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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:04 PM Oct 2014

Ex-Congressman Gets HIS Cocaine Bust EXPUNGED




...Someone needs to look into this.....smells dirty to the hill.....



Former Rep. Trey Radel (R-FL), who resigned earlier this year after getting busted for cocaine, has had his record expunged, NBC Washington reported Friday.


Radel had been told that if he successfully completed probation the charge against him would be dismissed and he could apply to have his record expunged.

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia said Friday that Radel completed all the conditions of his probation and was granted an early termination of his probation in July. The spokesman, William Miller, said Radel then asked to have his case dismissed and his record expunged, and prosecutors agreed with the request.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Former-Fla-Congressman-has-record-expunged-Trey-Radel-281122432.html


It was one year ago when Radel was caught trying to purchase cocaine in an undercover federal sting. He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of cocaine possession in November 2013.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trey-radel-cocaine-congressman-record-expunged
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Ex-Congressman Gets HIS Cocaine Bust EXPUNGED (Original Post) Segami Oct 2014 OP
How cool is that? Turbineguy Oct 2014 #1
Does anyone understand what goes into getting a record expunged? TheNutcracker Oct 2014 #2
In my case the judge offered it as a condition of my sentence. If I paid my fines, Ed Suspicious Nov 2014 #8
Same here tazkcmo Nov 2014 #28
It's called pre-trail intervention in FL. Lochloosa Oct 2014 #3
Any statistics on how even handedly this statute is applied? MontyPow Nov 2014 #6
Actually, for a first time drug offense, it's the perferred option for the prosecuturer. Lochloosa Nov 2014 #9
For minorities as well? I find that hard to believe. MontyPow Nov 2014 #20
Pretty evenly, for a first time mis., in my experience. It's when you have larger weight, msanthrope Nov 2014 #11
I find the even application hard to believe. MontyPow Nov 2014 #18
So if you have no facts to back it up, GGJohn Nov 2014 #22
It was in DC and a federal misdemeanor charge Major Nikon Nov 2014 #7
Well,.. Segami Oct 2014 #4
It's a condition of pre-trial. The offices would have stats on it. nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #12
Thanks. Segami Nov 2014 #15
White privilege? Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #5
No--pre-trial diversion which is offered to pretty much everyone with a mis. drug charge. nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #10
I wonder what the stats are based on race. Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #13
Thought all that shit was white. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #17
So what. It lives forever on the internets! yellowcanine Nov 2014 #14
Don't worry, Cocaine'll make you into a New Man!.... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #16
Wait...so he won't be a convicted felon? Rex Nov 2014 #19
Anyone can apply to have their record expunged, Live and Learn Nov 2014 #21
I think this story is more about getting expunged based on privilege. Rex Nov 2014 #23
I realize that but I don't think it was necessarily based on privilege Live and Learn Nov 2014 #24
I agree that it should be impartial and not based on favor or notoriety. Rex Nov 2014 #25
Agreed, especially the voting part. I can't believe that is even allowed. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #26
It is illegal in Texas for a felon to vote - which is wrong imo. Rex Nov 2014 #27

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
8. In my case the judge offered it as a condition of my sentence. If I paid my fines,
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 01:19 AM
Nov 2014

restitution, and successfully completed my probation he had the felony conviction expunged from my record. I only had to complete my sentence and then it just happened without me needing to apply. I was just a very young adult when convicted, im thinking that had something to do with the offer.

I am white. Fyi.

I think everyone - red, white, black, green, yellow, or brown - should be offered a second chance like I got.

tazkcmo

(7,303 posts)
28. Same here
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:14 PM
Nov 2014

Misdemeanor, first time offense. It's pretty common. We have bigger problems than this former Rep being treated just like the other first time offenders in misdemeanor cases.

Lochloosa

(16,073 posts)
9. Actually, for a first time drug offense, it's the perferred option for the prosecuturer.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:26 AM
Nov 2014

Drug rehab, random testing, fines and no court time.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. Pretty evenly, for a first time mis., in my experience. It's when you have larger weight,
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:09 AM
Nov 2014

issues of guns or violence, prior convictions, injury to victims, that it may not apply.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. It was in DC and a federal misdemeanor charge
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 01:18 AM
Nov 2014

But it sounds like the program is basically the same.

Shouldn't be a crime to begin with.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
4. Well,..
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:29 PM
Oct 2014

my question is why did the 'prosecutors' agreed to his request to have his case 'dismissed and record expunged'..?

How many times have these prosecutors agreed to other requests dealing with the 'same' charges?

Smells bad.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Wait...so he won't be a convicted felon?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:00 PM
Nov 2014

Gee...do all...HAHAHAHAHA NM, I kid I know the answer already.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
21. Anyone can apply to have their record expunged,
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:07 PM
Nov 2014

at least in CA. It is up to a judge to grant it and is usually based on post conviction behavior.

Expungement allows people to get jobs. Law enforcement will still know about the record and it won't help anyone trying to pass a background investigation for a security position but it does allow ex-convicts to get gainful employment and reduces recidivism rates.

We should be applauding this part of the system and asking that it be expanded.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
23. I think this story is more about getting expunged based on privilege.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:10 PM
Nov 2014

It will help him get re-elected.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
24. I realize that but I don't think it was necessarily based on privilege
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:15 PM
Nov 2014

although I don't know the specifics of Florida's expungement process.

We should be demanding that it be expanded for all. These days a criminal conviction is a life sentence even if one is not incarcerated and it hurts society has a whole.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. I agree that it should be impartial and not based on favor or notoriety.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:17 PM
Nov 2014

Felons cannot own guns or vote. That is a pretty big burden to carry, after supposedly doing your 'time'. Sounds like double punishment to me.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
26. Agreed, especially the voting part. I can't believe that is even allowed.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:22 PM
Nov 2014

Thankfully in CA, felons can vote after they are freed but I think even the incarcerated should be allowed to vote. Their lives, after all, are completely dependent on lawmakers.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. It is illegal in Texas for a felon to vote - which is wrong imo.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 04:25 PM
Nov 2014

If we believe in "they did their time" then why not let them get back to being part of the civilian workforce? How can they assimilate back into 'the world' if they cannot vote or own a gun? Might as well ban them from eating apple pie and baseball.

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