Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:47 PM

Odin2005 (53,521 posts)

If you want to lose the Millennial vote completely, nominate Hillary Clinton.

I'm 28 and all most all of my peers DESPISE Hillary. Many of them say that of Hillary is the nominee they will either vote Republican, Green, Independent, or just not vote. The only people I see crowing for Hillary are middle-aged women, Boomers and older Gen-Xers, who want her president because of the symbolism of the first woman president more than anything substantial.

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If you want to lose the Millennial vote completely, nominate Hillary Clinton. (Original post)	Odin2005	Nov 2014	OP
what do your peers say about E. Warren or B. Sanders?	alp227	Nov 2014	#1
I agree with you. Warren speaks to left and right, young and old, the middle and working classes.	NYC_SKP	Nov 2014	#2
Good thing Warren can wrap her head around Clinton...	brooklynite	Nov 2014	#19
And Howard Dean, who is advising her.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#34
+100 for Howard Dean advising Hillary Clinton	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#105
That's odd	hootinholler	Nov 2014	#256
I happened to see Howard Dean on Meet the Press last Sunday. He said he would working with HRC.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#351
+1 for Democrats who like to WIN	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#103
Been winning their asses off lately, eh?	LondonReign2	Nov 2014	#397
Yep. It's all about getting the "W".	Kermitt Gribble	Nov 2014	#527
I love it when Republicans are envious that Dems have a winner with Hillary	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#533
And I love it	Kermitt Gribble	Nov 2014	#540
Policy like the ACA, Dreamers, LGBT, Net Neutrality?	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#567
Nice try. Pretend that you don't know politics. You have no idea how Sen Warren feels about	rhett o rick	Nov 2014	#315
"Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president"	brooklynite	Nov 2014	#348
That was 297-Dimensional Chess	FrodosPet	Nov 2014	#388
Elizabeth hits all the right notes; Hillary is completely out of tune.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2014	#58
Nice musical metaphor	mike dub	Nov 2014	#200
This is a great analogy!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#204
They LOVE Liz and Bernie.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#4
Warren is really concerned about student loan debt	Wella	Nov 2014	#173
The Bankster-owned establishment won't touch loan reform with a 10-foot pole.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#180
So was the President and he actually did something...congress not so much	Historic NY	Nov 2014	#270
Stay on script, man.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#389
lol	DeadEyeDyck	Nov 2014	#576
Great...	40degreesflaps	Nov 2014	#288
Ah yes, the Very Serious People have spoken, no real progressive can EVER win!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#293
Yeah...	40degreesflaps	Nov 2014	#295
The Nation IS Progressive	Hari Seldon	Nov 2014	#330
++++	marions ghost	Nov 2014	#354
The US oligarchs/plutocrats have never been US liberals. The people, however, always have been.	merrily	Nov 2014	#360
+1 an entire shit load.	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#537
Not a progressive nation you say?	Kingofalldems	Nov 2014	#394
Blah, blah, blah. Defeatist nonsense.	Maedhros	Nov 2014	#430
Bet you liked recess and nap time too, probably needed the rest from all that politic learnin'. n/t	A Simple Game	Nov 2014	#513
You only need the money when you need people to believe your bullshit	jeff47	Nov 2014	#402
If That's True...	40degreesflaps	Nov 2014	#577
Who's your governor?	jeff47	Nov 2014	#578
"They could never get the financial backing."	Scootaloo	Nov 2014	#478
I'm not millennial. I'm old and I don't want hillary. No energy, no new ideas and	roguevalley	Nov 2014	#138
Boy, you got that right. I'm waiting for them to put a moat around the	ballyhoo	Nov 2014	#287
You're Not Alone...	40degreesflaps	Nov 2014	#292
+1000!	Javaman	Nov 2014	#369
With you on that! If enough people would get behind Bernie to allow his message to get out,	Dustlawyer	Nov 2014	#376
I thought Earl Warren died years ago?	George II	Nov 2014	#290
Wrong Warren. They are talking about Warren Sapp.	FSogol	Nov 2014	#456
I would vote for Warren Sapp before I'd vote for HRC.	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#538
Warren supports Hillary for Pres.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#355
This is what Primaries are for	liberal N proud	Nov 2014	#3
Who said anything about NOT voting in the primaries?	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#6
OP sounded third person	liberal N proud	Nov 2014	#10
Where is it that independents can't vote in primaries?	we can do it	Nov 2014	#12
The primaries focus on who's running in each major party.	CaliforniaPeggy	Nov 2014	#26
You choose a party for the primaries in Ohio, I can't imagine that doesn'r happen anywhere else.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#42
Sure.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2014	#133
Well, you have a problem, don't you?	Skidmore	Nov 2014	#345
That's one thing to do, yup.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2014	#347
Some states force you to register with the party whose primary you're voting in.	Drunken Irishman	Nov 2014	#186
You can always change it, it's not permenant.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#475
Depends on the state, and on open or closed primary status	hatrack	Nov 2014	#349
In VA, anyone can vote in any primary; you don't have to vote only in the primary	Nay	Nov 2014	#222
"You have to be registered in a party to vote."	Le Taz Hot	Nov 2014	#352
OK, I stand corrected, and I thank you for that.	CaliforniaPeggy	Nov 2014	#379
. . .	Le Taz Hot	Nov 2014	#381
In VA anybody can vote in any	ohheckyeah	Nov 2014	#452
19 states have open primaries where independents, or anyone else, can vote.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#43
Don't most people pick a party for the sake of voting in primaries?	we can do it	Nov 2014	#47
They should. We have Republicans here who are registered as Democrats. I try to explain to people	Chathamization	Nov 2014	#79
Yes but not independents.	Alittleliberal	Nov 2014	#81
Yes I thought that was the whole point	lunasun	Nov 2014	#148
Twentynine states have closed presidential primaries, twenty have open primaries.	NYC_SKP	Nov 2014	#142
20 states +D.C. have a CLOSED PRIMARY SYSTEM.	Divernan	Nov 2014	#341
Illinois is not a closed primary.	ieoeja	Nov 2014	#410
Then they change their affiliation.	kiva	Nov 2014	#37
+1	we can do it	Nov 2014	#44
Good news for you and your Millennial friends!!	Capt. Obvious	Nov 2014	#497
They didn't come out to vote when Hillary wasn't on the ticket this month...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#5
Give my generation something to vote FOR.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#11
A sad fact of life is that voters, more often than not, hold their noses...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#28
Third-Way BS risks driving low-info Millennials into the hands of libertarians.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#49
Libertarian corporate whore wackos or not voting- that'll help.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#59
Insulting us won't get us to the polls, either	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#60
Complaining a democrat is corporatist and then going libertarian-corporate-whore makes no sense.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#70
Call the WAAAAAHmbluance, the DLC fuckers are NOT entitled to out votes.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#80
Honey, I'm not the one whining. I get out and know doors every election.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#91
"honey" is condescending	marions ghost	Nov 2014	#356
So is the assumption that women and older people are all exactly alike.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#400
So address it	marions ghost	Nov 2014	#459
Not as much as " Call the WAAAAAHmbluance"	deurbano	Nov 2014	#427
It makes sense	marions ghost	Nov 2014	#457
The person who started the whiny post is acusing others of whining and offers nothing to help.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#490
I tend to agree with the OP that	marions ghost	Nov 2014	#539
When presented with a republican and somone pretending to be a democrat who's actually a republican	Veilex	Nov 2014	#112
God Bless Harry Truman!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#219
+1	Veilex	Nov 2014	#221
Libertarians are GOPers	Iliyah	Nov 2014	#199
I'm coming up on 34, so not middle-aged. I'm so excited by Hillary.	Heather Kube	Nov 2014	#215
I don't agree...	LP2K12	Nov 2014	#431
It makes exactly the same kind of sense as farmers going Republican	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2014	#296
IMO it isn't the Democrats that will whither away.	jeff47	Nov 2014	#403
I'm not sure yet whether I think the Dem. or Rep. Party will wither first.	F4lconF16	Nov 2014	#522
If Millennials choose to go to the Libertarians, they know what they are doing...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#64
Except the problem here is that	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2014	#156
The Millennials won't get what they want unless they actually work for it...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#170
We ARE working for it, just not through the party mandarins	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#223
That looks great! I'm betting the active members of your organization...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#234
Seen it - Hillary has ZERO chance of capturing that vote to any significant degree. My kids and all their friends think she's an absolute joke.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2014	#71
Yep, my generation sees in HRC everything we don't like about Boomers.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#77
Just asked my son; said same thing; commented how Hillary gamed the system, sat on Walmart board, etc, then pretends she didn't grow up privileged & now lookin out 4 the little guy...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2014	#93
Two words: "Goldwater Girl".	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#102
Elizabeth Warren was once a republican, she is now a Democrat...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#114
Her change was genuine.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#126
Ahhh, so it really isn't the "Goldwater Girl" thing at all...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#145
I don't care about that at all. I care about what she stands for now	eridani	Nov 2014	#461
I don't know about this - And I'm not ready to coronate Hilllary	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#363
She'll have to answer to LGBT people as well, particularly those of us old enough to remember Reagan	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2014	#383
You are correct	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#384
Hold her to her word, Warren would expect that.	LawDeeDah	Nov 2014	#391
I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton, never have been...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#398
She did a terrible job as Secretary of State.	ieoeja	Nov 2014	#414
wow. Very damning...	LawDeeDah	Nov 2014	#417
I think she did a good job...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#418
What gives you the right to infer something	Legalequilibrium78	Nov 2014	#174
Think you summed it up nicely.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2014	#232
Warren was a long term Republican, a Ronald Reagan loyalist, she voted for anti gay, anti choice	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2014	#382
And Clinton didn't even vote for Goldwater...	deurbano	Nov 2014	#469
There are many real reasons to criticize Hillary Clinton; you don't need to make things up.	deurbano	Nov 2014	#434
Yes, there is but being a former republican isn't if, by the same token.	Spazito	Nov 2014	#463
Warren is not being called inevitable.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#464
I have said in another post, I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, never have been...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#466
I think it's time to stop seeing things in that way.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#467
That works ONLY if republicans quit too, they won't...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#470
I agree with you... and besides, Clinton's first presidential vote was for a Democrat.	deurbano	Nov 2014	#471
Oops, will recheck who it was I meant to reply to...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#472
No problem.	deurbano	Nov 2014	#473
+1	lunasun	Nov 2014	#151
Didn't take much did it?	we can do it	Nov 2014	#46
Even fewer people showed up to vote for single-payer advocates in the primaries. So no, it doesn't	Chathamization	Nov 2014	#82
go to vote anyway. there is no excuse ever. write in someone else if you can't	roguevalley	Nov 2014	#144
You are speaking to the choir, here.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#167
its a vicious thing not voting because it makes it inevitable. I expect revolution and will	roguevalley	Nov 2014	#184
You're making Millennials out to be a bunch of wimps.	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2014	#251
OWS was full of wimps?	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#254
Well, I was part of Occupy here in NC, and don't consider myself a wimp.	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2014	#271
Why are you so entitled?	treestar	Nov 2014	#340
Hey, 'something to vote for'? Ironic. I would have loved it if the worst thing on my early ballots	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2014	#380
Every election is about choices and compromise	gmb92	Nov 2014	#485
I agree with you	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#486
Who needs 'em ...	GeorgeGist	Nov 2014	#13
They are non-voters so their vote isn't lost, it wasn't given...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#41
"They are non-voters so their vote isn't lost" - not quite accurate	Veilex	Nov 2014	#118
The repubs were speaking more to their issues than the Dems in November?	Spazito	Nov 2014	#134
Honestly? "trying to pass student loan reforms" was too little too late.	Veilex	Nov 2014	#152
Ahhh, then they also missed the jobs program the Dems tried to get passed...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#162
If I looked at it purely as you put it, no, not smart at all... however...	Veilex	Nov 2014	#217
One can have a valid gripe but it goes nowhere if all you do is gripe...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#253
"it goes nowhere if all you do is gripe" - But clearly they did more than just gripe.	Veilex	Nov 2014	#332
That's bloody stupid	mythology	Nov 2014	#191
I respect your opinion, however, I disagree.	Veilex	Nov 2014	#203
And Democrats lost big, too.	Marr	Nov 2014	#190
Young voters get it, it's the young non-voters who need to grow up...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#208
You need NEW VOTERS.	Marr	Nov 2014	#213
Moderates tend to vote, the young non-voters don't...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#262
So we need to cater to "moderates", but every other group should vote Democratic just	Marr	Nov 2014	#266
No, you used the moderates as an example so I continued by using your example...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#282
We got them out in 2008, and then DNC fucked them over, used them, treated	whereisjustice	Nov 2014	#209
That's what I see, too, a lot of disillusioned young people	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2014	#284
Meanwhile, DNC hacks and the party apparatus think they are winning at 3rd chess. eom	whereisjustice	Nov 2014	#313
Well, if they think they were "fucked over" by the DNC, they haven't seen anything yet...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#299
the strategy of "oh yeah, a Democratic fucking over is better than a Republican fucking over"	whereisjustice	Nov 2014	#311
And that's why those who choose to vote will continue to whine while ...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#413
The Democrats have been trying "We're less bad" for some time now	LondonReign2	Nov 2014	#407
Yeah, it's time to stop mollycuddling the whiny, non-voting Millennials...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#412
How, exactly, have the Democrats been mollycuddling them?	LondonReign2	Nov 2014	#415
Again, if you don't like what's happening, get off Facebook and Twitter, work for change...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#416
If they see posts like this and the anti millenial attitude takes over the party.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#422
If a post on a relative small forum will make them go out and vote against their own...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#424
"And the anti Millennial attitude takes over the Party"	bravenak	Nov 2014	#426
You think I have influence over the party?	Spazito	Nov 2014	#432
Not you. If the attitude takes over the party.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#442
I voted when I was 20 something, 30 something, etc, etc, etc,	Spazito	Nov 2014	#443
What generation are you?	bravenak	Nov 2014	#444
I was born in 1953, I'm one of those baby boomers...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#446
How did you vote?	bravenak	Nov 2014	#447
I always vote left...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#451
I think that when our generation is fully adult..	bravenak	Nov 2014	#454
Okay, bravenak, lets you and I, a baby boomer and a Millennial put aside our differences and...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#462
Millenials are not all grown up yet.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#474
Sadly, there isn't a lot of time to give for them to grow up...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#482
And we will just have to wait our turn and get rid of conservatism.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#488
Choosing not to vote puts your needs at the end of the line, not the front or even...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#495
So you had a reason to vote when you were 20-30.	Kermitt Gribble	Nov 2014	#535
No, I held my nose more times than not...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#541
"often there was little that was going to directly benefit me but the other party...	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2014	#546
I don't know, I've tried every which way to get that point across...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#552
Thank you for this bravenak	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#503
Me too.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#504
I cast my vote for Carter...	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#509
My mom voted for Carter too.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#510
Good for her	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#514
Late 70's he and his first wife bought a place in racist Canyon Country.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#516
My ownership theory holds up a large percentage of the time.	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#520
I see that in my generation too.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#521
I see this has become a rather long thread. Haha	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#524
It is pretty long.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#526
I read it. I liked it.	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#528
I will tell you as soon as I finish.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#529
Thank you (nt)	malokvale77	Nov 2014	#532
My what tender young souls. What would they have done facing the 60s discrimination?	we can do it	Nov 2014	#479
I still face discrimination today. It ain't over by a long shot.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#484
Yes. Both now and then.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#494
I always vote.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#564
I like Elizabeth's positive message; strikes a chord with me.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2014	#571
+1 million	LondonReign2	Nov 2014	#401
I actually started believing in 2008.	bvar22	Nov 2014	#499
+1	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#549
That's true! nt	DawgHouse	Nov 2014	#319
So, you don't want them to vote???	grahamhgreen	Nov 2014	#419
Quite the opposite, I want them to grow up, take their civic responsibility seriously...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#421
All we have to do is give them something ot vote for. Say, raising taxes on wealth!	grahamhgreen	Nov 2014	#425
See, that is exactly the problem, spoon-feeding them is not the answer...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#428
They did.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#429
Those that worked to get ballot measures passed did vote...	Spazito	Nov 2014	#440
This boomer didn't vote for Hillary before and don't want to in the future.	newfie11	Nov 2014	#7
+1 for the statment and +1 for never missing a vote! :)	Veilex	Nov 2014	#124
Your welcome	newfie11	Nov 2014	#177
How about the Millenials show up and nominate someone progressive?	we can do it	Nov 2014	#8
We did in 2008, but our FDR turned out to be an Al Smith.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#18
2008 was a long time ago. How about someone young stepping up?	we can do it	Nov 2014	#39
You can't. There are minimum age requirements for national offices.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2014	#168
I will listen to legit bitching all day long but if you don't vote, no. Shut your face and go	roguevalley	Nov 2014	#176
the "grown up" argument is lame	marions ghost	Nov 2014	#361
so your dad acted badly. are you going to do the same	roguevalley	Nov 2014	#404
Your approach is NO way to change anything	marions ghost	Nov 2014	#455
Good advice. I would add just one meme: SILENCE=CONSENT=DEATH nt	Bohunk68	Nov 2014	#373
+ a zillion	roguevalley	Nov 2014	#405
Yeah it has to be done right away	treestar	Nov 2014	#339
"I tried voting in the primaries once, but ended up voting for the wrong person, so I quit."	Chathamization	Nov 2014	#372
We failed to turn up in the consequent elections	RedCappedBandit	Nov 2014	#396
kudos for the John Mayer lyric reference	KMOD	Nov 2014	#29
(Thanks) That song drives my insane!	we can do it	Nov 2014	#51
So you are now spokesperson for the millinials. Impressive. I thought the millinials were a	still_one	Nov 2014	#9
You care enough to be nasty about it.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#15
Older folks apparently can't keep themselves from yelling at clouds.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#20
Not ALL older folks!!!	bravenak	Nov 2014	#27
Thanks!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#40
They forget WE are having children in this economy.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#61
Admitting that we are adults means admitting that they are now old.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#69
I am surprised that more don't want our input.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#128
Our generation is on a rondezvous with destiny, to paraphrase FDR...	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#146
It's happening on a local level here.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#160
Folks in Seattle got a COMMUNIST elected to their city council.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#172
I truely think we need more of that to free liberals up to be liberals.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#192
You seem to be complaining of boomers stereotyping your generation...	MoonchildCA	Nov 2014	#132
Nice stereotyping. Just what you were railing against.	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2014	#243
Not to quibble, but 71 is not boomer.	Bohunk68	Nov 2014	#374
Demographically, no, but 1943 births were the oldest who could be drafted...	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#572
Never heard of either of them.	Bohunk68	Nov 2014	#575
This message was self-deleted by its author	still_one	Nov 2014	#107
I am not pissed, but there is sure a lot of animosity that is coming from you	still_one	Nov 2014	#85
You said you don't give a shit.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#97
NO that ISN't what I meant. I meant the millennial were a diverse group comprised	still_one	Nov 2014	#164
!!!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#175
I just re-read my post, "I" was a typo. You probably don't believe me, but that is the truth. I am	still_one	Nov 2014	#185
No. I get it.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#189
My problem is I did a stupid typo which completely ruined the point I was trying to make. So I am	still_one	Nov 2014	#195
I rarely stay mad for more than 30 seconds.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#198
Thanks	still_one	Nov 2014	#202
I'm much older than you. I'd like to show you a line from the first general election ballot I voted	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2014	#385
I never DO skip voting.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#393
Not me. I know you guys have it tough	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2014	#305
Actually I am stating exactly what they are, a diverse segment. I had a typo in the original	still_one	Nov 2014	#25
We are pretty diverse and super jaded.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#32
She will make up for loosing some of those voters with huge gains..	DCBob	Nov 2014	#14
Who says minorities like Clinton so much?	bravenak	Nov 2014	#21
By the time we get to the general election in 2016...	DCBob	Nov 2014	#62
Oh, I see. She'll start caring during the general.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#83
not what I said.	DCBob	Nov 2014	#90
Seems like it.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#101
That's puttin it mildly!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2014	#78
Old. White. Establishment. Hawkish; She's awesome! Sign me up! n/t	cherokeeprogressive	Nov 2014	#267
LOL!!! They forgot what she said about Obama.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#269
Did they like Bill?	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#273
Yeah.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#277
Ouch Not good.	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#280
No problem.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#289
Many black voters have not forgiven the Clintons	AtomicKitten	Nov 2014	#22
True but I think she can recover many of those voters..	DCBob	Nov 2014	#68
Well she can give it a shot but voters aren't stupid.	AtomicKitten	Nov 2014	#75
We aren't dumb	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#370
Right, just like Psycho Sarah would cause women to vote for McCain.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#35
Bullshit. She lost the nom in 08 and is even less relevant now	peacebird	Nov 2014	#48
Bull, what huge numbers of "moderate women" are there to draw on that don't vote Democratic now?	TheKentuckian	Nov 2014	#120
I've got to agree with bravenak on this sub thread	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#364
Not crowing for HIllary, signed Middle-aged Woman ~nt	RiverLover	Nov 2014	#16
Same here. I'm 32 and none of the Democratic-voting people I know	LittleBlue	Nov 2014	#17
And all these shrill people screaming insults at us...	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#24
Agreed. When I see progressives putting on their capes for corporatism	LittleBlue	Nov 2014	#38
I have noticed that many Boomer women seem to live vicariously through powerful women.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#57
Through which powerful women are these many Latte Liberal Boomer women vicariously living?	deurbano	Nov 2014	#163
I just don't know how they can blame us for for losing faith in this so called labor party.	Alittleliberal	Nov 2014	#109
I think they're just Hillary fans.	Marr	Nov 2014	#201
Touche! K&R, Marr	Carolina	Nov 2014	#481
Why are you and others so susceptible to what others say to, or about, you?	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2014	#227
Very well said!	RiverLover	Nov 2014	#36
Me too.	peacebird	Nov 2014	#54
Please don't abstain from voting entirely	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2014	#298
of course she can win, Howard Dean is supporting her and according to some Dean knows how to win	JI7	Nov 2014	#23
She won't win if my generation refuses to vote for her.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#30
many candidates have won that your generation refused to vote for	JI7	Nov 2014	#45
I'd kinda like them to vote in the primaries too n/t	arcane1	Nov 2014	#31
The Third Way would prefer to lose the Millennial vote, it appears. (nt)	w4rma	Nov 2014	#33
It's a vicious reaction to Occupy, IMO.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#65
That would appear so. (nt)	w4rma	Nov 2014	#321
It's as simple as this: Millennials aren't voting the way they are told to.	Maedhros	Nov 2014	#433
I'm 71 and agree with you wholeheartedly....about Hillary.	jaysunb	Nov 2014	#50
You 'War babies" said never to trust someone over 30...	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#73
What has changed? n/t	jtuck004	Nov 2014	#98
But I'm turning 30 in a year and a half.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#106
That's ok. If one was there to hear the original, the next line "You can't trust anyone under 30	jtuck004	Nov 2014	#143
LOL, thanks!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#153
Don't get carried away, youngster	jaysunb	Nov 2014	#239
I'm 58 and most of my peers want Elizabeth. It's not just an age thing.	jillan	Nov 2014	#52
Hoping she runs, she really connects with all people.	we can do it	Nov 2014	#55
I adore Liz, she's like everyone's favorite mom!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#84
She's nothing like mine	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#368
My Mom was never, ever a Republican like Warren. My Mom cast votes for equality and never for	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2014	#386
yes, we'll certainly base the nominee on what your drinking buddies think.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#53
More insults is all you DLCers have, apparently.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#86
So calling your friends 'drinking buddies' is insulting?	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#89
I could feel the sneering all the way through the inter-tubes.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#94
saying a presidential election will be won or lost based on what a few of your friends say...	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#99
My acquaintances are a good cross section of my generation.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#111
So? It's anecdotal and a VERY small sample size.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#113
Ignore voters born between 1980 - 1996 at your own peril. We (those old enough) helped get Obama	chrisa	Nov 2014	#117
No one is ignoring them. Hillary is winning them by a mile.	wyldwolf	Nov 2014	#344
Being a professional asshole to people that WANT to vote Democratic	LondonReign2	Nov 2014	#408
I'm older and would love a woman elected president but	LiberalElite	Nov 2014	#56
Me too! Her name is Elizabeth.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2014	#100
"Young wolves, show us your teeth." John Steinbeck K&R	Tierra_y_Libertad	Nov 2014	#63
Winner!	we can do it	Nov 2014	#74
I think Romney showed how electable self-appointed "birthright" candidates are	Sen. Walter Sobchak	Nov 2014	#66
My generation is very sensitive to the entitlement thing.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#88
It's ok you guys don't show up to vote anyways.	dilby	Nov 2014	#67
it makes zero sense	SHRED	Nov 2014	#76
Hopefully we won't have their moms showing up telling us how	dilby	Nov 2014	#96
Keep on insulting us, bro.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#228
I get it, you think you are special and that your vote makes more of a difference	dilby	Nov 2014	#249
Your posts are very annoying and lack substance.	Maedhros	Nov 2014	#435
Too bad the Helicopter Moms don't haul their asses to the polls.	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2014	#268
Yeah but do the Millennials even vote?	SHRED	Nov 2014	#72
Post removed	Post removed	Nov 2014	#87
way to go	DonCoquixote	Nov 2014	#325
Thank you very much!!	bravenak	Nov 2014	#326
The following ballot question was on my second ever ballot as a young person. It explains why I vote	Bluenorthwest	Nov 2014	#387
I remember that.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#392
would you consider making this reply an op?	DonCoquixote	Nov 2014	#493
Sure.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#498
This message was self-deleted by its author	bravenak	Nov 2014	#326
I will vote for whoever is the nominee and I'm younger than you.	minivan2	Nov 2014	#92
+1	Spazito	Nov 2014	#104
Oh, I will vote, too, don't get me wrong.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#115
+one million and a few shiny pennies	chrisa	Nov 2014	#95
There is nothing wrong with demanding that one's vote be EARNED rather than EXPECTED.	Maedhros	Nov 2014	#437
I'm over twice your age and in very poor health so your generation will suffer the consequences	Rowdyboy	Nov 2014	#108
All that and I'm still waiting for the revolution to begin.	Bohunk68	Nov 2014	#378
What have Millenials done for us lately that we'd cater leadership towards them?	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#110
We Millennials are very active in the campaign finance reform WolfPAC movement.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#121
That looks great. My suggestion to you is	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#147
Don't you know they are the generation of special.	dilby	Nov 2014	#123
You need to get out more, because you obviously don't knowe enough Millennials.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#230
We are adults that grew up under Reagan thanks to y'all.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#140
You're carrying on in the same way as the poster did	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#161
The point of activism is to upset the status quo.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#178
A win is a win and it sounds like you do work within the system	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#210
Got rid of the repug governor too.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#265
I totally agree	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#322
Oh please!!! stop making your damn self so damn important	Legalequilibrium78	Nov 2014	#205
I AM fucking important.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#226
Here in lies the problem of the kind of mentality you and	Legalequilibrium78	Nov 2014	#263
We work hard every fucking day.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#274
Speak your mind and have at it	Legalequilibrium78	Nov 2014	#294
Where did I ever claim to represent everybody?	bravenak	Nov 2014	#297
Yeah, boomers changed the world all right...	Niko	Nov 2014	#149
It's not all black and white unless your brain can only handle a couple of ideas	flamingdem	Nov 2014	#165
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,	Maedhros	Nov 2014	#441
We already paid for that retirement income several times over.	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#551
It's not the Millennials job to do anything for candidates!	Maedhros	Nov 2014	#438
Odin2005, you are right on!	Shemp Howard	Nov 2014	#116
The Libertarian idiots are doing a good job catering to Millennial issues.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#136
War, Banks, Marijuana	Shemp Howard	Nov 2014	#244
You got it, Shemp!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#248
I am 36 and all my friends younger and older support Hillary.	hrmjustin	Nov 2014	#119
LOL, statistically I would say that's almost impossible. Exaggerating much? Nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#300
that was kind of the point but yes most support Hillary	hrmjustin	Nov 2014	#302
I agree that here in New York she has a great deal of support	Rhiannon12866	Nov 2014	#323
Hillary is a horrible, horrible choice. There is a class war being waged and she is	whereisjustice	Nov 2014	#122
I guess I'm one of those middle-aged women you speak of who happens to have a son who's a Millennial	politicaljunkie41910	Nov 2014	#125
Excuse me but how do uou know	Le Taz Hot	Nov 2014	#353
So you're suggesting that he's been around here since he was 14 years old? He was the one who said	politicaljunkie41910	Nov 2014	#536
You seem to have some kind of axe to grind	Le Taz Hot	Nov 2014	#548
I don't like the idea of gimme or I don't vote, but I'd be up for another candidate...	C Moon	Nov 2014	#127
What do you think of Corey Booker?	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#129
Centrist empty suit. Same with O'Malley.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#150
Not gonna ask about Biden and Holder . . .	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#158
O'Malley is a centrist empty suit??	BlueEye	Nov 2014	#179
plus, y'know, she supports policies that would cause rioting in the streets if a Pub passed them	MisterP	Nov 2014	#130
Not according to recent polling.	deurbano	Nov 2014	#131
1200 telephone interviews with "likely" millenials	abelenkpe	Nov 2014	#159
I think it means millennials "likely to vote," not likely to be millennials.	deurbano	Nov 2014	#225
Just like the same pulling that showed Hillery 25 points ahead of Obama? LOL! nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#301
Take it up with Fusion.	deurbano	Nov 2014	#316
It's silly to think a poll of 1200 done by a polling firm accurately reflects the views of	Chathamization	Nov 2014	#375
I'm quite a bit older than you and I feel the same!	raindaddy	Nov 2014	#135
Gen X	abelenkpe	Nov 2014	#137
I'm like you	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#367
as a kid, it was the Kennedys who got me interested in politics, otherwise I probably would	LiberalArkie	Nov 2014	#139
She wins 2-1 with young people 18-29	bhikkhu	Nov 2014	#141
That was right after she retired from the State Department, over 2 years ago.	Calista241	Nov 2014	#166
Your polling is dated December 2012.	AtomicKitten	Nov 2014	#171
here's one from July 2014	onenote	Nov 2014	#317
With regret, ...... I concur.	meti57b	Nov 2014	#154
Your peers need to campaign and get out the vote in your state primaries or caucuses.	LiberalFighter	Nov 2014	#155
Yeah okay there, don't try and speak for the entire group	Legalequilibrium78	Nov 2014	#157
I am 21 and most of my peers (who are Dems) like Hillary Clinton a lot.	BlueEye	Nov 2014	#169
re Hillary	NotHardly	Nov 2014	#181
By the way isn't Hillary's daughter a millennial	Wash. state Desk Jet	Nov 2014	#182
Chelsea is near the end of Generation X.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#193
There are varying starts anywhere from 1980-1984. n/t	tammywammy	Nov 2014	#231
I follow the Strauss and Howe definition of 1982.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#238
Yes, I suppose you are correct !	Wash. state Desk Jet	Nov 2014	#275
I am 63 and agree.	JEB	Nov 2014	#183
Energy	jalan48	Nov 2014	#187
Anyone who goes to a party honoring that war criminal Kissinger	The Green Manalishi	Nov 2014	#188
Well, Warren is ready, but if she gets the nom, the Clintons aren't going to be happy.	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#194
33 here, and work with a lot of 20-somethings	MirrorAshes	Nov 2014	#196
I'll not	Stryder	Nov 2014	#197
Most of your peers have no awareness of politics at all.	onehandle	Nov 2014	#206
So you know my peers, huh?	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#207
Those pesky mind readers.	Rex	Nov 2014	#216
LOL!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#235
Great message there, that will pull in the youth vote.	Rex	Nov 2014	#212
I think I saw your car the other day	Union Scribe	Nov 2014	#260
I'm a millenial (born 1980). Most of my friends are as well.	Dr Hobbitstein	Nov 2014	#211
Same here, also born in 1980.	tammywammy	Nov 2014	#229
I work with one.	Dr Hobbitstein	Nov 2014	#237
There are at least 15 right around me at work.	tammywammy	Nov 2014	#241
Well said...nt	SidDithers	Nov 2014	#276
Warren isn't running. Who do you want who can WIN?	RBInMaine	Nov 2014	#214
My daughter loves Hillary and she's your peer. You only speak for yourself	pnwmom	Nov 2014	#218
The problem I have with Hillary is it seems the SOS. This country is in dire need of a new	RKP5637	Nov 2014	#220
The 3rd way and DNC believe they can fuck over liberals and still win elections. From DNC	whereisjustice	Nov 2014	#224
Yup. And she feels she DESERVES to be President.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2014	#233
And yet it's MY generation that gets called "entitled".	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#240
Hillary never said she was entitled to be president.	hrmjustin	Nov 2014	#242
No, she and her sychophants just act like she is.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#246
How does she act like it? be specific.	hrmjustin	Nov 2014	#247
They all assume that she is the "INEVITABLE" candidate...	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#252
that is not anwering my question.	hrmjustin	Nov 2014	#255
Remember 2008?	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#258
I mean now. Yes she acted confident but so did Obama.	hrmjustin	Nov 2014	#259
Which is kinda weird since everyone says things are tougher.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2014	#264
Anyone that with vote a republican over a Democratic nominee of Hillary Clinton	tammywammy	Nov 2014	#236
It's the system.	DeSwiss	Nov 2014	#245
Great analogy!	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#250
Man, this post is all over the planet.	SoapBox	Nov 2014	#257
Depends. If she pulls in red states, that's a plus.	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#261
I don't think any Democrat - not even Bill Clinton - would pull in red states today.	Midwestern Democrat	Nov 2014	#279
It's gonna be a very tough race for whoever gets it, no question there.	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#285
Having Bill's endorsement didn't help the black gubernatorial candidate from... MARYLAND.	WorseBeforeBetter	Nov 2014	#554
The Republicans used racism against Obama in the red states	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2014	#310
Well, she'd probably win Arkansas barring major blunders.	ucrdem	Nov 2014	#314
The pukes and baggers will pour bazillions no matter who is the nominee	LeftInTX	Nov 2014	#324
Interesting point	Not a Fan	Nov 2014	#272
I'm a Boomer, and I do not want Hillary Clinton as nominee	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2014	#278
Agreed	billhicks76	Nov 2014	#281
I'm a Boomer, actually born on the first	ballyhoo	Nov 2014	#283
I a m a baby boomer	MissDeeds	Nov 2014	#286
I'm a boomer - born in 1949 - and I do not want Hillary Clinton to be the nominee, either. nt	scarletwoman	Nov 2014	#291
She pulled herself out of poverty. Doesn't that count for something? Nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#303
Hillary grew up in poverty? No way!	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2014	#307
It was a joke..........	Logical	Nov 2014	#309
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Nov 2014	#304
Damn that's where my teeth went	davidpdx	Nov 2014	#333
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Nov 2014	#334
Well you better go in after them sunny	davidpdx	Nov 2014	#335
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Nov 2014	#343
Older Gen-X female here -	TBF	Nov 2014	#306
I'm voting for Al Franken in the primaries...	Kalidurga	Nov 2014	#308
It comes down to choice.	Wash. state Desk Jet	Nov 2014	#312
Nah, you don't speak for a whole generation.	DawgHouse	Nov 2014	#318
i think jeb bush will be a better president too nt	GusBob	Nov 2014	#320
Strive for perfection.	moondust	Nov 2014	#328
She'll speak to issues millennials care about.	joshcryer	Nov 2014	#329
Same, OP	BlindTiresias	Nov 2014	#331
Millennial vote? Hell, I'm 50, and if she's the nominee we will lose me. nt	silvershadow	Nov 2014	#336
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2014	#337
Me and my friends is not a good poll	treestar	Nov 2014	#338
Young people = "those fuckers"	Union Scribe	Nov 2014	#362
"the symbolism of the first woman president more than anything substantial" - YES	sibelian	Nov 2014	#342
The way the political deck is stacked now, we are supposed to only base	djean111	Nov 2014	#346
And another shot across the bow to Boomers	Le Taz Hot	Nov 2014	#350
Republicans count on people voting againt their own interest.	baldguy	Nov 2014	#357
I'm not seeing lock step and goose step	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#358
Thanks. I am not a millenial and am female.	merrily	Nov 2014	#359
My Millennial (1984) daughter's first vote was for Hillary	HockeyMom	Nov 2014	#365
Do the Millennials take the long view on things?	justiceischeap	Nov 2014	#366
Millennials vote?	cwydro	Nov 2014	#371
I would love to nominate Warren if she would run but	Shankapotomus	Nov 2014	#377
There	LWolf	Nov 2014	#390
I'm 27 and my experience is not the same.	RedCappedBandit	Nov 2014	#395
If you want a different candidate, it's time to pick one who is willing	MineralMan	Nov 2014	#399
I'm 44 and want no part of her candidacy.	vi5	Nov 2014	#406
You and your friends are an echo chamber for each other.	pnwmom	Nov 2014	#409
The thing I find amusing is...	Historic NY	Nov 2014	#411
Not just Millennials. This pre-boomer is appalled by the thought of another Clinton.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Nov 2014	#420
I agree. Many realize her affiliations and see no sense in	glinda	Nov 2014	#423
"Most of your peers" may live in Berkeley and/or Greenwich Village	ConservativeDemocrat	Nov 2014	#436
I live in Fargo, a college town but still solidly purple.	Odin2005	Nov 2014	#573
I am an older Gen-Xer, and	TM99	Nov 2014	#439
truth	Android3.14	Nov 2014	#445
I'm a millenial and I am Ready for Hillary! Seriously. And I think you do a great disservice to	Metric System	Nov 2014	#448
She is popular among Millennials in my area.	Ykcutnek	Nov 2014	#449
Millennials probably won't vote in substantial numbers	Mr.Bill	Nov 2014	#450
Jeb Bush is NOT a moderate.	raging moderate	Nov 2014	#453
Jeb Bush may not be a "moderate",	bvar22	Nov 2014	#501
450+ posts later, one thing is clear: Hillary will not lose the Millennial vote "completely."	onenote	Nov 2014	#458
And McCain didn't 'completely' lose the black vote.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#460
He did lose most of it	onenote	Nov 2014	#465
She will lose some of the young vote and more of the black vote i think.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#480
I never claimed she would win it all	onenote	Nov 2014	#483
That could mean the difference between running and winning and running and losing.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#487
So which candidate would do better than her with those groups?	onenote	Nov 2014	#489
Rand Paul. Not a joke.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#492
Not a chance	onenote	Nov 2014	#505
How do you know Rand Paul won't peel off a good percentage of The black vote or the youth vote?	bravenak	Nov 2014	#506
Again, the issue was whether most African American and young voters would abandon Clinton	onenote	Nov 2014	#508
I think we should start looking, not just settle because people are comfortable.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#518
why have a career politician?	onenote	Nov 2014	#543
I understand your points and I am glad you can see that there are other options.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#550
Interesting points	onenote	Nov 2014	#569
It was nice to get along with somebody for a spell.	bravenak	Nov 2014	#570
Vote for whoever you want to vote for. Or don't vote. It's your choice.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#468
lol. at least you are committed to the stereotype that millenials feel	La Lioness Priyanka	Nov 2014	#476
For real.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#561
I'd work on your peers	gmb92	Nov 2014	#477
Second that.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#563
My peers who "DESPISE" Hillary are...	Mike Nelson	Nov 2014	#491
Clinton's Voting Record	gmb92	Nov 2014	#496
Not a credible threat	Fred Friendlier	Nov 2014	#500
Your peers were lazy this mid term. Is it a trend?	riversedge	Nov 2014	#502
Maybe I should run: my credentials	Elmer S. E. Dump	Nov 2014	#507
Bad news (4u) is, DU does not nominate anyone.	Amonester	Nov 2014	#511
Better to go down a True Democrat than a	Cryptoad	Nov 2014	#512
I will vote for her if I have to, but my heart wouldn't be in it. The independents I know won't	Sky Masterson	Nov 2014	#515
I have three female teens at my house..just passed or about to become voters	Sheepshank	Nov 2014	#517
Hooray! My daughter is 16.	cheapdate	Nov 2014	#565
Totally agree . . . but who's going to stop her? nt	Damansarajaya	Nov 2014	#519
Too late. I already voted absentee.	TheCowsCameHome	Nov 2014	#523
NOBODY wants HRC, except HRC and her Third Way pals in DC.	blkmusclmachine	Nov 2014	#525
If millennials can prove.	Notafraidtoo	Nov 2014	#530
This is one boomer that will not vote for Hillary.	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#531
Am too old to be one of your peers	fadedrose	Nov 2014	#534
Tell your friends to continue expressing their opinions.	Baitball Blogger	Nov 2014	#542
Any adult who would vote "R" because he "despises" HRC is a.......Republican. Don't kid a kidder.	WinkyDink	Nov 2014	#544
Polls say otherwise.	Indyfan53	Nov 2014	#545
What percentage of millenials even bother to vote? They on a whole	B Calm	Nov 2014	#547
DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN	TNNurse	Nov 2014	#553
we need someone who understands how important	samsingh	Nov 2014	#555
A lot of us boomers want a progressive and not Hillary to be the Dem candidate. nt	valerief	Nov 2014	#556
I'm 48 and feel like you do	ebbie15644	Nov 2014	#557
Patience	Arthur_Frain	Nov 2014	#558
I'm in my seventies	blackcrowflies	Nov 2014	#559
boomer's	blackapron	Nov 2014	#560
If millennials want to lose their planet	randr	Nov 2014	#562
Want to lose?	BlindTiresias	Nov 2014	#566
The party needs to start giving young people a reason...	MirrorAshes	Nov 2014	#568
The Dem party big tent is shrinking.	L0oniX	Nov 2014	#574

Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:50 PM

alp227 (31,599 posts)

1. what do your peers say about E. Warren or B. Sanders?

I think E. Warren would UNITE the older people who supposedly have such symbolic attitudes as well as the young people because of Warren's scholarship on bankruptcy and speaking out about debt, a topic very relatable for young folks.

If you want to lose the Millennial vote completely, nominate Hillary Clinton.

1. what do your peers say about E. Warren or B. Sanders?

2. I agree with you. Warren speaks to left and right, young and old, the middle and working classes.

19. Good thing Warren can wrap her head around Clinton...

34. And Howard Dean, who is advising her.

105. +100 for Howard Dean advising Hillary Clinton

256. That's odd

351. I happened to see Howard Dean on Meet the Press last Sunday. He said he would working with HRC.

103. +1 for Democrats who like to WIN

397. Been winning their asses off lately, eh?

527. Yep. It's all about getting the "W".

533. I love it when Republicans are envious that Dems have a winner with Hillary

540. And I love it

567. Policy like the ACA, Dreamers, LGBT, Net Neutrality?

315. Nice try. Pretend that you don't know politics. You have no idea how Sen Warren feels about

348. "Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president"

388. That was 297-Dimensional Chess

58. Elizabeth hits all the right notes; Hillary is completely out of tune.

200. Nice musical metaphor

204. This is a great analogy!

4. They LOVE Liz and Bernie.

173. Warren is really concerned about student loan debt

180. The Bankster-owned establishment won't touch loan reform with a 10-foot pole.

270. So was the President and he actually did something...congress not so much

389. Stay on script, man.

576. lol

288. Great...

293. Ah yes, the Very Serious People have spoken, no real progressive can EVER win!

295. Yeah...

330. The Nation IS Progressive

354. ++++

360. The US oligarchs/plutocrats have never been US liberals. The people, however, always have been.

537. +1 an entire shit load.

394. Not a progressive nation you say?

430. Blah, blah, blah. Defeatist nonsense.

513. Bet you liked recess and nap time too, probably needed the rest from all that politic learnin'. n/t

402. You only need the money when you need people to believe your bullshit

577. If That's True...

578. Who's your governor?

478. "They could never get the financial backing."

138. I'm not millennial. I'm old and I don't want hillary. No energy, no new ideas and

287. Boy, you got that right. I'm waiting for them to put a moat around the

292. You're Not Alone...

369. +1000!

376. With you on that! If enough people would get behind Bernie to allow his message to get out,

290. I thought Earl Warren died years ago?

456. Wrong Warren. They are talking about Warren Sapp.

538. I would vote for Warren Sapp before I'd vote for HRC.

355. Warren supports Hillary for Pres.

3. This is what Primaries are for

6. Who said anything about NOT voting in the primaries?

10. OP sounded third person

12. Where is it that independents can't vote in primaries?

26. The primaries focus on who's running in each major party.

42. You choose a party for the primaries in Ohio, I can't imagine that doesn'r happen anywhere else.

133. Sure.

345. Well, you have a problem, don't you?

347. That's one thing to do, yup.

186. Some states force you to register with the party whose primary you're voting in.

475. You can always change it, it's not permenant.

349. Depends on the state, and on open or closed primary status

222. In VA, anyone can vote in any primary; you don't have to vote only in the primary

352. "You have to be registered in a party to vote."

379. OK, I stand corrected, and I thank you for that.

381. . . .

452. In VA anybody can vote in any

43. 19 states have open primaries where independents, or anyone else, can vote.

47. Don't most people pick a party for the sake of voting in primaries?

79. They should. We have Republicans here who are registered as Democrats. I try to explain to people

81. Yes but not independents.

148. Yes I thought that was the whole point

142. Twentynine states have closed presidential primaries, twenty have open primaries.

341. 20 states +D.C. have a CLOSED PRIMARY SYSTEM.

410. Illinois is *not* a closed primary.

37. Then they change their affiliation.

44. +1

497. Good news for you and your Millennial friends!!

5. They didn't come out to vote when Hillary wasn't on the ticket this month...

11. Give my generation something to vote FOR.

28. A sad fact of life is that voters, more often than not, hold their noses...

410. Illinois is not a closed primary.

414. She did a terrible job as Secretary of State.