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is anyone listening to the Obama Live Presser? (Original Post) Raine1967 Nov 2014 OP
Yeah. Autumn Nov 2014 #1
Yep. polichick Nov 2014 #2
Probably not. MineralMan Nov 2014 #3
Yes and I would vote for him again. rwheeler31 Nov 2014 #4
Yes, he's dreaming Politicalboi Nov 2014 #5
Yeah, he needs to get over that "My Daddy really does love me" fantasy. Myrina Nov 2014 #8
Damn, that C+ in Psych 101 is really paying off, isn't it? 11 Bravo Nov 2014 #17
You really are not listening to him, it appears. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #42
"Daddy issues" --really? marions ghost Nov 2014 #51
Because Americans impose a double standard on the two parties-- Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #71
I'm sorry, Myrina, but really? AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #77
Can't - JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #6
I am. As usual, he makes a lot of sense, but... TreasonousBastard Nov 2014 #7
Refreshing marions ghost Nov 2014 #53
Sorry he's not entertaining enough for you frazzled Nov 2014 #63
It has nothing to do with entertainment... TreasonousBastard Nov 2014 #88
Why would he be? His party just got trounced by throwing him under the bus Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #72
I just expressed those same sentiments to a group of individuals an hour ago... Deuce Nov 2014 #83
yep steve2470 Nov 2014 #9
I just can not but counting on DU to fill me in. nt nc4bo Nov 2014 #10
I will be interested in that take. I am and Raine1967 Nov 2014 #11
Thanks Raine! nt nc4bo Nov 2014 #12
I'm listening to it as well. MineralMan Nov 2014 #13
Did he say veto or executive order? morningfog Nov 2014 #14
He said he will do EOs that they are free to replace with legislation. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #22
Yes. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #26
Yup. Full of inside-the beltway yuck-yucks... truebrit71 Nov 2014 #15
working with repukes is what turned people off Skittles Nov 2014 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #16
Welcome to DU alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #18
Working on it. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2014 #21
Pew pew pew alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #45
LOL. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2014 #47
A couple of tweets, Raine.. Cha Nov 2014 #19
EXACTLY! Raine1967 Nov 2014 #27
You're Welcome, Raine! Cha Nov 2014 #31
Update! Cha Nov 2014 #84
earlier on MSNBC someone said President Obama is our FIREWALL napkinz Nov 2014 #33
yep he is our firewall nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #37
Yeah, I do too!.. that's what I've been saying all morning.. that Obama on the front lines between Cha Nov 2014 #50
VETO! stage left Nov 2014 #56
Like that graphic! bravenak Nov 2014 #78
Coincidently what I've been saying all day, bravenak~ The Graphic is very very Cha Nov 2014 #80
UPdate! Cha Nov 2014 #82
Yeah!!! bravenak Nov 2014 #85
"I would enjoy having some Kentucky bourbon with Mitch McConnell." pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #20
I wouldn't be against making bourbon one of the food groups. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #24
He is going to try to get themto put forth an agenda and they are waiting for him. rwheeler31 Nov 2014 #23
No. he will use EO before that. he is saying the staring game is over. nt Raine1967 Nov 2014 #29
Does PBO have a "Kansas accent" ? steve2470 Nov 2014 #25
I have not been able to place his accent, but that may be because I don't know Illinois. Hekate Nov 2014 #49
good answer steve2470 Nov 2014 #57
fuck Ed Henry, such a biased question nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #28
Obama: *hmmm* Raine1967 Nov 2014 #30
he has such control over his frustration, I'd be sorely tempted to say that was a bs question nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #32
I am sure that was going the his head. gah! Raine1967 Nov 2014 #34
I understand the press corps can't give him softball questions steve2470 Nov 2014 #35
See my response just above. (agreed) Raine1967 Nov 2014 #39
HE has had enough of Ed Henry's Bullshit. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #38
On healthcare: there are lines I am going to draw a line: Raine1967 Nov 2014 #40
He looks and sounds great BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #41
It's been very enlightening. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #44
He's clearly underwhelmed by the quality of the GOP's win last night BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #46
I think we are in agreement. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #52
lol Cha Nov 2014 #76
No doubt, BG.. Cha Nov 2014 #75
I don't give a damn what he has to say tularetom Nov 2014 #43
Ok, good. Have a nice day. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #48
Best answer to that nonsense alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #54
Thank you. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #59
I've spent six years listening to the actual things he's said tularetom Nov 2014 #60
I believe anything I could possibly say to you might be met with my Raine1967 Nov 2014 #62
Mahalo Raine.. you handled the ignorance beautifully. Cha Nov 2014 #70
((HUG)) Raine1967 Nov 2014 #73
Then don't listen. blue neen Nov 2014 #55
Hard to sell a party on anything when Egnever Nov 2014 #58
+1 eom. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #66
Don't hold yourself back; tell us how you really feel Hekate Nov 2014 #81
He's delusional LittleBlue Nov 2014 #61
The Pukes have already said Keystone is up first. Puglover Nov 2014 #74
He is so great. He is explaining the economy really well right now. applegrove Nov 2014 #64
I truly agree. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #65
It's mind boggling, apple.. They shouldn't let brainwashing get in the way of a good offense! Cha Nov 2014 #79
As usual some of the questions have been ridiculous. Why can't you be more like Clinton? jillan Nov 2014 #67
When he was done with his initial statement I Said to myself: Raine1967 Nov 2014 #68
Unfortunately I missed the first couple of questions. The last one was good tho. jillan Nov 2014 #69
Political etiquette requires him to be open to compromise... kentuck Nov 2014 #86
That is what I took from this presser. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #87

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
8. Yeah, he needs to get over that "My Daddy really does love me" fantasy.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:18 PM
Nov 2014

Kissing the Paternalistic Party's ass is not going to make up for the years without his own father.


Why in hell does this country continue to elect men with Daddy Issues to our highest office? SMDH.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
42. You really are not listening to him, it appears.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:48 PM
Nov 2014

and when I saying listen, it is different than hearing.

He has not said anything close to what you are suggesting.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
51. "Daddy issues" --really?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:55 PM
Nov 2014

Pretty insulting and off the mark IMO.

Barack Obama, despite his political faults--is one of the most mature and intelligent presidents ever elected. He is not acting out of your pop psychology framing.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
71. Because Americans impose a double standard on the two parties--
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:21 PM
Nov 2014

They expect Democrats to govern. They don't expect the same of Republicans.

And as long as Americans continue to do that, we lose.

The president has to govern, period.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
63. Sorry he's not entertaining enough for you
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

But governing—and especially trying to govern in a very divided country, with a divided Congress, in challenging times—is serious business.

Thoughtful and informed responses may be boring to you and others, but it sure beats the "heh hehs" and nicknaming of the former (p)resident. And it sure beats the chest-beating that candidates like to do to grab your attention. We all know that Obama is fully capable of doing inspirational. He's the president though now, not on the campaign trail, and serious is necessary. These are serious times. In the proper environment, he's also great at entertaining. Press conferences aren't stand-up routines.

America needs to grow up and pay attention. Government is not entertainment.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
88. It has nothing to do with entertainment...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

it'as inspiration I'm talking about.

For 6 years now he's been a good speaker, but never roused the people. Lincoln, TR, FDR, JFK and Reagan gave inspirational speeches in times more troubled than these and with a population just as divided as now. Or more so.

The news and various government offices report the facts. Par of the President's job is presenting the essence of those facts to inspire us toward something.

You want to call it a sales job? OK, it's a sales job, but without sales, nothing would be sold.





 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
72. Why would he be? His party just got trounced by throwing him under the bus
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:23 PM
Nov 2014

despite all his achievements and a steadily improving economy.

If it were me, I'd say 'fuck you' to the American people, but he's far more upstanding than I am, admittedly.

Deuce

(959 posts)
83. I just expressed those same sentiments to a group of individuals an hour ago...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:00 PM
Nov 2014

The American people have failed to provide the President the congressional support he needed.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
11. I will be interested in that take. I am and
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:22 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:16 PM - Edit history (1)

if people are really listening, they would hear that he is going to exec order immigration reform among others. he is challenging them to pass laws, in the meantime, he will use the veto pen and use exec action.
(Edit for spelling)

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. I'm listening to it as well.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:25 PM
Nov 2014

It's a good speech. President Obama always speaks well. And he'll no doubt do as he says he will do. He usually does. Whether he gets any respect for it is another matter

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
26. Yes.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:33 PM
Nov 2014

he did not use the word Veto, but it was clear early on when he said there are some things that will come along that he will not accept.

That was just another way to say, he will Veto.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
15. Yup. Full of inside-the beltway yuck-yucks...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:27 PM
Nov 2014


And that fucking little shit from ABC asking the Prez "Do you regret not working more with the repukes over the last 6 years?"...

Switching it back to the UEFA League football...

Response to Raine1967 (Original post)

Cha

(297,196 posts)
19. A couple of tweets, Raine..
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:29 PM
Nov 2014
Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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President Obama: "I'm pretty sure I'll take some actions that some will not like."

Message: Executive Orders and Veto Pen, here we go!
10:02 AM - 5 Nov 2014 44 Retweets 22 favorites



Charles M. Blow ?@CharlesMBlow · 41s42 seconds ago
Obama is only talking about areas of “overlap,” not acquiescence. This is not a man who sounds repudiated in the least…

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/05/president-obama-holds-a-press-conference-2/#comments

Cha

(297,196 posts)
84. Update!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:01 PM
Nov 2014

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary
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Now Jim Acosta is losing his mind over the President being so upbeat.

The President is totally trolling them.

Epic


10:59 AM - 5 Nov 2014 109 Retweets 73 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/05/chat-away-460/

Cha

(297,196 posts)
50. Yeah, I do too!.. that's what I've been saying all morning.. that Obama on the front lines between
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:54 PM
Nov 2014

us and fascism!

Thanks for that, napkinz.. I stayed up but I won't be lasting much longer.. snoozzzze.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
80. Coincidently what I've been saying all day, bravenak~ The Graphic is very very
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:46 PM
Nov 2014

current! Hot off the presses.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
82. UPdate!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:00 PM
Nov 2014
:large
TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary
Follow
Now Jim Acosta is losing his mind over the President being so upbeat.

The President is totally trolling them.

Epic


10:59 AM - 5 Nov 2014 109 Retweets 73 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/05/chat-away-460/
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
85. Yeah!!!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:07 PM
Nov 2014

Keep them guessing!
Funny how when Obama is on the ballot, and actually campaigning, we have better nights, tgan when we (not us, but some folks...) hate on him all day every day, we end up getting our asses kicked. Seems to me, people like him better just fine when he's running. And that when he's running we get record turnout. Just something I noticed. Seems easier to win with him than without him in some ways.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. "I would enjoy having some Kentucky bourbon with Mitch McConnell."
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:29 PM
Nov 2014

Especially now, when Mitch will be one of the few relatively sane ones. They may have some things to commiserate about over their bourbon.

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
24. I wouldn't be against making bourbon one of the food groups.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

We could use that economic stimulus in KY.

rwheeler31

(6,242 posts)
23. He is going to try to get themto put forth an agenda and they are waiting for him.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

looks like no change.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
25. Does PBO have a "Kansas accent" ?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

His grandparents were from KS, right ? He always says "tuh" for the word "to". Just an observation, not a criticism.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
49. I have not been able to place his accent, but that may be because I don't know Illinois.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:54 PM
Nov 2014

He was raised in Hawai'i, which has its own distinct regional accent, but so was I, and my mother (from Colorado originally) made absolutely sure we spoke standard English.

Obama went to college in California and elsewhere on the Mainland. He made a choice when he left the Islands. So Hawai'i may live in his heart, but there's no local accent whatsoever. It's just that I can't place what it is -- and that may be the point.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
57. good answer
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:01 PM
Nov 2014

I enjoy listening to him. I'd like to hear more from native Kansans. I'd say overall, it's "middle America", midwest, etc.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
30. Obama: *hmmm*
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:35 PM
Nov 2014

I heard him sigh earlier, and that comment says he is really done with this bullshit.

Of douse, he is always WAY more diplomatic than anyone else.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
35. I understand the press corps can't give him softball questions
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:39 PM
Nov 2014

Ed Henry went over the line to outright advocacy.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
44. It's been very enlightening.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:51 PM
Nov 2014

I am watching this live. I am a Democrat, I here what he is saying.

I like it. He's not playing.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
52. I think we are in agreement.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:55 PM
Nov 2014

He's still a politician (GASP!) and he is making the best of a shitty party party situation.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
75. No doubt, BG..
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:39 PM
Nov 2014
Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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President Obama: "I'm pretty sure I'll take some actions that some will not like."

Message: Executive Orders and Veto Pen, here we go!
10:02 AM - 5 Nov 2014 44 Retweets 22 favorites



Charles M. Blow ?@CharlesMBlow · 41s42 seconds ago
Obama is only talking about areas of “overlap,” not acquiescence. This is not a man who sounds repudiated in the least…

But here's a comment from Chris Hayes "Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes · 2m2 minutes ago
On the whole, this is a pretty uncowed President.


@TheObamaDiary
Follow
This is what's freaking out the WHPC ..... the President keeps on smiling.
10:44 AM - 5 Nov 2014

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/05/president-obama-holds-a-press-conference-2/#comments

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
43. I don't give a damn what he has to say
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:50 PM
Nov 2014

He's had six years to stand up for his policies and programs and act like the leader of his party and he hasn't done it yet.

Why should I listen to more bullshit about working across the aisle and bipartisanship?

Never thought I'd want to see LBJ back in office but that's what we need now. Not Professor Obama, not slimy bill Clinton, but a Dem with good policies and the cojones to push them through.

Hell, Obama can't even sell his own party on his program.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
48. Ok, good. Have a nice day.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:53 PM
Nov 2014

Clearly your desire to be pissed is more important than to be informed by the actual things he is saying.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
60. I've spent six years listening to the actual things he's said
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

And he's said a lot of inspiring words on occasion.

But the follow through has been sadly lacking, so why should things be any different now?

I'm not pissed, just disappointed.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
62. I believe anything I could possibly say to you might be met with my
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:08 PM
Nov 2014

being accused of something disparaging.

whatever.


This still factually happened: http://jeff61b.hubpages.com/hub/14-Facts-About-The-Obama-Presidency-That-Most-People-Dont-Knowhttp://jeff61b.hubpages.com/hub/14-Facts-About-The-Obama-Presidency-That-Most-People-Dont-Know

Sorry that politicking isn't perfect. This happened under this president. Go ahead and don't listen. I do not care about what you think. I care about where we go from here while this man is still President. I care about that.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
55. Then don't listen.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:00 PM
Nov 2014

It's as simple as that. Right now, I don't want to hear about bipartisanship either.

LBJ? In spite of the great things he was able to accomplish, he decided not to run for re-election in 1968. He didn't have his party's support. You know, a little disaster of his called Vietnam.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
58. Hard to sell a party on anything when
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:02 PM
Nov 2014

They stick their fingers in their ears and say I am not listening till i get my pony.

The man hasn't stopped trying to sell the public and his party on his agenda since he got into office. You are living proof of the ability to completely ignore everything he has been saying for years now while trying to pretend he has'nt been saying it.

Once again he is up on the podium laying out his agenda and once again here you are refusing to listen while complaining he doesnt ever lay out his agenda. It would be completely hilarious if it wasn't so mind numbingly stupid.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
61. He's delusional
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:04 PM
Nov 2014

Working with Republicans is akin to national suicide. I hope he's not preparing us for Keystone and chained CPI

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
64. He is so great. He is explaining the economy really well right now.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

If only the candidates had not run from him.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
79. It's mind boggling, apple.. They shouldn't let brainwashing get in the way of a good offense!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:43 PM
Nov 2014
Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
Follow
President Obama: "I'm pretty sure I'll take some actions that some will not like."

Message: Executive Orders and Veto Pen, here we go!
10:02 AM - 5 Nov 2014 44 Retweets 22 favorites



Charles M. Blow ?@CharlesMBlow · 41s42 seconds ago
Obama is only talking about areas of “overlap,” not acquiescence. This is not a man who sounds repudiated in the least…

But here's a comment from Chris Hayes "Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes · 2m2 minutes ago
On the whole, this is a pretty uncowed President.


@TheObamaDiary
Follow
This is what's freaking out the WHPC ..... the President keeps on smiling.
10:44 AM - 5 Nov 2014

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/05/president-obama-holds-a-press-conference-2/#comments

jillan

(39,451 posts)
67. As usual some of the questions have been ridiculous. Why can't you be more like Clinton?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:15 PM
Nov 2014

Why didn't the Democrats want to be seen with you?
Your a lame duck.


Oh give me a break. He handled it well. I just wish he would've loosened up a little.

Obama is still our President and he still won with an overwhelming majority inspite of your Koch purchased Senate and Congressional seats.
Get over yourselves!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
68. When he was done with his initial statement I Said to myself:
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:17 PM
Nov 2014

here comes the idiocracy portion of the show.

Aside from the first and second questions, I was not disappointed.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
86. Political etiquette requires him to be open to compromise...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:09 PM
Nov 2014

Reality might say something else. Politics is not always what it seems on the surface.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
87. That is what I took from this presser.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:30 PM
Nov 2014

I have listened to him very very carefully for the past 6 yeas of his presidency, and add 2 more years to that, 8 years in total.

(maybe more… )

I liked what he said and I saw that he was not a real happy camper. I don't think he is going to take this garbage much longer.

Just in the past hour or so Mitch McConnell took umbrage to what he said. I can't find a link now, I heard it on a CBS news Radio report in the truck. I was shocked and not shocked at the same time.

(Translation: Mitch's Idea of working together means doing everything the GOP wants)

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