Breaking News: BLUE DOG Joe Manchin Has SUDDENLY Found His Spine!

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Making a bold stand, Senator Manchin tells Democrats he will not tolerate any of the behavior he meekly accepted from Republicans.

This hybrid-fence-squatting weasel has suddenly found his balls........FU!!

Breaking News: Blue Dog Joe Manchin has suddenly found his spine! Having found it, he wants all of us Prius-driving, sprout-munching, Birkenstock wearers to know he's not going to put up with any bullsh*t from the likes of us.

TPM:

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) made in clear in an interview published Monday that he has no plans to support Democrats who want to take a page out of the GOP playbook by obstructing the new Republican majority.

"That's bullshi—…. I'm not going to put up with that," Manchin told Politico when discussing the prospect of Democrats blocking the Republican agenda over the next two years.

Manchin didn't appear to be alone either. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) also talked about the need to get something done.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-manchin-block-gop-agenda-bs

It's always so precious when they find their voice just in time to help Republicans. God forbid they would have been standing up when Democrats had the Senate. After Manchin's 'bipartisan' background check bill got hammered I didn't see him calling out anyone, did you? Just the bothsidesbothsides song. Bipartisan is beautiful, especially when half of the 'bi' doesn't do a damned thing. The only group promising obstruction since the election has been Republicans and their tea party keepers. If he wants to use that newly-discovered spine, perhaps he should call them on THAT BS.



http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/senator-joe-manchin-suddenly-finds-his

[mindem]

1. Manchin is a worthless pile of crap.

He will be switching parties next.

[merrily]

26. He didn't care when Republicans obstructed Democrats, but he won't put up

with Democrats obstructing Republicans? Sounds to me like every other Republican.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Liebermanchin. Does anyone like this guy?

[Warpy]

3. I'm sure he'd be delighted to see his colleagues rubber stamp

the horse shit bills the Republicans want.

I would love to see him horribly frustrated.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

4. Romney should sue him for stealing his haircut.

[noiretextatique]

5. FUCK every single one of these QUISLING sell-out assholes

with a rusty pipe, sideways

[merrily]

31. +1 Don't hold back!

[Segami]

34. LOL!

[Cha]

6. Wow! I thought that was going to be good news.. not! WTH manchin?!

"Manchin didn't appear to be alone either. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) also talked about the need to get something done. "..

..they're full of Elephant Shite if they think the repubs want to get Anything done except make life better for Billionaires, Screw the Poor and Middle Class, and Fuck up the Planet even more than they already have.

[NCarolinawoman]

9. So did I.

Keeping getting disappointed.

[blkmusclmachine]

7. Manchin = Liebermann

[jillan]

8. We - those dang Birkenstock wearing, Prius Driving (I wish) Libruls are just going to have to

MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD!

Seriously - we need to be louder than the other side. And the bonus is - We Can Spell!

[NCarolinawoman]

10. Thank you....

and it's good to see you.

[jillan]

11. Good to see you too! :)

After this last election it feels good to have a place like DU to return to.

[lovemydog]

12. 'Get something done' means sell us all out to the highest bidder.

He & McCaskill should be primaried.

[Fuddnik]

13. Hey, he's got a "D" next to his name.

He can do no wrong.

Quit picking on Joe! Leave "Democrats" alone!

[JI7]

14. that's the type of democrat that gets elected in many of the places we lost in the last election

[merrily]

27. That's the type of Democrat who is a Republican.

[n2doc]

32. He would have lost, had he been up for reelection

Count on it. Nunn and Grimes tried to run as republican lite, and got hammered.

Not saying a liberal would have done better. The Koch-aganda is strong.

[JI7]

58. He isn't nunn and grimes.he has already been elected

Statewide many times

[branford]

61. I'm not so sure.

Manchin has been involved in WV politics for some time, has been elected statewide on a number of occasions, and has more than proved his moderate credentials. Few West Virginians doubt his sincerity on key issues that matter to them like coal or firearms. Nevertheless, he would still have a tough election if he was running in 2014.

Nunn and Grimes did not have Manchin's history, and other more moderate Democrats like Pryor, Landrieu, and Begich, no less Udall and Hagan, became too closely associated with Obama and more liberal policies, many of which were not popular in their states.

I don't see how more liberal Democrats would have fared better in the states where we lost, and in any event, the Democrats choose these more conservative candidates in free and fair Democratic primaries.

[DemocraticWing]

15. I worry about bipartisan solutions.

Usually the worst things for America are bipartisan. The one time the parties can agree is to fuck the people over real good, mainly because if they both get in on the act, neither can blame the other for actual problems and can instead just sling mud.

NAFTA, DOMA, Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, etc.

Despite saying all that, I'm also not shocked that Democrats are standing up for cooperation. Americans claim by huge margins that they want nothing more than to see Congress work together.

[merrily]

28. Americans claim a lot of things by huge margins that D.C. ignores. Let Dems ignore that one, too.

For the last four years, Republicans ignored Americans desire to break gridlock. Result? More Republicans in Congress than any time since 1928. They did not exactly get punished.

You're right: anything that gets passed on a bipartisan basis sucks I am not going to advocate for more sucky legislation just for the sake of bipartisanship.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

16. see, he can talk tough to us, cuz we're sprout eating birkenstock wearers.

It's much harder to talk tough to mega-truck drivin', gun-totin', bullet sprayin', raging imbeciles.

[branford]

19. I hope that elitism felt real good.

It's one of the reasons why we lost control of the Senate, even more seats in the House, and Republicans dominate a clear majority of statehouses and governorships. For instance, I'm sure your attitude is appreciated by (previously) loyal, blue collar, union, "mega-truck drivin', gun-totin', bullet sprayin'" Democrats in states like GA, CO, AR, KS and LA.

Take a look at the recent elections in WV, including the Senate win by Republican Capito. WV is very conservative state which relies on coal. Democrats like Elizabeth Warren, or even President Obama, are an endangered species. Simply, Joe Manchin represents the positions of his constituents, similar to those of conservative Democratic Governor Tomblin.

If elected leaders like Manchin and Tomblin advocated all the positions demanded by many here in WV, it would result in the end of their political careers, and mean the election of even more Republicans. Despite your apparent disgust, Manchin is, by a long margin, the lesser of two evils.

Welcome to reality. Senators like Manchin are the only electable Democrats in many states and districts, and just barely. Thankfully, he supports national Democrats on far more issues then he opposes. Other conservative Democrats were decimated in the last election, so we're now more purely liberal, but decidedly in the minority. How exactly does this situation advance any aspect of a more liberal agenda?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

46. I didn't mean it to be elitist. i did take the "...sprout eating..." line from the OP

And when the choice is lesser of two evils, I definitely support the lesser evil.


I was just commenting on where that kind of posturing might come from. Really common attitude among liberal-haters.


Anyway, thanks for the reply. Lot of good info there.

[branford]

60. Sorry, I should not have directed such ire at you personally.

I'm just continually astonished and disappointed about the constant complaining about more moderate and conservative Democrats and the denigration of other Americans, many of whom are (or were) loyal Democrats, particularly from the South and rural Midwest. It often appears that some bigotry is considered acceptable on DU. Our "big tent" seems to be getting smaller and far less inviting.

After reading many of the posts recently throughout the forum, it seems many believe that the problem with Democrats is that, as a party, we're not liberal enough and need to essentially enforce what amounts to purity tests. If we just had more Elizabeth Warrens or Bernie Sanders (who's not even a Democrat!!!), our Party would dominate politics and usher in a liberal utopia. What's utter nonsense.

I'm not sure if some members are just in a state of denial due to the election, but much of America is actually quite conservative, and the majority of Americans are not easily categorized, and are best described as "moderate" simply because they hold a range of opinions, both liberal and conservative. Frankly, someone like Joe Manchin is probably far more representative of most Americans than either politicians like Ted Cruz or Elizabeth Warren. In the event of a real conservative purge, and we became a party of Elizabeth Warrens, all that would result is that we would become a regional party in the permanent minority.

[merrily]

29. Besides, he didn't really want to talk tough to Republicans.

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30. Oh, political etiquettes now?? How accommodating & convenient for him.

[merrily]

33. Obviously not etiquette. But, why talk tough to those you really agree with?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

47. yep. they could hurt him if they don't like what he says.

So could their constituents.

[Iliyah]

17. GOPer base don't like you unless you submit

GOPers are doing this

1. EFF the few Americans who get subsidies for health care cause they don't deserve it BUT major corporations who basically hide their millions/billions deserves subsidies (millions) - Walmart, et al.,
2. Further tax cuts for the greedy, i.e. Kansas, WI, FL, Maine, to name a few
3. No minimum wage cause it hurts corporations who are people, workers are not
4. Depression cause its not gonna hurt the rich

et al.,

[C Moon]

18. He's a fake. Fuk'em.

[stillwaiting]

20. Entirely predictable. The next two years are going to see some horrible legislation passed.

And Obama will sign a lot of it.

[Vinca]

21. Let's all hold hands and sing kumbayah.

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. With the Republicans in firm control of the Senate, fuck Manchin

He's mad it's not 50-50 so he can threaten to jump and get everything he wants.

Let him jump. 52 or 53 or 54 GOPers doesn't really matter.

[B Calm]

23. It appears some of our politicians didn't learn a damn thing from the midterm

election. You run as a republican under the disquise of being a democrat, you are going to lose!

[lonestarnot]

24. Oh fuck him, what's he gona do, throw a rock?

Sissy.

[alarimer]

25. They are never very specific as to what that "something" is.

It can't be anything good.

I don't see why something is better than nothing, in this case.

[CanonRay]

35. Why doesn't he just switch parties and be done with it.

With "friends like him" etc, etc.

[JustAnotherGen]

36. He needs to go whine to the Republican Party

Who won't be getting anything done except fighting amongst themselves for the next two years.

[LondonReign2]

37. And we had a "sincere" thread here just the other day

brought to us by our conservadems, asking if Manchin should be the Democratic nominee for 2016.

[Bobbie Jo]

40. Link?

And just who are "our conservadems?"

[LondonReign2]

42. Here you go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025776128

And if you've been here this long and don't know who the conservadems are there is no way I can help you.

[tkmorris]

44. It's just a trick to get you to name names

See, if you do you will get alerted on. Cute, aint it?

[Bobbie Jo]

49. Yes, you've exposed my evil plot

Just weary of the petty, PA factionalizing that goes on here nonstop.

"our conservadems." What a load.....

[Bobbie Jo]

45. Thanks

Yuck....

But from the looks of that thread, I see ONE guy doing the rah rah for Machin. One.

This is why I ask for clarification, all too often shit gets misrepresented and exaggerated.

Blanket statements like "our conservadems" are meant to be derogatory, so if you insist on using this kind of passive aggressive tactic, be prepared to get called on it at some point.

[LondonReign2]

50. There is nothing passive aggressive about it

It is 100% aggressive.

And I will continue to vehemently, aggressively oppose those on this board that try to make progressive and liberal dirty words while advocating for the party to move to the right to "attract more conservative voters" to replace those on that they've alienated on the left.

[Bobbie Jo]

52. Admirable

Except, no one is doing that here.

Those sort of exaggerations chip away at one's credibility, and btw...you're talking to a proud, dyed in the wool LIBERAL from way back.

No, it's PA to the core.

[LondonReign2]

53. Sadly, not an exaggration

Go ahead, search for the poster that consistently puts quotes around "progressive" and then look at those that agree with his posts.

[noiretextatique]

55. you have not been paying attention

someone is doing that right here in this thread.

[kentuck]

38. Let WV decide what to do with him.

Would be my advice. But we can criticize to our hearts content...

[upaloopa]

39. What is this "something" that needs getting done?

If it is right wing ideology it shouldn't get done.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

41. Does he live in a McManchin?

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43. Spine repair..

[deutsey]

48. Kind of reminds me of the senator in Godfather II

who defends Michael Corleone because Michael has some pretty ugly dirt on him.

[vi5]

51. But any Dem is a good dem, right?

Isn't that what the very wise people on here are always telling us?

BS.

[pampango]

59. Not by the looks of this thread.

[branford]

62. No, a moderate or conservative Democrat, however, is far better than a Republican.

In the real world, the perfect is not the enemy of the good. Manchin still votes with the Democrats the majority of the time and supported Reid as majority leader. A Republican would have been far worse for the state and nation.

Simply, Manchin represents his more conservative constituency in West Viginia. I've seen no evidence to suggest a more liberal or progressive Democrat could prevail in the state at this time, as evidenced by Capito's clear Senate win, and the actual Democrats in West Virginia believed him the best choice in their primary.

[spanone]

54. fuck him...so tired of these kind of 'democrats'...as i said. FUCK HIM.

[noiretextatique]

56. +1000

i agree!

[MFM008]

57. the only way this guy gets a spine

is if he steals one from a medical school.