Isis Threat to Crucify Lebanon's Christians

[Rhinodawg]

Isis Threat to Crucify Lebanon's Christians as Islamic State Prepare to Cross Syria Border

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-threat-crucify-lebanons-christians-islamic-state-prepare-cross-syria-border-1467898


The Sunni jihadists have taken over Iraq's largest Christian town of Qaraqosh causing thousands of residents to flee towards Kurdistan region.

They also issued an ultimatum to Christians in the city of Mosul to convert to their radical form of Islam or be forced to either pay a tax, leave the city or be harmed for refusal to convert.

The city is now reportedly empty of Christians as hundreds of families fled following the ultimatum of death or a historic contract ‒ known as "dhimma"‒ where non-Muslims can receive protection if they pay a fee known as a "jizya".

[NightWatcher]

1. Lebanon should probably take steps to prevent that if that's the case.

'Jizya' seems like a good term for the pro-war froth that some like to whip themselves into by trying to scare everyone else about how terrible and dangerous ISIL is. "Why look, Lindsey Graham has jizya running down the leg of his slacks. He and McCain must have been talking about war".

[blkmusclmachine]

2. Phony

[leftynyc]

3. What are you calling phony?

The danger these animals have already inflicted on those who wouldn't convert? The thousands they've already killed in Syria and Iraq? Which of those FACTS are you sneering at with scorn?

[Rhinodawg]

4. ooooooga booooga?

[snooper2]

6. You should PROBABLY go to vice.com and maybe look at some of their reporting

unless you think it is our CIA beheading 8 year old girls-

[GGJohn]

7. What's phony?

This isn't the first time these terrorists have issued such ultimatums, so why are we to believe that this is a phony story?

[Rhinodawg]

8. Because anyone who dares to think for themselves...

and takes the barbarians seriously, MUST BE SOME RW SCHILL WHO SUCKS UP TO THE MIC AND WANTS TO SEND AMERICAN BOOTS OVER THERE TO COMMIT GENOCIDE !!!

[Trillo]

5. dhimma sounds like a tax.

I'm trying to understand the difference between this alleged system of brutality and our system which will ultimately jail people who don't pay taxes, though financial penalties are first piled on.

I don't believe we behead people, but we do put them to death, in the best case after due process, when they're not like Micheal Brown and merely gunned down in the street. We have hung people, electrocuted them, even gassed them with cyanide, as well as the allegedly more humane lethal injection.

Supposedly, we have freedom of religion (but that can be debated), but we don't have freedom when the subject is compulsory education.

[bobclark86]

9. Blood money =/= taxes

Here's how it works in America:
Foundation of taxes: Democratically-elected republican government creates tax laws to pay for services enjoyed by all.

Enforcement: You get fined and eventually do 9 years in a prison where they actually feed and cloth you.

Here's how it works there:
Foundation: I'm a power-hungry dillweed, so I'll use the excuse that your version of the God of Abraham is slightly different than mine. Oh, and my gun is bigger than yours, so I make the rules.

Enforcement: You get three choices.
1) You pay.
2) You leave your country as a refugee.
3) A roving gang breaks into your house in the middle of the night and cuts your head off.

Because apparently those systems are the same thing ...

"this alleged system of brutality"

Yes, because gangs going around the country beheading tax cheats is totally not brutal. Oh, and I don't pay attention to international news, so it must be alleged.

[Trillo]

11. We have roving gangs in the U.S.,...

How is this different from our tax system which allows the biggest corporations to pay little to no taxes in some years, or the ultra wealthy the same? (Buffet is one example who said he pays less taxes than his employees, but Romney also jumps to mind). We seem to have an inverted pattern, where we demand taxes paid by the majority, but the wealthy minority gets the pass.

We have roving gangs in the U.S., they are hiding in plain sight, we call them police. Here's but one example of many, "SWAT Team Kills 80 Year Old Retired Engineer in Bed During Raid For Non-Existent Drugs". Feel free to search for it, from thefreethoughtproject.com

There are many other specific examples, so I guess I'm not understanding your point when you wrote, "A roving gang breaks into your house in the middle of the night and cuts your head off." I suspect its just the method of execution which may be perceived as unusually brutal.

When I was a kid, a family friend was a retired Marine CWO, WWII era. He explained to me that the knife wound was less painful and sometimes not even immediately noticed, versus a bullet, which makes quite a painful burning sensation due to the heat of the bullet.

[bobclark86]

13. Are you really saying police and fundamentalist militia squads are the same thing?

Not exactly an apples to oranges comparison there.

"How is this different from our tax system which allows the biggest corporations to pay little to no taxes in some years, or the ultra wealthy the same? (Buffet is one example who said he pays less taxes than his employees, but Romney also jumps to mind). We seem to have an inverted pattern, where we demand taxes paid by the majority, but the wealthy minority gets the pass."

Again, you missed the part about being executed with no due process. Which, unlike the cops you cite, is the norm and not a exception.

"We have roving gangs in the U.S., they are hiding in plain sight, we call them police."

Yes, because every offense against the fundamental Christian government in the US is met with death by beheading or, in the case of a woman wanting to exercise her independence, by stoning her to death in public. Could you be more obtuse? My god, just call them Nazis and jump the shark already.

"I suspect its just the method of execution which may be perceived as unusually brutal."

It's called a lack of due process based on laws set forth by a democratically-elected republican government. It's a bunch of assholes perverting a religious code for personal power.

"When I was a kid, a family friend was a retired Marine CWO, WWII era. He explained to me that the knife wound was less painful and sometimes not even immediately noticed, versus a bullet, which makes quite a painful burning sensation due to the heat of the bullet. "

I've been stabbed. It hurts like fucking hell. Never been shot, though.

[Trillo]

16. They certainly appear to have similarities.

I have witnessed exactly ZERO folks beheaded. I have also witnessed ZERO folks killed by U.S. police.

As far as due process, I understand the point you're making, but again these are reports from a "far off land" and there's a great deal of money at stake (oil), so there's certainly more than enough motive to brazenly lie.

I've been suspicious of these 'allegations' about IS because the timing of them coincided with Ferguson, it appears to me a political and physical distraction from very real internal U.S. problems.

[Bluenorthwest]

10. A tax on members of minority groups only. Are you actually going to defend that?

Wow.

[Trillo]

12. No, not defending, trying to understand.

Trying to understand the differences. One of Orwell's constructs, I believe from his work titled 1984, was a perpetual war always being waged in a far-off land.

Feel free to read my post #11 regarding minority versus majority paying taxes.

[CJCRANE]

14. Maybe we shouldn't topple secular leaders and support religious fundamentalists

in that case.

[hrmjustin]

15. Disgraceful!

ISIS is just pure evil!

Murdering and taxing those who don't believe like them is just evil!

[CJCRANE]

17. What about toppling a secular government that supports christians and minorities?

And in the process supporting religious fundamentalists?

[hrmjustin]

18. You mean Assad?

[CJCRANE]

19. Saddam, Gadaffi, Assad. What has our intervention accomplished?

Do we really care about ME Christians?

[hrmjustin]

20. I never supported the war in Iraq or going after Assad.

I care about ME Christians.

[CJCRANE]

21. Thanks for your reply. I support them too

and other minorities.

I'm just exasperated at our policies in the region.

[hrmjustin]

22. Our policies have made things worse for almost everyone in the region.