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Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 10:53 AM Oct 2014

Real Wives of ISIS Try to Pull in Other Women for the Brothers

ISIS has proved to be adept at using social media, and the group’s female followers, particularly those from England, are no exception. Glancing at assorted tweets, Tumblrs, Instagram, Ask.fm pages and Facebook accounts of ISIS supporters, it’s initially tricky to distinguish between the online white noise of 15-year-olds in Wigan, an English town, who want to seem edgy by supporting the group, and genuine followers on the ground.

A closer look, however, shows a cadre of real ISIS followers who have made the hijrah and are leaving an online account of the day-to-day workings of life under ISIS. By adopting more everyday, accessible approach to their posts, the women have carved out a social media niche, composing listicles like “10 Marriage Facts From the Islamic State,” which was published by a blogger who goes by “Bird of Jannah,” referring to the Islamic name for heaven. The list includes details such as how the Euphrates is every newlywed’s favorite date spot, how every ISIS fighter gets seven days off and how ISIS gives newly married couples a gift of $700. Well, that last one was later changed to the more general:

“Dawlah will give money or gifts to every newly-married couple.”

These women broadcast their realities through social media much like anyone of their generation, using the platforms to make sense of their lives by sharing personal details and reflections in public. Their ability to be relatable has made these women a crucial part of the ISIS media machine. And just like their male counterparts, the women are fighting a running battle with the Twitter police, who frequently suspend their accounts


http://www.vocativ.com/world/isis-2/wives-isis-attracting-western-women-syria/

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Real Wives of ISIS Try to Pull in Other Women for the Brothers (Original Post) Rhinodawg Oct 2014 OP
Wow! Seven hundred dollars and the opportunity to be oppressed? I'm there. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #1
You forgot the 7 day honeymoon to start your arranged marriage off right! riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #3
Oh yeah, 7 days in the desert covered in a hot, black cloth garbage sack notadmblnd Oct 2014 #7
But but.....the Euphrates!!!111!1! Nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #8
And i'm sure the ISIS men... Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #12
Maybe that's why they're sent to the Euphrates for their honeymoon? notadmblnd Oct 2014 #14
I don't even want to think about that. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #20
somehow I kinda doubt that...... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #27
Hey, at least it's easy to find a husband there flamingdem Oct 2014 #4
In West, ISIS Finds Women Eager to Enlist Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #9
Four females in one week. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #13
Well, we're constantly told we shouldnt judge this religion... Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #16
I feel the same about all religions notadmblnd Oct 2014 #17
Those are just the four that were caught in transit Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #53
See, I think it is just the opposite. I think these are children of middle eastern immigrants notadmblnd Oct 2014 #56
This is the story I was thinking about: Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #57
Croatia would be Eastern European notadmblnd Oct 2014 #59
Wrong finger,ladies world wide wally Oct 2014 #25
That explains how women get sucked into it. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #2
Follow their IP and arrest them seveneyes Oct 2014 #5
Here's her photo, all in red to connote fun and excitement! flamingdem Oct 2014 #6
I think the red makes her look hootchie notadmblnd Oct 2014 #10
Just another girls night flamingdem Oct 2014 #11
Well I just can't understand why any woman would not want to go through life dressed like that notadmblnd Oct 2014 #15
Welcome to NY--D Train Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #19
Medieval. nt cwydro Oct 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author world wide wally Oct 2014 #24
It's good to see our tax money put to good use CJCRANE Oct 2014 #18
Like PT Barnum said: cwydro Oct 2014 #21
They make it sound so romantic, when it's just the same old murder and mayhem day in and day out. world wide wally Oct 2014 #23
And some women get turned on by this. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #28
A dream come true world wide wally Oct 2014 #39
Marry a guy who wants to dump you for 72 virgins? Kaleva Oct 2014 #26
really....how on earth can a lowly female compete with that? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #30
72 different, detailed and long "honey-do" lists is not my idea of paradise. Kaleva Oct 2014 #44
LOL!!!! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #47
We might ask why these people are so alienated from the societies in which they live. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #29
I think it's more about identity than alienation flamingdem Oct 2014 #31
I think youre right. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #32
Young people are so vulnerable flamingdem Oct 2014 #40
They'll be widows soon Ex Lurker Oct 2014 #33
You make it sound like a bad thing. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #35
The Real Wives of Isis? Why hasn't Bravo made this a show? joeybee12 Oct 2014 #36
Here's the promo... Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #37
Boy, does that make me want to watch it! joeybee12 Oct 2014 #38
It's on the HISTORY channel.... Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #41
I was going to say A&E joeybee12 Oct 2014 #42
I can't watch it because the commercials for ISIS Mingle are SO annoying. nt pinboy3niner Oct 2014 #43
This is one of their tactics to lure young men and women who are lonely and desparate. DCBob Oct 2014 #45
this is the public transportation they have to look forward to rollin74 Oct 2014 #46
That is really fucked up. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #49
Meh... fifty years ago they would have been running off to join Che™ or the Red Brigades Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2014 #48
As already imagined by Seth MacFarlane Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2014 #50
LOL Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #51
How do you convince someone to voluntarily submit to a life of oppression? liberal N proud Oct 2014 #52
Apparently $700 and an all expense trip to the Euphrates. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #54
Of course, no OTHER religion would espouse such a philosophy... brooklynite Oct 2014 #55
vocatv: unreliable, biased bullshit whatchamacallit Oct 2014 #58

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
7. Oh yeah, 7 days in the desert covered in a hot, black cloth garbage sack
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:09 AM
Oct 2014

I'm getting wet just thinking about it.




For those of you with dirty minds, I was talking about wetness from sweat.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
12. And i'm sure the ISIS men...
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:21 AM
Oct 2014

smell so nice in their outfits and what women could resist a man with a kalashnikov ak 47.

works for me.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
14. Maybe that's why they're sent to the Euphrates for their honeymoon?
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:23 AM
Oct 2014

To wash their smelly genitals. Gee, I do hope their penises are as big as their guns

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
27. somehow I kinda doubt that......
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:17 PM
Oct 2014

Now that is an image....and army of men with small penii! Who HAVE to have women arranged bought and or stolen for them...

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
9. In West, ISIS Finds Women Eager to Enlist
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:14 AM
Oct 2014

The young Western Muslims trying to join radical Islamist groups in Syria and Iraq now include increasing numbers of young women who are seeking to fight or to become the wives of fighters. It is a new twist on a recruitment effort that has led several thousand men from Europe and beyond to flock to the battlefield.

In the past week alone, the authorities reported two instances of women and girls trying to get to Syria or take part in jihad. On Wednesday, the British police arrested a 25-year-old woman north of London on suspicion of preparing “terrorist acts” related to the fighting in Syria. Over the weekend, three teenage girls from the Denver suburbs — two sisters of Somali descent and a friend of Sudanese descent — were intercepted as they tried to travel to Syria.

Those were the latest in a series of cases of young Muslim women from the West trying to join militant groups like the Nusra Front or the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, which is waging a campaign to create a caliphate in Iraq and Syria. The largest numbers of Western recruits have come from France and Britain, but others have come from Austria, Belgium and Spain.

For several months, the Islamic State has been making a concerted effort to enlist women and girls. It is deploying female recruiters, producing new publications and creating online forums.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/world/europe/as-islamists-seek-to-fill-ranks-more-western-women-answer-their-call.html?_r=0


notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
13. Four females in one week.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:21 AM
Oct 2014

Boy, their plan is really taking off.

Though the females may be located in the west, I would hardly refer to fundamentalist Muslim ladies as "western females".



I truly loathe religion for fucking people's minds like this.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
16. Well, we're constantly told we shouldnt judge this religion...
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:30 AM
Oct 2014

that all religions are the same.

tough not to.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
17. I feel the same about all religions
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:33 AM
Oct 2014

Religion fux people in their heads. Especially fundies of any sort.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
53. Those are just the four that were caught in transit
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:58 AM
Oct 2014

And I think "Western" females is a euphemism for "Caucasian, preferably with Nordic looks, etc."

There was another story I'd read a couple of weeks back about the professional "wife-hunter" consultants who are tasked to find, vet and interview prospective wives for terrorist leaders in the ME...Of course the "Western" women are the most coveted and bring the highest fees...

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
56. See, I think it is just the opposite. I think these are children of middle eastern immigrants
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:32 AM
Oct 2014

They're not stealing the white women.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
59. Croatia would be Eastern European
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 03:46 PM
Oct 2014

I really don't think American Women or Western European women will be fighting each other over these Middle Eastern men.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
5. Follow their IP and arrest them
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:05 AM
Oct 2014

No person supporting global terrorists should be allowed freedom in a free society.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
10. I think the red makes her look hootchie
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:14 AM
Oct 2014

She should be more ashamed of her gender and only display herself in black.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
11. Just another girls night
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:20 AM
Oct 2014

There was a video of a woman in Raqqa who was pulled over by an enforcer and told her veil was too transparent, so these might still be too racy for Isis standards.

Response to flamingdem (Reply #11)

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
18. It's good to see our tax money put to good use
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:42 AM
Oct 2014

with the help of our allies.

Now the people of Syria have freedom from the secular state where christians and minorities were respected.

And thanks to the social media platforms that made it possible for them to link up and spread their propaganda.

(sarcasm)

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
28. And some women get turned on by this.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:18 PM
Oct 2014

Those 2 Austrian girls apparently were and are now pregnant and stuck in Syria.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
30. really....how on earth can a lowly female compete with that?
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:20 PM
Oct 2014

but I still think one "experienced" woman would be much more fun than 72 or even 7200 virgins!

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
29. We might ask why these people are so alienated from the societies in which they live.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:20 PM
Oct 2014

And what can be done about that. But that gets messy and complicated.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
31. I think it's more about identity than alienation
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:33 PM
Oct 2014

That's a powerful draw, to be a part of a tribe, to belong. People will give it all up for that. Gangs are an example of this - even though people know it will disadvantage them the belonging sucks them in.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
32. I think youre right.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:00 PM
Oct 2014

ISIS uses social media to attract disenfranchised young women.

Half of me feels sorry for them. The other half is pissed at the parents.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
40. Young people are so vulnerable
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 04:37 PM
Oct 2014

when they're trying to figure it all out. A one size fits all solution looks pretty good at that point. They don't have a way to conceptualize the downside due to lack of experience. If their families were irrationally strict, which is my take on any Muslim family that insists on retro behavior for women, they're already dealing with lack of grounded religious irrationality, so they don't have solid ground to begin with!

Ex Lurker

(3,811 posts)
33. They'll be widows soon
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:25 PM
Oct 2014

The ISIS fighters are dying like flies. So they'll be alone, and maybe pregnant or with a child, in a strange land where the quasi-caliphate can't keep the lights or water on, but can damn well make sure you wear the Burkha 24-7.

Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
45. This is one of their tactics to lure young men and women who are lonely and desparate.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:57 PM
Oct 2014

Many cults have done the same in the past. It can work but at some point the whole thing collapses like pyramid scheme.

rollin74

(1,969 posts)
46. this is the public transportation they have to look forward to
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 05:00 PM
Oct 2014

women's bus in ISIS controlled Raqqa

:large

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
48. Meh... fifty years ago they would have been running off to join Che™ or the Red Brigades
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:52 PM
Oct 2014

There are always juvenile dirtbags dreaming about being revolutionaries.

brooklynite

(94,256 posts)
55. Of course, no OTHER religion would espouse such a philosophy...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:27 AM
Oct 2014
Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.…

Ephesians 22
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