Sat Apr 14, 2012, 03:16 AM

DiverDave (4,808 posts)

Oldest Arctic Sea Ice is Disappearing

This page is from a NASA site called "The Earth Observatory"
Might change a few minds, if seen. (Maybe)
It is a simple way to see the difference.

"A new study by NASA scientist Joey Comiso has found that the oldest and thickest Arctic sea ice is disappearing at a faster rate than the younger and thinner ice at the edges of the ice cap. The rapid disappearance of older ice makes the Arctic Ocean's sea ice cap more vulnerable to further decline."

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=77270

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14 replies	Author	Time	Post
Oldest Arctic Sea Ice is Disappearing (Original post)	DiverDave	Apr 2012	OP
I think of all the things that piss me off the most about gopers is their	jillan	Apr 2012	#1
initially they denied it all, then when confronted with facts like this...	DCBob	Apr 2012	#4
Exactly! Except you forgot one ...	Ship of Fools	Apr 2012	#5
It's always that, isn't it?	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2012	#6
The one comment I kept hearing from the goper in my life is that it's caused by sun spots.	jillan	Apr 2012	#8
Yeah, Ive heard that one too. It was debunked by NASA and others..	DCBob	Apr 2012	#9
It's probably nothing.	Tunkamerica	Apr 2012	#2
But, what about my martini? nt	MrScorpio	Apr 2012	#3
What do you suppose might be lying dormant in that ice?	Scuba	Apr 2012	#7
'The Thing'	Zax2me	Apr 2012	#10
Arctic ice extends for fourth consecutive year.	Zax2me	Apr 2012	#11
The north pole as been ice-covered for 3 million years.	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#13
We are sooooooo fucked!	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#12
..	mdmc	Apr 2012	#14

Response to DiverDave (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 03:34 AM

jillan (39,451 posts)

1. I think of all the things that piss me off the most about gopers is their

unwillingness to say that climate change is real....

all because of assholes like the Koch Bros funding their campaigns.

And then they turn around and try and bring religion into politics.
If they really believed in God, you would think they would take care of the earth he gave us.

It just pisses me off to no end - and breaks my heart when I see pictures like this.
How dare them.

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Response to jillan (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 06:33 AM

DCBob (24,689 posts)

4. initially they denied it all, then when confronted with facts like this...

they just say its a natural cycle... then when it finally becomes obvious is man-made they will say its too late to do anything about it. They have an "argument" for every scenario. They will pay some day for their obstinence and ignorance... unfortuantely we will all have to pay along with them.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 06:59 AM

Ship of Fools (1,453 posts)

5. Exactly! Except you forgot one ...

"Too late to do anything about it," followed by: God wouldn't let anything bad happen
to the earth.

Full fucking circle. Self-prophesying assholes, each and every one of them.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 07:03 AM

SammyWinstonJack (44,095 posts)

6. It's always that, isn't it?

They will pay some day for their obstinence and ignorance... unfortunately we will all have to pay along with them.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 11:42 AM

jillan (39,451 posts)

8. The one comment I kept hearing from the goper in my life is that it's caused by sun spots.

I *think* I heard that same comment from Inhofe.

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Response to jillan (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:40 PM

DCBob (24,689 posts)

9. Yeah, Ive heard that one too. It was debunked by NASA and others..

Here is one article about it..

http://www.livescience.com/18255-solar-cycle-climate-change-warming.html

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Response to DiverDave (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 04:04 AM

Tunkamerica (4,444 posts)

2. It's probably nothing.

Just a blip.

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Response to DiverDave (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 04:36 AM

MrScorpio (73,501 posts)

3. But, what about my martini? nt

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Response to DiverDave (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 07:59 AM

Scuba (53,475 posts)

7. What do you suppose might be lying dormant in that ice?

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:26 PM

Zax2me (2,515 posts)

10. 'The Thing'

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Response to DiverDave (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:32 PM

Zax2me (2,515 posts)

11. Arctic ice extends for fourth consecutive year.

Reversing the trend downward since 1979.

highest since 2008 and one of the highest March extents in the past decade.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

I would guess the last 10,000 years it has fluctuated.
'Short term' - anything within 100 years - you can draw anything you want out of results.

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Response to Zax2me (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:39 PM

Odin2005 (53,521 posts)