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Last edited Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:49 PM - Edit history (1)
The roommate of CDC nurse Kaci Hickox developed Ebola displayed signs of Ebola.
WAGM TV reported, via PJ Media:
Sheila Pinette of the Maine CDC has released information that the roommate of Kaci Hickox, while in West Africa has displayed signs of ebola. Pinette says The respondents roommate in Africa became infected without knowing how she became infected with Ebola. (Any potential risk to respondent from that incident has passed). This is one of 35 points Pinette made while filing a verified petition for public health order yesterday with the state. Kaci Hickox was issued temporary court order.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/nurse-roommate-of-kaci-hickox-developed-ebola/
http://wagmtv.com/state-of-maine-document-reports-kaci-hickoxs-roommate-in-africa-developed-ebola/
Who was the roommate? Man or woman or as we used to do A/S/L I want to know if this is BS, and if it is did Lepage's CDC head lie under oath by swearing on an affidavit affirming to that fact that her roommate had Ebola or signs of Ebola when no such information can be found. At least I can't find it. What happened to this alleged roommate did she/he die, get well what? Inquiring minds want to know.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)touching it. The only way it interests me is if the potentially infected roommate was American--where did she go, what happened to her? Because I thought we had known all of the cases that were brought back here.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)There must be legal consequences for an official to do that.
CanonRay
(14,113 posts)when it mattered. Now it is just a quaint, unused term. It's just everyday business for Republicans.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)could be very bad for Paul LePage. I see his fingerprints all over this.
"Pinette also has worked with Tarren Bragdon, another LePage transition adviser and director of the Maine Heritage Policy Center, a conservative think tank."
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)With the way certain powerful people can get away with stuff in America, they know they are covered, at least until later when the truth comes out. Higher ups will never be punished. It will always be someone down in the pecking order who will get punishment. Top officials get a slap on the wrist at best. That is just how it works. So, those official government documents like the Constitution are sort of just placeholders and hardly ever reflect how things really work.
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)This could get interesting if that is true and Liarpage is caught red handed......
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Could be because I am overseas right now.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and she answered that is incorrect information. She stated twice that was incorrect, and said she didn't want to dwell on it, she wanted to focus on other things.
The blog claiming it states that her roommate had Ebola, but the text says her roommate developed symptoms of Ebola. So possibly her roommate spike a temp and then tested neg. The early symptoms of Ebola are the same as symptoms of other diseases endemic in the region, including malaria.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)It also mentions that she has "personal knowledge of the matters to which I depose herein, except to those matters which I state upon information a belief..."
So perhaps she was misinformed about the roommate having Ebola, or about her actually being a roommate of the person in question.
spanone
(135,874 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)spanone
(135,874 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)bald face lie. no repercussions.
but people are worried about a asymptomatic nurse?
randys1
(16,286 posts)if it isnt a lie, it will surprise me
sorry, no more nice guy
we are 3 days away from terrorists taking over a branch of our government
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)by this alleged roommate contracting Ebola.
Pinette says The respondents roommate in Africa became infected without knowing how she became infected with Ebola. (Any potential risk to respondent from that incident has passed).
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Providence Milwaukie Hospital is in Portland, Oregon. I know that journalism is dead and spelling is now optional, but reading articles instead of just headlines is a good idea.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Regardless, hoping she does not have ebola
GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)I'll believe this when I hear it from somewhere other than a right-wing BS web site.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)What I want to know is the name and outcome of the alleged Ebola contaminated roommate of Hickox. Some say Hickox said it's not true, but the head of LiarPage's CDC Pinette, someone who worked for Heritage Policy Center, swore out an affidavit trying to keep the nurse quarantined stating that Hickox's roommate contracted the disease......Did the roommate? I can't find any info that this is true.
GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)Why not post a legitimate link?
Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #22)
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GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)YOU are the one who made the assertion that this woman had ebola in your original post, not me. Why should I have to provide a link to back it up? Buzz off yourself. If you don't want to "argue", then don't come to a Democratic web site and post your right wing bullshit.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)I never suggested any of what you said I did.
GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)You link to a far right-winger's web site (easily determined by running a google search of the site's name.) That, right there, should tell you that it's BS. All I did was point it out, and ask for a legitimate link.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I've just confirmed she was a LePage appointee back in 2011. Not exactly a unanimous confirmation, either.
http://www.maine.gov/governor/lepage/administration/appointments/past_appointments.shtml#confirmable
Cleita
(75,480 posts)outage due to rain. There were several slams on Hickox including a stupid parody song her her riding a bicycle. Considering the sources this is coming from, I call bullshit. Even if someone in proximity to her did develop Ebola after they stopped rooming together, the roommate would not have passed the virus to her while she/he showed no symptoms.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)What was the name of the alleged roommate, what was the outcome of the alleged Ebola infection the roommate had? I don't buy Pinettes story and I would like to catch her perjuring herself. Maybe I am reading more into this than there is, but it smells to me and I would like an answer where Pinette got her info and if it is true. I keep hearing Hickox denies this was true but can't find anything to back that up.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)that person would need to come forward and self-identify.
Mayhew was a LePage appointment. The vast majority of appointments were confirmed unanimously. She is one of a handful that were not.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)She lied on the legal document she signed about Hickox's roommate having symptoms or having Ebola. Because if the patient lives that information would not be available to the head of Maine's CDC? I'm just curious how someone can falsify a legal document and there are no reprecussions. If this is true. Maybe I am overtired but sounds to me like LePage and Pinette are getting away with perjury right to our faces.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)or have information of the claims in the affidavit.
So she can say she was misinformed.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)That could've been a fucking sneeze but lets not jump to conclusions. Developing Ebola & the signs of Ebola are 2 drastically different things....
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It could have been before Hickox even lived with them, for example. We can infer that the person either died or recovered over 21 days ago. But had they died, that likely would have been included.
Hickox was last in SL on October 20, 2014. The roommate could have been infected and recovered before she live with them.
It also reads as if the roommate was also a health worker treating Ebola patients. It is in the paragraph discussing PPEs and infection risks for nurses.
In other words, it is of no significance whatsoever. It is used just to illustrate that sometimes nurses get infected without knowing exactly how (other than that they were regularly in direct contact with Ebola patients fluids).
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)this is a confusing OP. Or maybe I'm still not awake.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Hickox came back to Maine and defied LePage (T'Billy) and his handpicked CDC Dr. Pinette. So the State of Maine got a court order to take away Hickox Constitutional right to freedom by trying to impose on her a quarantine. The former Heritage Policy Center(Koch) worker now Maine CDC director, Dr. Pinette filed 2 documents to have Hickox's civil and Constitutional rights removed, in part by (my words) lying on a sworn affidavit that Hickox while in SL room-mated with someone that contracted Ebola. I have heard but not verified that Hickox denied this but Fox Snooze affiliate in Fort Kent is running the story, that she roomed with an Ebola victim. What I can't find, except a short note on one story, is Hickox denying the allegation or the name of and what happened to this alleged Ebola victim that she supposedly lived with. Perjury is a serious crime even though others here are making light of it.
LePage and his cronies lost in the court so now the buffoon is out spreading more lies about the nurse and Ebola.
I think I covered all the bases. Oh and some here have faulted me on the link being RWNJ site, well they are running this story on every RWNJ site there is, and even on main stream sites now the allegation has popped up but that's it just the allegation no citation no documentation. Anyway I give up if no one else cares if they are lied to by RWNJ clowns and they continue to get away with it with no repercussions, yes we are doomed. But we did it to ourselves.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)you have no idea whether the claim is true or not!
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Why did Pinette even bring this up when she also notes that any risk has passed. If it's even true for that matter. Kaci has denied this.
Maine - Vote, vote, vote! Get rid of Ebola Gov. LePage.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:02 PM - Edit history (1)
Thread title claims she did develope ebola, article says signs of ebola, a very different thing. There is nothing in the news or on the web about this either.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Hickox came back to Maine and defied LePage (T'Billy) and his handpicked CDC Dr. Pinette. So the State of Maine got a court order to take away Hickox Constitutional right to freedom by trying to impose on her a quarantine. The former Heritage Policy Center(Koch) worker now Maine CDC director, Dr. Pinette filed 2 documents to have Hickox's civil and Constitutional rights removed, in part by (my words) lying on a sworn affidavit that Hickox while in SL room-mated with someone that contracted Ebola. I have heard but not verified that Hickox denied this but Fox Snooze affiliate in Fort Kent is running the story, that she roomed with an Ebola victim. What I can't find, except a short note on one story, is Hickox denying the allegation or the name of and what happened to this alleged Ebola victim that she supposedly lived with. Perjury is a serious crime even though others here are making light of it.
LePage and his cronies lost in the court so now the buffoon is out spreading more lies about the nurse and Ebola.
I think I covered all the bases. Oh and some here have faulted me on the link being RWNJ site, well they are running this story on every RWNJ site there is, and even on main stream sites now the allegation has popped up but that's it just the allegation no citation no documentation. Anyway I give up if no one else cares if they are lied to by RWNJ clowns and they continue to get away with it with no repercussions, yes we are doomed. But we did it to ourselves.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)That is my complaint. I think you are saying rw sites are also, but why do it here?
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)They are the ones saying that she roomed with Ebola victim that no one ever heard of. I still think perjury is quite serious sorry I thought we were a nation of laws especially for our officials.
http://wagmtv.com/state-of-maine-document-reports-kaci-hickoxs-roommate-in-africa-developed-ebola/
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Which is lying under oath.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)That might help.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)I spend most of my time trying to debunk the crazy BS that RWNJ's are spreading on POLITIX a real swamp infested with the overflow from TOPIX, ever heard of either of them?
I wasn't sure I was allowed to edit a title if I post for a source.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)I'm not trying again, Eff it no one seems to care, so why should I. Beating myself over the head and I already have a headache with fever. Maybe Ebola? More likely Dengue.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Like I said, who cares, certainly doesn't seem the ones here do so Eff it. Let them get away with perjury. You could start a new thread and possibly do it the "right" way, seems my methods are not acceptable here. Like I said to someone I have a fever and headache.....
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)... is that it asserts as fact something that is unsupported and in dispute, and it is not the actual full title of the linked article.
In the video (link posted more than once upthread) Kaci Hickox replied, when asked about the state's assertion about the roommate, "This is incorrect information."
Doctors Without Borders also said that Hickox had her own room during the assignment in Sierra Leone.
The actual title of the linked article does not assert the allegation about the roommate as fact; it asserts only the fact that the state agency said it in its affidavit:
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)feel better soon, and feeling crappy too. Thank you for taking the time with me to clarify what you meant.
elias49
(4,259 posts)You need to find somewhere else to drop turds like this, thanks.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)uppityperson
(115,679 posts)that point is not clear.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Feel free to do so. I really have to go lie down, pounding headache and Tylenol did nothing for me.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)Did those also have the same headline?
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)They are trying to use this to call for quarantines and banning of flights and entry into the country.
Please read where I tried to sum it all up and then decide if perjury may have been committed.
http://wagmtv.com/state-of-maine-document-reports-kaci-hickoxs-roommate-in-africa-developed-ebola/
Hickox came back to Maine and defied LePage (T'Billy) and his handpicked CDC Dr. Pinette. So the State of Maine got a court order to take away Hickox Constitutional right to freedom by trying to impose on her a quarantine. The former Heritage Policy Center(Koch) worker now Maine CDC director, Dr. Pinette filed 2 documents to have Hickox's civil and Constitutional rights removed, in part by (my words) lying on a sworn affidavit that Hickox while in SL room-mated with someone that contracted Ebola. I have heard but not verified that Hickox denied this but Fox Snooze affiliate in Fort Kent is running the story, that she roomed with an Ebola victim. What I can't find, except a short note on one story, is Hickox denying the allegation or the name of and what happened to this alleged Ebola victim that she supposedly lived with. Perjury is a serious crime even though others here are making light of it.
LePage and his cronies lost in the court so now the buffoon is out spreading more lies about the nurse and Ebola.
I think I covered all the bases. Oh and some here have faulted me on the link being RWNJ site, well they are running this story on every RWNJ site there is, and even on main stream sites now the allegation has popped up but that's it just the allegation no citation no documentation. Anyway I give up if no one else cares if they are lied to by RWNJ clowns and they continue to get away with it with no repercussions, yes we are doomed. But we did it to ourselves.
Feel better with that?
Iggo
(47,565 posts)After that, it doesn't matter what you're trying to do. You should have changed it when people called out the bullshit very early on in this thread. Then maybe you could have continued with what you're trying to do. In the future, fix the bullshit from the start instead of defending it to the point of derailing the conversation you were trying to have.
Logical
(22,457 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)They are trying to use this to call for quarantines and banning of flights and entry into the country.
Please read where I tried to sum it all up and then decide if perjury may have been committed.
http://wagmtv.com/state-of-maine-document-reports-kaci-hickoxs-roommate-in-africa-developed-ebola/
Hickox came back to Maine and defied LePage (T'Billy) and his handpicked CDC Dr. Pinette. So the State of Maine got a court order to take away Hickox Constitutional right to freedom by trying to impose on her a quarantine. The former Heritage Policy Center(Koch) worker now Maine CDC director, Dr. Pinette filed 2 documents to have Hickox's civil and Constitutional rights removed, in part by (my words) lying on a sworn affidavit that Hickox while in SL room-mated with someone that contracted Ebola. I have heard but not verified that Hickox denied this but Fox Snooze affiliate in Fort Kent is running the story, that she roomed with an Ebola victim. What I can't find, except a short note on one story, is Hickox denying the allegation or the name of and what happened to this alleged Ebola victim that she supposedly lived with. Perjury is a serious crime even though others here are making light of it.
LePage and his cronies lost in the court so now the buffoon is out spreading more lies about the nurse and Ebola.
I think I covered all the bases. Oh and some here have faulted me on the link being RWNJ site, well they are running this story on every RWNJ site there is, and even on main stream sites now the allegation has popped up but that's it just the allegation no citation no documentation. Anyway I give up if no one else cares if they are lied to by RWNJ clowns and they continue to get away with it with no repercussions, yes we are doomed. But we did it to ourselves.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Silly ass nonsense spouted by imbeciles.
4bucksagallon
(975 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Spouted by idiots.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)That makes the whole thing sound very suspect.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)The whole thing is suspect.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)since she was here and far removed from the alleged roommate by the time she allegedly displayed any symptoms and could possibly have become infectious herself. When will this nonsense end?
riversedge
(70,303 posts)Others in this thread have also noticed that.