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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill you support the 2016 Democratic candidate, even if it's someone you don't like?
I know I will. I want to see a good primary season with some real debate, but in the end, I'm voting for anyone with a (D) after their name. The stakes are just too high this time. For women. For healthcare. For the planet.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)And given the bat shit insanity of the opposing side, that won't change anytime soon.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Even though a better strategy would be to let Republicans win so they can keep making enemies which they are very good at these days. But, I can see the damage they can do in a very short time and it is not pretty and there are real lives at stake. Either way, I think they are on life support and after this election they will likely flat line.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)showed that they did indeed fight for the people. I will not vote for a democrat that supports corporations at the expense of the people.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)So, no thank you, I'm not signing on for any 2016 loyalty oaths at this time.
Mister Nightowl
(396 posts)D>R at all times.
denbot
(9,950 posts)The only possible way I would not support a Democratic nominee, is if a more viable progressive candidate ran as a third party, and only if that "D" candidate was still pulling more votes than the conservative.
That situation will not happen in my, or probably anyone's life time.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)My daughter says Sanders name comes up often on Reddit. God I hope someone comes along who can stick a thumb in the establishment's eye. I have been running around for the last month stocking up on groceries, space heaters, and sweaters trying to get ready for winter. I'm exhausted and scared.
WhiteAndNerdy
(365 posts)Another Republican president has to be avoided at all costs for the sake of the greater good. There are very few reasons I would refuse to support a Democratic nominee, and none of them are likely to come about.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Any threat I make to with hold my vote would be shallow. Likewise, any promise I make for my vote is shallow. My other votes matter (I hope), so I will definitely show up and vote.
I know changing the Electoral College would be obnoxious, bureaucratically speaking, but I do wish my Presidential counted as a vote. Presidents are largely decided by purple states. Maybe liberals in red states should move to purple states. Hmmm...that would be interesting.
If you live in a purple state, please keep Republicans out of the White House. I would really appreciate that.
LuvNewcastle
(17,821 posts)The electoral college needs to be abolished. It's wrong that most states get ignored during the general election in favor of a handful of key races. It depresses voter turnout because a large percentage of voters feel like their votes don't count. It's just another anti-democratic relic that needs to be done away with.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)how it appears from my little corner of MT too.
Iggo
(49,927 posts)I SUPPORT no one.
MADem
(135,425 posts)The worst Dem is better than the best Republican.
It's all about the SCOTUS.
Excellent point. Ruth Bader Ginsberg might need to be replaced by the next President.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)With a large pool of candidates?
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)But they CAN do everything in their power to contain candidates and make sure that their campaign goes no where. Frankly I don't see a 2008 type finish happening this time around. I think we are going to be force fed the candidate the party wants.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Anyone can do an upset.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)to vote for whom ever I want to.
quakerboy
(14,868 posts)I will almost certainly be voting for a Democrat. Dunno which one, though. I haven't missed an election yet, and I certainly wont be voting for a Republican, that much I can say with absolute certainty.
Iggo
(49,927 posts)I assume they mean it in the same way that one supports, or roots for, a sportsball team.
Wella
(1,827 posts)Iggo
(49,927 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts).
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Sanders said on MTP that he may run as a Dem in order to get the advantage of the organization to get his message out.
If he doesn't he will be like all the rest of the third party candidates, trolling the Democrats, because the GOP sure won't send any votes to an avowed Socialist, and neither will Libertarians.
The 2014 and 2016 elections are too important to fool around, those who do, I can no longer call my political allies. Because we have seen what the GOP juggernaut did with that attitude in 2010 and their plans are worse for 2014.
They already announced them, and they will be the end of what some argue about now. So I want a debate and for all of America that cares, to be listening.
My primary vote will depend on what I hear in those debates. After that, I expect some unity, and some agreements on policy to take place. Then I'll vote Dem.
But it won't be with the same feeling that I have had for Obama. We have not seen his caliber in many years, and will not see it again.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)And we really don't know the field of candidates yet.
I'm not giving Clinton, Warren, or Sanders anything on a silver platter.
I need to see the debates first - and then let's see who rises to the top. That said, I don't think the Republican candidate is going to be a conductor on the crazy train. The money people on the right have a lot of useful idiots. And I think they realize they made a huge mistake last time around. More so than in 2008 - that loss lays solely on the shoulders of McCain.
2012 - they had a Candidate with zero foreign policy experience. Business is not the same as social constructs abroad. I think their guy is going to have both along with a political Executive leadership position. That's the guy I just gave $10 to so I can be in the loop on all of their mailings - I also gave $25 to a bipartisan PAC he belongs to.
Our candidate has to be able to beat that guy - and I don't believe any of the people at the top of my post can.
Marr
(20,317 posts)the candidate isn't far enough to the right. There have been several incidents in recent years of them actively working against Democratic candidates in the general election. With a few rare (and now ancient) exceptions, liberals are the voters you can actually count on to show up.
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)horrible to allow.
Especially after the last one.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)If there isn't one, I'll write one in.
Kablooie
(19,107 posts)Of course the chances of that are kind of in the negative infinity realm.
But I will vote for whoever I think will the better candidate.
I won't limit myself to the D label just for its own sake.
C Moon
(13,643 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,656 posts)Voting for Romney in the primary?? That might not be a bad strategy for a Dem win in the general!!!
(I'm kidding. I'm kidding.... But...)
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Could be worse than the worst Democrat (Mary Landrieu, f'rinstance) is microscopically small.
So yes, I'll be supporting the 2016 Democratic candidate.
Skittles
(171,713 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)if she's the nominee. Yes, I have the luxury of making that choice. I live in Vermont.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)for a similar reason - I live in South Carolina, which will never go Democratic in my lifetime
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm from Oregon and most likely it will go blue. I personally have my reservations if she is the nominee. I'm hoping that's not the case.
TexasProgresive
(12,730 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)No way I could cast my vote for Blagoevich, Weiner, Marion Barry and the like.
eridani
(51,907 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)avebury
(11,197 posts)about the pick, the alternative could be a whole lot worse. Everyone knows it will all be about SCOTUS but unless the Dems keep a decent hold on the Senate, just getting a Dem in the WH may not be sufficient to get any decent SC nominees passed the Senate.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Come on, Wella, you should know better than that.
Or is this one of those "still beating your wife" questions?
tblue37
(68,436 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)even if thats what they believe?
Your thread is a bit of a purity test, isn't it?
madokie
(51,076 posts)pretty damn simple if you ask me
I'd vote for a turtle or a rat before I'd not vote for the Democratic Candidate.
demwing
(16,916 posts)to make people who prefer to vote the issues feel as is they don't belong.
Purity tests at DU are as old as DU itself...
madokie
(51,076 posts)its glasses then a cup of coffee first things in the morning. LOL
in reference to your obvious not being fully awake yet evidenced by your spelling
Anyways have a great day
when you are as old as I am all days are good
demwing
(16,916 posts)Tease me about my spelling?
First, my edit was more a typing problem than spelling problem. Second, what do either have to do with my point?
I was shooting for a laugh but missed the target, my bad
Scuba
(53,475 posts)How about a long-time Democrat who espouses policies very similar to Huckabee's?
For me, it's about policy, not the little letter after the name.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Huckabee could never win a Democratic Primary.
And if you are suggesting (subtly) that Hillary is like Huckabee, you are a crazy person.
NightWatcher
(39,376 posts)I don't care if a dino gets the nom, we have to have a D picking the next 2 or more justices and we have to have D's in the Senate to confirm them.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And why do assume that the candidate with a D next to their name will definitely support women, healthcare or the planet?
R.Quinn
(122 posts)I applaud you and some of the others on this thread who will vote for policy, not party.
redstatebluegirl
(12,827 posts)I am supporting the Democratic candidates in Oklahoma even though I disagree with almost all of them. They are more conservative than I can stand (the candidate for governor has an A+ rating from the NRA), in most parts of the country they would be conservative Republicans, but...still better than what we have now.
BKH70041
(961 posts)... and party leaders or they won't get the nominee. Know it. Accept it.
Just vote for the (D) candidate. That's really the only topic on this board that the members need to accede. All the other discussions are fluff.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Have to wait for the ticket.
lpbk2713
(43,273 posts)And I can't have that. I've voted for every Dem Presidential nominee since JFK.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)a third party candidate.
I will vote for who I want to vote for. I won't be holding my nose anymore.
And I don't think it actually matters much who wins either way. We get warmed-over Republican crap even if a Democrat wins, ESPECIALLY if it's Clinton.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Will I donate to their campaign? Perhaps...
Will I go out and canvass or do phone calls? Probably not, unless the Republican candidate scares me as much as Romney or Palin.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)barbaraj
(80 posts)to go to the polls in a few weeks to vote for a dem governor that is an idiot. It's not about the candidate so much as the ideology behind them and the influence of the democratic party that needs to be in place.
rogerashton
(3,960 posts)people we would not support if, by some extraordinary chance, they should be the democratic nominee. But shouldn't we think in terms of demos who might reasonably be nominated? On this count, Hillary is about the worst (from my point of view) and yes, I would vote for and support her against any plausible republican.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Since I live in the reddest of states (Oklahoma), my vote won't matter too much anyway.
broiles
(1,455 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I'd say the odds are about 10,000 to 1 that the candidate meeting that description will be the Democratic Party nominee.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)Why would I vote for a republican?
librechik
(30,957 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Anyone who thinks it's better on principle to lose to these nuts is dangerously naive, IMO.
This is not the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, or Eisenhower.
Give 'em an inch, they'll obliterate education, women's rights, and healthcare gains for REAL. I'm sick of seeing "the parties are the same / two sides of the same coin" bullshit.
Their pundits openly hold opinions such as: the border should be electrified; women who have abortions should be hanged.
I will not help them gain a rubber-stamp in the White House when Americans are generally too ignorant of how the branches of government work to keep them from gaining control of Congress.
libodem
(19,288 posts)LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)DinahMoeHum
(23,607 posts)Even if the nominee is Hillary.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)We simply can not let the GOP control all branches of government.
Their entire goal is to destroy our government.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I won't vote for a Republican, though.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)hunter
(40,690 posts)Fuck you, Ralph Nader. It's not "all more of the same."
Sometimes we have a choice between that which sucks and that which sucks much less.
I was born in the U.S.A. so I'm still free enough that I don't have to accept all the crap in those packages our political systems keep sending me.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,947 posts)most human beings have flaws, politicians are no exception!
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)I wanted Mo Udall or Fred Harris-even Sargeant Shriver. Carter was a moderate centrist but I voted fir him anyway because I'm a democrat and that's what we do, vote for democrats. My self-centered angst could have led me to vote 3rd party for Eugene McCarthy or just to stay home. 38 years later it's a vote I'm still proud of.
So, yes, I'll be voting for whoever my party nominates-proudly.
Kingofalldems
(40,278 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I vote for the candidate, not the party.
I am lucky to live in CT, where the Dem candidate usually wins, with or without my vote. This allows me to cast my vote for other candidates, who are normally more progressive than the Dem candidate.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)no es bueno
?
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)good luck with that!
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Not sure yet if I will work for "her."
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The thought of Huckabee or Cruz in the White House is about the worst nightmare for America that I can think of.
Wella
(1,827 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)So whoever has a "D" next to their name will have my support, regardless whether they deserve it.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and already with the Loyalty Oaths.
Wella
(1,827 posts)Just a question.
jambo101
(797 posts)I'll vote Democrat no matter who the candidate might be..
Stardust
(3,894 posts)lastlib
(28,264 posts)I might draw the line at Charles Manson, though. That's just me......and it's negotiable.
CBHagman
(17,493 posts)This is about policy, not personalities.
That said, personality is often the means by which a candidate energizes a campaign.