to see that they do. Managers are responsible for hiring qualified people, training them, overseeing their work and firing if necessary. If the front-line employees aren't doing the job the way they should the heads that need to roll first are the managers' heads.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
14. Nonsense
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:18 AM
Sep 2014

It's a shared problem. Management definitely needs to go, but it's clear that the rank and file are not doing their f*cking jobs while actively besmirching the good name of the service with their behavior abroad. This thing is rotten from top to bottom.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. That's my feeling, too
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:52 AM
Sep 2014

This was a serious breach in security. It seems like everybody completely screwed up from the top to the bottom.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
8. Even members of Congress need to read this, and stop their own game playing
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:11 AM
Sep 2014

And get serious! As it stands, most of them don't deserve their jobs either.

Boner....Ryan....Cruz....and dems who placate.

They all need to "reflect".

When they're done, if the glow of such a job has ended and they no longer do good, just play games...they should leave.

They get lifetime pensions...they should go golf.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
12. I'm probably going to get shit for this but here goes
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:15 AM
Sep 2014

This sounds like Poppy Bush and Dallas back in the 60s, if you get my drift. Maybe this was a practice run. And yes, there truly is such evil in this world, for all the ones that will laugh.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
13. Critical thinking should not be blasted. That's worse than I thought, and there's a history of what
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:17 AM
Sep 2014

you are saying.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
29. That much failure
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:57 AM
Sep 2014

does seem orchestrated, doesn't it? I'm not saying it is because recently the SS has done other things to indicate that they aren't as on the ball as they should be, but it does make a person wonder.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
33. There was an incident with the President a couple years ago.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:02 PM
Sep 2014

?? the SS was caught with prostitutes on duty or some such thing. There was an even bigger scandal with the State Department SS under Hillary but that wasn't covered very much at all. It was much more serious than the President's one where they got fired but I don't think there was much punishment in the SoS event.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. It's crazy
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:05 PM
Sep 2014

You would think they would take the job of PROTECTING THE POTUS a little more seriously. It's the freaking White House, for heaven's sake.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
35. It's in everyones interest to keep the President, any President, safe.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:07 PM
Sep 2014

It makes my breath stop to think what could happen...

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
15. I just hope to jeebus that something is done about this
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:22 AM
Sep 2014

R or D, assassinating the President or attacking the White House is an act of war. People will lose their lives, a lot of them. Don't like the alarm, tough. Also, the person minding the door should be closer in size to Brian Urlacher.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
16. They's heros! You shut yer mouth!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:25 AM
Sep 2014


If the secret service is this incompetent, can you imagine what is going on at the CIA?
 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
20. Can you imagine how Michelle is feeling about this?
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:30 AM
Sep 2014

Obama too, obviously, but wow. The kids.
She must be shaking with fear and anger.

sick

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
22. EXACTLY!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:50 AM
Sep 2014

This is about their protection, and what we are paying for. I don't like wasting money.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
18. Cummings is really onto something when he questions "the culture" of the SS. If he gets too close
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:28 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:59 AM - Edit history (1)

close to uncovering the truth...he will be stopped by the GOP who feign outrage when they think it's necessary but who really work against protecting the government, government workers, and the President and First Family. They feign supporting the military when they really only support military contractors otherwise their votes in Congress would be different.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
27. Something is DEFINITELY wrong in the Secret Service
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:55 AM
Sep 2014

That level of failure on MULTIPLE levels tells me that there isn't just a problem with the staff, the management is incompetent, too.

If they can't even secure the White House, then there are some real issues with them as an organization.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
30. Whoever is the whistleblower on this deserves a medal!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:57 AM
Sep 2014

Probably will get charged under the Espionage Act and hunted down though...

K&R

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
37. I am really going to get it for this
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:16 PM
Sep 2014

But I truly believe that Boehner is outraged by this. He has this nutty group of crazy conservatives who refuse to work with him. If Beohner had a 1970's Republican House types, I believe things would get done with the President. One thing about Boehner, he does like President Obama.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
31. Crap, don't forget DynCorp A - Go - Go - Again the culture that has been allowed!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:59 AM
Sep 2014

Another disgrace of those high up, receiving the contracting jobs overseas, operating in nefarious ways...just plain evil there.
Cumming is right to bring up the 'culture'. That's is where the rot lies....

https://decryptedmatrix.com/live/dyncorp-gets-72-8-million-contract-despite-history-of-child-trafficking/

DynCorp Gets $72.8 Million Contract Despite History of Child Trafficking

DynCorp is one of the most lucrative and infamous military contractors in the world, perhaps only surpassed by Halliburton. They both have a documented history of gunrunning, drug dealing, and human trafficking.

In addition, the actual work that they do on the record is sub par and their rebuilding efforts have gotten terrible reviews, especially DynCorp.

Despite this history of nefarious behavior and poor work, Dyncorp was just awarded a brand new $72.8 million dollar contract by the US government. Not only that, but they have also been given an advance exoneration from any liability.

That’s right, our wonderful government has just given DynCorp almost $73 million to continue what many believe will be shabby work that may only be used as a front for more sinister operations.

According to AllGov.com:

and....

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11119

US: DynCorp Disgrace

by Kelly Patricia O'Meara, Insight Magazine
January 14th, 2002

Middle-aged men having sex with 12- to 15-year-olds was too much for Ben
Johnston, a hulking 6-foot-5-inch Texan, and more than a year ago he blew
the whistle on his employer, DynCorp, a U.S. contracting company doing
business in Bosnia.

According to the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) lawsuit filed in Texas on behalf of the former DynCorp aircraft mechanic, "in the latter part of 1999 Johnston learned that employees and supervisors from DynCorpwere engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior [and] were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and [participating in other immoral acts. Johnston witnessed coworkers and supervisors literally
buying and selling women for their own personal enjoyment, and employees
would brag about the various ages and talents of the individual slaves they
had purchased."

****************************

Again, those who are well connected and never held accountable.

These SS agents...should be F I R E D. And not allowed to move into another high security or contracting position for big bucks. Again, special help for those undeserving as above.

GO REP CUMMINGS!

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
36. Wow. just check out the comments on this thread, while watching the hearings!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:13 PM
Sep 2014

gads...like I said, they are just full of themselves.

On Clinton..

"who'd come to see him"? R U KIDDING ME??????????????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025602598

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
38. K&R and let them know WE the people are watching! This director IS full of herself.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:27 PM
Sep 2014

Are you watching???

bullwinkle428

(20,663 posts)
42. In the 2011 shooting incident, there was a female agent outside of the WH
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:07 PM
Sep 2014

who immediately took cover and was ready to return fire following the sounds of the gunshots, but apparently, a supervisor of hers told here there were no shots fired at the WH and there was nothing to worry about.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
44. Sometimes SNAFU happens
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:50 PM
Sep 2014

My SWAG:

Almost everyone is watching the chopper take off from the White House.

Including

1. The door flunkey

2. His supervisor

3. The agent who thought to postpone the door check (or may have been drafted in for extra security on That side)

4. Perimeter persoonel

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
46. And now another one in an elevator!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:24 PM
Oct 2014

Look, the who's who of who gets hired needs to stop. These kids are not their dad's, uncle's or whoever they knew, and go into the same line of work, knowing they have an "in'.

The entitlement needs to stop!

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