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Corruption Inc

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Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:46 AM Nov 2014

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You declared the Ds and the Rs are both part of the problem. So who's left? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #1
K&R 99Forever Nov 2014 #2
Justice vs. Just-Us Octafish Nov 2014 #3
Fish I think we're already at Just-Us. Now what we going to do about it? lonestarnot Nov 2014 #12
Get the rats away from the controls. Octafish Nov 2014 #14
Spot On billhicks76 Nov 2014 #4
People should read your post a couple of times. Let it sink in... truth2power Nov 2014 #8
It's Getting Really Sad billhicks76 Nov 2014 #15
Many of the statutes may have run already, not sure. Under a Bernie Sanders admin they would Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #5
5 years from now?...I think we are there now. zeemike Nov 2014 #6
I agree. n/t truth2power Nov 2014 #7
disintermediation. magical thyme Nov 2014 #9
Yep. Poeple talk about change but then turn around and continue supporting those opposed. raouldukelives Nov 2014 #10
With republicans now in charge, it's even less likely anything will be done. B Calm Nov 2014 #11
Democratic campaign funding og1 Nov 2014 #13
kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #16

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
1. You declared the Ds and the Rs are both part of the problem. So who's left?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:02 AM
Nov 2014

Seriously. If 6 years into the Obama administration hasn't taught you nothing is going to happen I don't know what will. Will you still be posting this after the next GOP administration into the next Dem administration? Don't you think this outrage will be eclipsed by other, even greater, outrages?

Nobody in a position of power cares about you or yours or your neighbors.

Once you come to that realization you'll find peace, then you'll find healing, then you'll find self-empowerment. You'll never get it from those bastards. They're only in it for themselves and you are simply a commodity to be managed. It'll hurt at first but once you empower yourself you'll be better off than before.

And thoughts of not being able to affect peaceful reform does not scare them. They have the guns, remember? They stockpile the police and intelligence assets to guard their castles.

You know what really terrifies them?

The thought of you not needing them.

Because then you will stop buying them police and intelligence assets to guard their castles.

"Buy me soldiers. I must be protected because you need me!"

It's why they keep you afraid. Without them you won't eat. Without them you children will go without shoes. Without them you'll die sickly. Without them the Others will pounce upon you.

They imagine themselves benevolent masters -- they may even toss around the word "freedom" from time to time -- but watch how quickly and viciously they will act if you presume to walk away under your own terms.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
2. K&R
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:20 AM
Nov 2014

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Justice vs. Just-Us
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:55 AM
Nov 2014
One important example:

The Obama Dept of Justice 'protected' crooked offshore tax cheats by keeping names secret.

"Well, you can see that the DOj has once again screwed up this international banking scandal. The 'Amnesty Program' was a blatant indication to cover for the politically connected and wealthy individuals. Now, the DPA and John Doe summons was a joke - 4,450 names out of 52,000 (less than 10%) and now it seems that they will not even get those. The fine of $780 mm was also a joke given UBS made $200 million a year for the 8 year period in question (2000-2007). I guess the US taxpayer gets screwed again (by a foreign bank) when it is in fact the banks that got us in this mess and people are losing their homes and paying outrageous credit card debit interest. Maybe we should look at all the political contributions from UBS to US politicians - I know this is huge. Just look at the recent Supreme Court ruling to continue this pattern of conduct." -- UBS whistleblower Bradley Birkenfeld, from somewhere in the Federal Penitentiary System

SOURCE: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-01-27/law_review/30033648_1_bradley-birkenfeld-ubs-banker-international-banking
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
12. Fish I think we're already at Just-Us. Now what we going to do about it?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:42 AM
Nov 2014

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. Get the rats away from the controls.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:00 PM
Nov 2014

That normally takes money, which is what the controls.

Normally... Perhaps some Genuine Grass Roots™?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
4. Spot On
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:09 AM
Nov 2014

There is a reason they are arming themselves. They know people will figure this out but they hope it will be too late. The moderate cowardly centrists in our party are facilitating this. Hopefully they realize soon that Hillary is just a surrogate for the Bush family and their allies agenda. That's why they call her and Bill honorary family members.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
8. People should read your post a couple of times. Let it sink in...
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:15 AM
Nov 2014

Especially, "Hillary is just a surrogate for the Bush family and their allies agenda".

But if she gets elected, it'll be just deny, deny, deny. Some people never learn.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
15. It's Getting Really Sad
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 03:38 PM
Nov 2014

I detest pretty much all Republicans and all their policies. But when I speak the Truth I get labeled as one by people who support a candidate who not only acts like one but was President Of The College Republicans until read the tea leaves and floated on the prevailing winds. Now she is referred to as a "special member of the family" by the Bushes ( no doubt for Bill covering up for Bush Sr crimes to pave way for his admin to return under his son). And Obama was asked to do this for his son and did so his brother can return with the same admin members. I predicted in 2007 Hillary vs Jeb in 2016 and was called an idiot. But as you can see this week in the news it's happen ending again and I blame pushover moderates in our party more concerns with status than justice. People better wake up fast or our country is doomed. It gets worse with each Bush admin. This could be the one that ends everything. And Hillary is their B-Team back up proxy in case something goes awry. And she will execute their plan anyway. I got flagged for pointing out that Obama didn't stand against war, torture(considering bringing it back now), bank prosecutions or egregious agency spying and that's why base not motivated. Some of these so called Democrats need to go away. I'm fine. I care and don't apologize for it. 1984 isn't an instruction (Em)Manual.

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
5. Many of the statutes may have run already, not sure. Under a Bernie Sanders admin they would
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:43 AM
Nov 2014

go to jail, Clinton not so much.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
6. 5 years from now?...I think we are there now.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:50 AM
Nov 2014

But they will never call it that because that brand has been hurt by history and so we will teach people something different in school.

And the right wing has already received the new lesson plan...Fascism is the same as Socialism and Communism...so we are free market Capitalist and therefore not Fascist.

But what is in a name?...it will stink just the same.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
7. I agree. n/t
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:11 AM
Nov 2014
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
9. disintermediation.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:19 AM
Nov 2014

It's the recent theme of the Archdruid Report.

The more you can do for yourself, the less money you need and the less you enable them to control you.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
10. Yep. Poeple talk about change but then turn around and continue supporting those opposed.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:20 AM
Nov 2014

Every dollar in Wall St is a dollar used against us. Each one the harshest vote one can make against labor, against climate recognition, against single payer healthcare, against education against open democracy, against peace itself.
We have a lot of people who, far from doing nothing to right our course, are actually firm financial supporters & staff of the forces aligned against us.
Unless the people who claim to truly care about the problems we are facing actually stop bankrolling the people causing them. We will never fix a damn thing.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
11. With republicans now in charge, it's even less likely anything will be done.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:22 AM
Nov 2014
 

og1

(51 posts)
13. Democratic campaign funding
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:56 AM
Nov 2014

Why aren't bankers prosecuted? We all know the answer! They finance democratic presidential ambitions. The Clinton's and Shumer and the fed are the protectors of their financial ambitions. Again how do we stop this insanity we need to over turn citizen united that is the only thing that will restore Americans faith in democracy or we will surly creep into a fascist state in the very near future! And those that want a Sanders for President how do you propose to finance his campaign to compete with both parties vast corporate resources? Take your three dollar contribution and donate it to over throw citizen united!

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
16. kick
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:37 AM
Nov 2014
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