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Old Nick

(468 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:06 PM Nov 2014

2016 Veep Nominee Disasters (It's Friday Night: Relax Already!)

Last edited Fri Nov 14, 2014, 08:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Let's face it, folks: We've had a shitload of bad choices for the Vice Presidency in recent decades. The obvious template is Quayle, but I would excuse him, as he actually did serve his full term as VPOTUS. But in 2000, we had the Neocon Twins, Cheney and Lieberman, and then, in '04, Cheney again, along with John Rielle Edwards.

And, in 2008, the Queen of Bad Veep Choices, the soon-to-be-ex-Governor-of-Alaska-except-it-wasn't-because-of-getting-elected (thank you, whatever gods hold watch). Then, in '12, we had Paul American Boy Ryan, whom I remain convinced kicks homeless orphans for fun.

But that's all in the past! WE CAN DO MUCH WORSE, AMERICA!

Give me your tired, wretched, lusting assholes, yearning to be first in line as the President breathes his/her last breath. I do not include Bernie Sanders on this list, as he is intellectually incapable of making a bad choice.

But who would be Hillary's worst pick? Warren's? Christie's? Paul's? Walker's? O'Malley's? Cuomo's? Cruz's?

Joe Scarborough's?

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2016 Veep Nominee Disasters (It's Friday Night: Relax Already!) (Original Post) Old Nick Nov 2014 OP
Clinton/Clinton 2016. Hillary should pick Bill. Think of the Freeper meltdown NightWatcher Nov 2014 #1
Cuomo is narcissistic and completely unscrupulous. Smarmie Doofus Nov 2014 #2
For Veep? Old Nick Nov 2014 #8
He's my nominee as Hillary's *worst* pick. Smarmie Doofus Nov 2014 #11
Clinton: Rahm Emanuel Auggie Nov 2014 #3
You win - TBF Nov 2014 #13
The best option I've seen suggested is the Kentucky Governor JonLP24 Nov 2014 #4
Kick Old Nick Nov 2014 #5
I honestly don't think Aerows Nov 2014 #6
True Old Nick Nov 2014 #7
In what respect, Charlie? pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #12
Bill Clinton JonLP24 Nov 2014 #9
To me it's clear he could not be elected VP, but Yupster Nov 2014 #10

NightWatcher

(39,382 posts)
1. Clinton/Clinton 2016. Hillary should pick Bill. Think of the Freeper meltdown
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:13 PM
Nov 2014

Then after their heads fall off, we can sweep the election with little turnout.

And no, I am not a Clinton fan, but I would love the humor value

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. Cuomo is narcissistic and completely unscrupulous.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:14 PM
Nov 2014

If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

Nonetheless: he's my nominee.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
11. He's my nominee as Hillary's *worst* pick.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:25 PM
Nov 2014

And Warren's, Sanders', or anyone else's, for that matter.

TBF

(37,168 posts)
13. You win -
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:29 PM
Nov 2014

that would take care of what's left of the progressive wing of the democratic party.

You couldn't pay me to vote for Rahm Emanuel or his creepy brother.

JonLP24

(29,981 posts)
4. The best option I've seen suggested is the Kentucky Governor
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:21 PM
Nov 2014

He would help in the areas where Democrats need better appeal. Southerners, moderates, and white males. He would also be the best running mate to defend Obamacare based on the success of the Kynect program.

 

Old Nick

(468 posts)
5. Kick
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014

This is supposed to be fun. Honestly, is there anything more laughable than the current state of our politics?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. I honestly don't think
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 08:58 PM
Nov 2014

you can get worse than Palin. Quayle was dimwitted, but Palin? She's in a category all by herself.

JonLP24

(29,981 posts)
9. Bill Clinton
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:25 PM
Nov 2014

If Hillary is the nominee than either of them needs to switch states. Force the Supreme Court to get involved!

Q: Could former President Bill Clinton be vice president?

A: Probably not, but it’s an untested constitutional conundrum.

FULL QUESTION

If Hillary Clinton were to win the Democratic nomination for president, could she have Bill Clinton as her running mate?

FULL ANSWER

The original Constitution had no requirements for the office of vice president. However, the 12th Amendment, ratified in 1804, said that, "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

So that would mean that a vice president would have to meet the requirements to be president laid out in Article II of the Constitution. Principally, the person would have to be born in the United States, be at least 35 years of age and have been a resident of this country for the preceding 14 years. So far, so good. Maybe a former president, like Bill Clinton, could serve as vice president.

However, the 22nd Amendment, ratified in 1951, said:

22nd Amendment: No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once.

So this sets up the conundrum. The 22nd Amendment says that Clinton can clearly not "be elected" to the presidency. And the 12th Amendment says that no one can become vice president if they are "ineligible to the office of the presidency."

Clinton has been elected to the presidency twice. So he can no longer be "elected" to the presidency, according to the language of the 22nd Amendment. Does that mean he is "constitutionally ineligible" to serve as president, to use the language of the 12th Amendment? If so, he could not serve as vice president. But finding out would certainly make for an interesting Supreme Court case.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/vice-president-bill-clinton/

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
10. To me it's clear he could not be elected VP, but
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:30 PM
Nov 2014

could he be appointed VP?

That is a less settled issue to me.

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