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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:38 PM Oct 2014

Well... Might As Well Post This Again... A Theory On Our Loss...

Good News, Democrats, You’re Going to Lose!
By BILL SCHER - PoliticoMag
September 30, 2014



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If the latest round of polls is accurate, Democrats will lose nearly every competitive Senate race, giving Republicans full control of Congress for the first time in 10 years.

This is excellent news for Democrats.

Instead of another two years of the same old gridlock that has turned voters off of both parties, Democrats will get to kick back with a large tub of buttery popcorn and watch the Republican soap opera hit peak suds.

In the House, the Boehner vs. Tea Party plot line will heat up, as several anti-Boehner party rebels are expected to win seats now held by more genteel Republicans. The Senate may end up more like a classic sitcom: Can two grandstanders like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz run for president at the same time without driving the majority leader crazy?

And if you thought that was enough conflict for one season, you’ll be on the edge of your seat as these two Animal Houses flail about and flagellate each other trying (or not trying) to keep the government open and avoid a debt default.

Sen. Mitch McConnell has already mapped out a confrontational budget strategy with no end game: Jam spending bills, which are necessary for funding the government, with a bunch of right-wing riders unpalatable to President Obama. What if Obama vetoes your bills, POLITICO recently asked him? “Yeah, he could,” shrugged McConnell. He skirts what would happen next: the proverbial hot potato would get tossed back to him and Boehner, and the simmering GOP civil war between the cautious and the revolutionary would be on full boil.

The inconvenient truth for the Republican Party is that it’s not ready for prime time, yet it’s on the verge of fully sharing with the president the responsibility of running the country.

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More: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/good-news-democrats-youre-going-to-lose-111467.html#.VD3O4mdkSSo


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Well... Might As Well Post This Again... A Theory On Our Loss... (Original Post) WillyT Oct 2014 OP
I have heard that theory... kentuck Oct 2014 #1
That's one way to look at it. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #2
Let's hope so anyway. calimary Oct 2014 #3
Be careful what you wish for, my friend. In 1932-33, the German Communist Party (or its KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #10
That, of course, is the other possibility. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #11
See my edited post for my true feelings about these fascist shitheads. KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #12
This is Politico telling us pscot Oct 2014 #4
I'm just a man who plays the Blues...have not heard that in years .thanks for the flashback lunasun Oct 2014 #6
that will be a catastrophe - a f'ing nightmare!! davekriss Oct 2014 #5
What about impeachment fadedrose Oct 2014 #7
To convict a president in the Senate takes a super majority. longship Oct 2014 #8
Nach Boehner, uns? Recursion Oct 2014 #9

kentuck

(115,441 posts)
1. I have heard that theory...
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:40 PM
Oct 2014

Probably won't make that much difference, actually. Whichever way you look, it looks like more gridlock.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,708 posts)
2. That's one way to look at it.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:47 PM
Oct 2014

And it might be the accurate way. Obama will veto things like repealing the ACA and some of the other crap they will certainly produce. Gridlock will continue and the GOPers will be totally responsible for it. They will have to own it in 2016.

I tend to be an optimist even in the face of GOP awfulness, and I'm inclined to think that their "win," if it occurs, will turn out to be the proverbial exploding cigar.

calimary

(90,193 posts)
3. Let's hope so anyway.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:59 PM
Oct 2014

I think this might be pretty accurate. I can't, for the life of me, see how gaining both Houses of Congress, with the agenda THEY have, will yield anything that's in any way positive. It'll be - "be careful what you wish for, mitch." When could they be counted on to do anything that makes sense, or helps the country at large, or saves us any money?

It'll also very nearly guarantee the White House stays true blue, and we may get majorities back in at least one House if not BOTH. There WILL be a backlash. Because the idiots who swallow this LOVELY CONservative shit that the GOP is promising will happen that makes the President somehow go away and everything he did somehow go away and everything gets back to the 1950s like they want - WILL NOT HAPPEN. So if we're disappointed by the election results after the election, THEY will be disappointed nonstop for the next two-year term.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
10. Be careful what you wish for, my friend. In 1932-33, the German Communist Party (or its
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:05 PM
Oct 2014

leadership) publicly announced itself eager to see Hitler and the Nazis take power because, so the KPD claimed, Hitler's accession to power would be the 'icebreaker' that triggered the great proletariat revolution.

Sorry to go all Godwin on you right out of the gate, but I have a grave sense of forboding about the next two years and I do not view the consolidation of power over both branches of Congress by outright fascists with any equanimity. Team of rivals, my ass. They're a bunch of racist misogynist shitheads and the last time any of them provided any service to this country was back in 1974 when Sen. Goldwater delivered the news to Nixon that he had to resign or face certain removal (and loss of pension, criminal culpability, etc.). That was 40 fucking years ago.

pscot

(21,044 posts)
4. This is Politico telling us
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:59 PM
Oct 2014

losing is really winning. I hope they aren't getting ahead of themselves like they did in 2012.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. I'm just a man who plays the Blues...have not heard that in years .thanks for the flashback
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:22 PM
Oct 2014

BB can tell them Never make your move too soon

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
7. What about impeachment
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:31 PM
Oct 2014

The last one was exciting...

But the Senate voted "No." This time it might be different....

Our President is a gentleman and a gentle man.....he doesn't deserve that.

Maybe just infighting will keep them all satisfied.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. To convict a president in the Senate takes a super majority.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:44 PM
Oct 2014

The Repubs don't have that, even if they all vote as a block.

No worries. And the impeachment will hurt their party very, very badly. The last two Democratic presidents impeached? Yup. The Repubs are just doing their jobs. Obstruct government at every opportunity. The question is, how can one run a political party on that plank alone?

Hopefully sometime soon, people will open their eyes.

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