Anonymous Hacks Neo-Nazi Website, Finds Ron Paul Connection

[KamaAina]

http://samuel-warde.com/2013/11/anonymous-hacks-website-finds-ron-paul-connection/

Internet hactivist group “Anonymous” broke into the white supremacist website America Third Position (A3P) and found more than they bargained for. In the document dump that consisted of private forum messages, emails, organizational notes and other personal information, they found connections with former Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.

The documents revealed Paul held meetings with the group and regularly met with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of directors and participated in a “bridging tactic” between A3P and the Ron Paul Revolution. Not surprisingly, A3P is heavily involved in campaigning for Paul. Also revealed, Paul met with Nick Griffin, the leader of the British National Party — the UK fascist group with neo-Nazi roots.

Live Leaks reported:

“Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was one hacked by the collective) coordinating meetings between Paul and other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the neo-Nazi group Paul (sic). ‘I’m going to go to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,’ reads an email to an A3P member dated January 2011. ‘Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).’ In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of other German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb 12. I’ll send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul, newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be here on WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and we are really gathering some quality here.”’

Paul denies the connection. Paul also denied authoring a series of racist newsletters, despite confirmation from his staff that he signed off on every detail.

I'm shocked, shocked to find out that neo-Nazism is going on in this establishment.

[rhett o rick]

1. I think The Third Way would choose neo-nazi's over Anonymous. Just sayin' nm

[KyleMcShades]

2. Libertarians are...

far right extremists in disguise. But sometimes they get caught and expose themselves. They need to be called out.

In my experience with them, they believe in slavery too.

[UglyGreed]

3. Just one of

the many reasons I hate the Pauls.

[zappaman]

4. Great way to slur fellow Democrats, RicK.

Just sayin'.

[riqster]

5. "Neo"?

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. This ...

“I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb 12. I’ll send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul, newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be here on WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and we are really gathering some quality here.”’

To me, is far more troubling than any Ron Paul connection.

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. Fellow??? ...

Just sayin'.

[zappaman]

8. +1 n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

9. In fairness ...

In my experience with them, they believe in slavery too.

While they may not PERSONALLY believe in slavery, they just don't believe the government should have a say in whether a private citizen owns a slave ... Just like with abortion, they may not personally favor abortion; they just don't believe the government should have a say in whether a private citizen has one.

... Oh wait!

[tridim]

10. They are ALL connected at the roots. nt

[gratuitous]

11. For someone who's not-a-racist

Ron Paul sure has the worst luck. Turns out all those people writing for his little newsletter were white supremacists. The people he meets with on the sly are white supremacists. So many of his policy pronouncements track closely with white supremacists. Looks like his boy Rand was in on some of the meetings at CPAC, too.

But Ron denies it all, so who are you going to believe? The guy is just so unlucky!

[JaneyVee]

12. There's always one.

[gregcrawford]

13. Why is anyone surprised?

Corporatism is endemic in Amerika; it is going to be the death of democracy in this country. The self-proclaimed "Father of Fascism," Benito Mussolini (He really wasn't) inspired Hitler. He also preferred to call his form of government, "Corporatism."

Dubya's grandfather, Prescott Bush, laundered money during WW II for the Nazi elite through a bank in the Netherlands.

The Koch brothers' father, Fred, Sr. was an ardent Nazi sympathizer. So was Charles Lindbergh, and so were many, many other supposedly "Upstanding Americans."

Everything that conservatives say and do defiles the principles this country was SUPPOSED to stand for.

Paul the Elder has been accused of fascist leanings, but no one on the Right seems to mind. Maybe now, even the "Three Monkeys" media (Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil) that have been mouthpieces for the Right for-goddam-ever will have to acknowledge the treachery that is SOP for the political and economic "Ruling Class."

May Mussolini's fate befall every one of these bastards!

Way to go, Anonymous!

[jalan48]

14. Why?

Why would Paul do this? The political downside should be more harmful than any potential upside. To have an on-going dialogue with these haters makes no sense unless he thinks a large number of Americans sympathize with their racist views. Maybe this is how he reads the political winds in America's future.

[KamaAina]

15. True dat

and welcome to DU!

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. But ...

the sins of the father should not be visited upon the son unless, of course, the son (though commission or omission) adopts the sin.

Further, ron paul is a VERY unlikely 2016 Presidential candidate; rand, on the other, is among the gop frontrunners, or if he had any real convictions, would break off from the gop (taking his daddy's "revolution" with him) and run as a libertarian.

[SmittynMo]

17. And another one bites the dust.

NEXT!!!!!

[C Moon]

18. If they could have looked further, they'd probably find Dick Cheney, as well.

[AverageJoe90]

19. No surprises, here, btw.

BTW, if anyone's interested, Dave Emory's Spitfire List site had some pretty interesting things to say about Ron Paul along those general lines. Just google "Dave Emory Ron Paul" to get started.

[stevenleser]

20. Wherever you find extreme right wing beliefs, Fascism and Neonazism are likely to be part of the

mix.

[GeorgeGist]

21. Mentally ill people have gotten elected to high office ...

[True Blue Door]

22. Not surprised in the least, but has this been confirmed and the materials authenticated?

If so, it certainly fits the pattern. Libertarianism as a movement has been associated with this species of degenerate since the Confederacy.

[RandiFan1290]

23. Jury's in!

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Great way to slur fellow Democrats,

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[annabanana]

24. "the leaves turn together"

.... the more things change...

[TampaAnimusVortex]

25. I'm not entirely convinced on that last count.

Not sure how you get slavery out of this...

[Luminous Animal]

26. I followed the link to another link led to another link where the docs were supposed to be

hosted and then another link and.....

no docs.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. "fellow"???

hardly...

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. agreed ^^^

my exact thoughts.

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. that would require integrity...a characteristic lacking in both father and son!

[Hoyt]

30. I worked for a state Medical Society in 1980s. I know for a fact Ron Paul wrote racist newsletters.

I saw some of them.

They were handwritten and poorly produced, but clearly written by a racist physician out of Texas. He had some front physician organization that I think is still around.

Don't remember much of the details of what was written. I think it was more along the line of encouraging physicians not to participate in Medicaid and similar government programs.

[VanillaRhapsody]

31. I swear...I fell into the White Supremacy honey....it was all just a harmless accident!

[hifiguy]

32. Libertarians are, for the most part,

reichwing greedhead republicans who want to smoke weed, watch porn and blow their money legally on hookers and cocaine. Subtract the jesu-wheezing from any random right-winger and voila, a libertarian.

[VanillaRhapsody]

33. the U.S.A. has been at war with Corporatism and Fascism since we dumped the East India Trading Co.

tea into the Boston harbor...we have ALWAYS been at war with Corporation....and lately they are winning!

[True Blue Door]

34. Indeed, it does appear to be a hoax at first blush.

I won't say concretely that it is, but you are correct that there don't appear to be documents at the end of the link chain.

[underpants]

35. RAND is done too

IMHO

[Android3.14]

36. Thank you for the old news

[DesMoinesDem]

38. Edit: apparently I can't reply to the person I'm trying to reply to.

[Luminous Animal]

39. Something screwy is going on here because it is showing as a reply to me when I go

to "My Posts."

[KamaAina]

42. It is indeed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10134339

[Blue_Tires]

41. Nothing new

I've been pointing this out since '08...It is good to have documented proof once again, though...

If anyone wants to hold their nose and start looking in the archives at Stormfront in '07 and '08, they will find more connections...