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Amid the outcry over mass incarceration in America, The Wall St. Journal Tuesday maps the school-to-prison pipeline detailing alarming instances where routine kid stuff fights, drinking, some pot now includes a criminal record, thus beginning a lifetime of marginalization.
About 92,000 children in 2012 got misdemeanor weapons possession, disturbing the peace, theft or other charges for actions like participating in a water balloon fight, carrying a small pocket knife, getting in a hallway scuffle, wearing too much perfume, or swiping some chicken nuggets.
Police arrested 250 million people in the last 20 years. One in three Americans are now on the FBIs master criminal database, WSJ reports.
This arrest wave, in many ways, starts at school. Concern by parents and school officials over drug use and a spate of shootings prompted a rapid buildup of police officers on campus and led to school administrators referring minor infractions to local authorities.
Arrest records, even when charges are dropped, often trail youngsters into adulthood. Records, especially for teenagers tried as adults, have become more accessible on the Internet, but are often incomplete or inaccurate. Employers, banks, college admissions officers and landlords, among others, routinely check records online.
http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2014/10/22/one-in-three-adults-listed-in-fbis-master-criminal-database/
grasswire
(50,130 posts)No wonder we have no money for schools and services and infrastructure.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They took the number of people in the database and divided it by the current population.
They didn't bother with details like "Is everyone in the database still alive?" Answer is probably no, but the article doesn't say one way or the other.
If the database has everyone who's been arrested over the last few decades, and dead people are not being deleted, you'll get a statistic that is far worse than reality. But you'll also get a fantastic headline.
trof
(54,256 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)I suppose it would depend on exactly how many decades.
The mortality rate is something like .8%/year. So over the past couple decades, it would add up to about 16%, or 51 million folks who have died.
Adding that to the current adult population of 242 million you end up with 293 million folks.
Starting with our current 240 million adults and their number of 1/3, that would be 80 million.
Taking 80 million and dividing it by the larger number, adding all the deceased, it only drops the percent to 27%.
Which is still pretty gnarly, over 1/4 of all adults.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)building the database since the 1960s. Which means a lot more dead if they aren't purging it. And I doubt they'd purge the dead, in case new crimes were discovered after their deaths.
And I'm not saying it's a wonderful thing if it's "only" 1/6th instead of 1/3rd. Just think it's a bit overstated for the headline.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)I guess 50+ years would make a bigger difference than 20. But the number would still seem pretty ridiculous to me
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Gestapo/KGB/Securitate/Stasi ring to it. TPTB want to know everything about everybody. And not for anything resembling good reasons.
Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)The original handbook, or "Informationsheft GB" covered geography, economics, political system, government, legal system, administration, military, education system, important museums, press and radio, religion, parties, immigrants, freemasons, Jews, police apparatus and secret service. The "Black Book," as it is known in the tabloid press, was a later appendage and consisted of 104 pages of names listed in alphabetical order. "Fahndungsliste" translates into "wanted list," "Sonderfahndungsliste" into "especially wanted list" or "most wanted list."
Cross-referenced, I'm sure, with the No-Fly List, McCarthy's witch-hunt list, and Nixon's Enemies List?
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)bunch of disgruntled activists unhappy with the oligarchical system.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)from being employed by a contractor on a military base. Master Criminal has a nice sound to it. And yes, I understand it is the master list of criminals, just blathering while I kick this.
FSogol
(45,481 posts)Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)For dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)It must have been one of my minions getting too chatty. I'll have to get some truth serum and break out the shark pool.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)This is the logic of our "War on Drugs"
Recursion
(56,582 posts)... pot sure does persuade people to take a lot of risks.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If they want to smoke a bowl in their own living room.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I mean, "it's not their business" may be true, but they've de facto made it their business and ruin people's lives over it. Just seems strange that people judge that risk to be worth it.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Does that mean gay sex is addictive, or people are "strange" when they go against an obviously intrusive, unjust law?
Some laws are just wrong, period.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That is, I am absolutely certain that people will take huge risks for love (this isn't exactly news).
I'm less certain why a high from a non-addictive substance is enough of a draw for a majority of Americans to risk jail over it.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)i dont need to make other peoples' decisions for them, and if theyre not harming others, generally its not my business why they do what they do.
Either way, marijunana prohibition is a failed public policy, and its days are numbered.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Amen, and let's hope so.
roomtomove
(217 posts)a master criminal database......or did someone make this up?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)...and that the majority of those children (or former children) on the "criminals" list are, just maybe, browner than a paper bag?
FailureToCommunicate
(14,013 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)But no let's lock up the people who are on drugs.
TygrBright
(20,759 posts)I must remember to look up the etiquette for being a Napoleon of Crime.
I think I've got the evil laugh down.
Maybe I need an arm movement. Bonaparte had that hand-in jacket thing... Hitler had the straightarm salute... The possibilities are endless! I'm thinking of something involving a middle finger.
Napoleonically,
Bright
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)RKP5637
(67,107 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Have all adults at least, on file. Every citizen if possible. No doubt after 9/11 we are all probably suspects in anything they can find in our metadata. Not like they don't share and share alike.
TIA. Guess he finally got his wish.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)250,000 arrests does not equal one in three people, moron.
It could be the same person, arrested 250,000 times (as unlikely as that is.)