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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:51 PM Oct 2014

Ebola: hospitals have still NOT solved the dangerous medical waste problem.

Last edited Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

But the CDC says they are "days away" from a solution. The CDC has been telling us for months how well prepared they are. So how come they didn't have a plan for the mountains of highly contagious medical waste?

The problem is that garbage companies are barred by law from handling dangerous medical waste, and there are only 4 large incinerators capable of burning this kind of waste in the country.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-health-ebola-usa-hospitals-insight-idUSKCN0HJ0AD20140924

Part of Emory's solution was to bring in one of the university's large-capacity sterilizers called an autoclave, which uses pressurized steam to neutralize infectious agents, before handing the waste off to its disposal contractor for incineration.

Few hospitals have the ability to autoclave medical waste from Ebola patients on site.

"For this reason, it would be very difficult for a hospital to agree to care for Ebola cases - this desperately needs a fix," said Dr Jeffrey Duchin, chair of the Infectious Diseases Society of America's Public Health Committee.

Dr. Gavin Macgregor-Skinner, an expert on public health preparedness at Pennsylvania State University, said there's "no way in the world" that U.S. hospitals are ready to treat patients with highly infectious diseases like Ebola.

"Where they come undone every time is the management of their liquid and solid waste," said Macgregor-Skinner, who recently trained healthcare workers in Nigeria on behalf of the Elizabeth R. Griffin Research Foundation.

http://www.abreakingnews.com/health/us-nears-solution-for-safe-disposal-of-ebola-medical-waste-h238641.html

The United States is days away from settling the critical question of how hospitals should handle and dispose of medical waste from Ebola patients, a government official said on Wednesday.

Experts have warned that conflicting U.S. regulations over how such waste should be transported could make it very difficult for U.S. hospitals to safely care for patients with Ebola, a messy disease that causes diarrhea, vomiting and in some cases, bleeding from the eyes and ears.


Safely handling such waste presents a dual challenge for regulators, who want to both prevent the accidental spread of the deadly disease and avert any deliberate attempts to use it as a bioweapon.

Most U.S. hospitals are not equipped with incinerators or large sterilizers called autoclaves that could accommodate the large amounts of soiled linens, contaminated syringes and virus-spattered protective gear generated from the care of an Ebola patient, said Dr. Jeffrey Duchin, chair of the Infectious Diseases Society of America's Public Health Committee.

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Ebola: hospitals have still NOT solved the dangerous medical waste problem. (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2014 OP
Days away? I thought we were already prepared? nc4bo Oct 2014 #1
Nope. When the hospital that took Dr. Brantley tried to dispose of their waste, pnwmom Oct 2014 #2
"We got this. It's under control." Yeah, more bullshit coming from our leaders. valerief Oct 2014 #3
Thanks for this information, pnwmom. nt City Lights Oct 2014 #4
a comedy of errors librechik Oct 2014 #5
Thanks Obama! snooper2 Oct 2014 #6
The CDC may be well prepared, but many hospitals still aren't, so much. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #7
Whatever happened to incineration? Hekate Oct 2014 #8
I'm guessing it was air pollution concerns -- but I don't know. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #9
For household use, yes; but hospitals? Hekate Oct 2014 #10

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. Days away? I thought we were already prepared?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:01 PM
Oct 2014

Damn. Actually thought the term used was well prepared?

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
2. Nope. When the hospital that took Dr. Brantley tried to dispose of their waste,
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:03 PM
Oct 2014

they found out that the garbage company couldn't take it. They finally put it in rubber garbage containers and sent it down the road to the CDC. But most hospitals don't have a CDC facility in the same city.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
3. "We got this. It's under control." Yeah, more bullshit coming from our leaders.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:08 PM
Oct 2014

Wonder how much more in cuts Congress will make on the CDC. Their 600 million in cuts hasn't made us entirely vulnerable to ebola yet.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
7. The CDC may be well prepared, but many hospitals still aren't, so much.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:32 PM
Oct 2014

Also, only FOUR incinerators that can handle this, throughout the WHOLE country? Damn, man, that's just unbelievable.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
10. For household use, yes; but hospitals?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:53 PM
Oct 2014

I was a kid in the San Fernando Valley when every backyard had its own incinerator, and it certainly contributed to smog. I'm not sorry that ended.

Oy yoy yoy. Our public health infrastructure is a lot less prepared for epidemic disease than I had hoped. They used to know how to deal with it ... but I think vaccinations and antibiotics (aka "miracle drugs&quot ended up making us complacent.

I hope the system can gear up quickly.

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