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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:29 AM Nov 2014

Senator Claire McCaskill DISTANCES HERSELF From Obama, Senate Democrats






Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Senator Claire McCaskill (D) was asked about Obama’s plan to use executive action regarding the deportation the families of illegal immigrants. Her response was short and bittersweet. “I’m not crazy about it.” Later, McCaskill lambasted Speaker John Boehner’s refusal to bring up a bipartisan immigration reform bill in the House that was passed by the Senate. However, it is no secret that McCaskill is unhappy with both the leader of her party in the Senate and with President Barack Obama’s plan to take unilateral action on immigration reform. McCaskill also said why she didn’t vote for Harry Reid to be the Senate Minority: “I think [the 2014 election] was a message from the American people,” she said. “Our party got walloped, and I think they’re saying we need to change what we’re doing, and I think change begins in leadership.”



McCaskill also refused to praise Harry Reid or Elizabeth Warren, whom Reid has given a special position within the leadership ranks, saying that moderates like Senator Jon Tester of Montana were also given leadership ranks. The Senator from Missouri is also joining Senators Joe Manchin and Mary Landrieu on pushing to pass the Keystone Pipeline. I suggest McCaskill become a Republican. The Democrats need to get back to being progressive, and they need to band together, now more than ever. I’m tired of conservative Democrats running away from what Democrats stand for because they fear they won’t be re-elected. Democrats running from Obama? Isn’t that why they lost the Senate? P.S. Obama won his re-election. America said YES to his “agenda” twice. And like all the others that distance themselves from Democratic principles and President Obama’s accomplishments, and who tried to be more like Republicans, she will lose. And it will not be pretty for the Democrats.





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Senator Claire McCaskill DISTANCES HERSELF From Obama, Senate Democrats (Original Post) Segami Nov 2014 OP
Another goddamn DINO we are supposed to give unquestioning obedience to. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #1
I think she is just afraid of mylye2222 Nov 2014 #2
It's not a very intelligent response, though. randome Nov 2014 #3
"The only things in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and dead armadillos"-Jim Hightower hobbit709 Nov 2014 #4
Sometimes it was John and Yoko. randome Nov 2014 #6
Sometimes it was a dead snunk in the middle of the road... Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #21
Remember how happy everyone was when she got elected? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #5
because the alternative? Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin. nt alp227 Nov 2014 #15
I thought it was Todd "Don't know much 'bout biology" Akin? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #17
screw you Claire. Presidents have been doing this for years and it wasn't until the African still_one Nov 2014 #7
She needs to go. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #8
Not being critical or skeptical, merely curious: what was her reaction to the Brown KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #20
I will look for links. It was in two interviews onecaliberal Nov 2014 #24
I had read elsewhere (maybe on a different thread here?) that some felt McCaskill's response KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #30
That was the gist of it IMO onecaliberal Nov 2014 #31
McCaskill Statement on Ferguson Shooting Segami Nov 2014 #25
None of those statements are in line with the live onecaliberal Nov 2014 #33
Winning Skeowes28 Nov 2014 #9
message from the American: Ah... Most of Americans didn't bother to vote: You suck that bad. Johonny Nov 2014 #10
You guys all suck and won't do anything to help me belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #11
are you arguing that disillusionment doesn't cause lower voter turnout? Johonny Nov 2014 #14
that's a self fulfilling feedback loop - someone gets disillusion so they dont vote giving them more belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #23
Because voting always works! jeff47 Nov 2014 #28
they wont run away from their voters if they know their voters will vote for them belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #41
But but but I was just told on the DU that appealing to conservatives was just a hoax. Rex Nov 2014 #12
She needs to be primaried... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #13
it's Missouri - doubt an Elizabeth Warren or Jeff Merkley would win there nt alp227 Nov 2014 #16
Yeah, but someone with a message for the working class... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #22
Missouri is an extremely conservative state Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #40
I shall place her on my list of those I will refuse to donate to in the future. jwirr Nov 2014 #18
McCaskill is an 'honorary co-chair' of Third Way Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #19
Third Wayer Ahoy! LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #26
She's getting ready for 2016 Proud Public Servant Nov 2014 #27
Probably Aerows Nov 2014 #35
The Fake Dems are fredamae Nov 2014 #29
Never cared for her (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #32
I used to respect her Aerows Nov 2014 #34
It is not lost on me, and it shouldn't be lost on anyone that she represents Missouri where Nixon is Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #36
Except Robbins Nov 2014 #43
Ahhh!! That makes sense! Thanks. I know there are proud liberals who are white... Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #44
Yep Robbins Nov 2014 #45
Someone needs to tell the Senator that the days of distancing yourself from the party's leadership Yavin4 Nov 2014 #37
Campaigning to help the TeaPubliKlans to 60, one right wing circle D at a time. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #38
Bob Schieffer and the rest of the pseudo-centrist, phony, corporate media mainstreaming Fox "News" Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #39
So many politicians putting their cushy perk-filled jobs and continued power ahead of principle aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2014 #42
Feckless Democrats Shoot Each Other In The Foot. Atman Nov 2014 #46

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. Another goddamn DINO we are supposed to give unquestioning obedience to.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:33 AM
Nov 2014

At least according to those that accuse us of voting for President Cruz in 2016 otherwise.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
2. I think she is just afraid of
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:38 AM
Nov 2014

being registered back as a Clintonverse traitor. Its only self protection.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. It's not a very intelligent response, though.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014

She should be able to support the President and express herself without taking the lazy route of walking down the middle.
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hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
4. "The only things in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and dead armadillos"-Jim Hightower
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:46 AM
Nov 2014
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. Sometimes it was John and Yoko.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:49 AM
Nov 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
7. screw you Claire. Presidents have been doing this for years and it wasn't until the African
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:06 AM
Nov 2014

American did it that people are suddenly not happy about it?

Where was the media and the so-called critics under bush?

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/orders/

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
8. She needs to go.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:07 AM
Nov 2014

I said it before when I saw her reaction to the brown shooting and I'm saying it again. This woman needs to go. She represents everything wrong with our party and why we lose.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
20. Not being critical or skeptical, merely curious: what was her reaction to the Brown
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 02:11 PM
Nov 2014

shooting? (I would appreciate any links you might have that bear on this question too.)

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
24. I will look for links. It was in two interviews
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:11 PM
Nov 2014

In particular where she tries to skirt around the fact that people in her state do not trust the police. She basically insinuated it was their own fault.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
30. I had read elsewhere (maybe on a different thread here?) that some felt McCaskill's response
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:12 PM
Nov 2014

to the Brown shooting was unsatisfactory. I didn't make a note of it at the time nor the reasons for it.

It may have been a post saying that McCaskill had essentially signed off on how McCulloch and Nixon are handling matters. If she's hunky-dorey with the way the case is being handled by those two yo-yos, then she's really a waste of time, imho.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
25. McCaskill Statement on Ferguson Shooting
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:23 PM
Nov 2014

Monday, August 11, 2014

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Claire McCaskill released the following statement in response to news surrounding the shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer:

“As a mother, I grieve for this child and his family. I pray that the wonderful, hardworking, and God-loving people of Ferguson will find peace and patience as we wait for the results of what will be numerous and thorough investigations of what happened. I, like so many other Missourians, will not be satisfied until we have a complete and transparent understanding of all the facts and circumstances that led to this young man’s death.”


http://www.mccaskill.senate.gov/media-center/news-releases/mccaskill-statement-on-ferguson-shooting




"...Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., told reporters Tuesday that police should be required to wear body cameras if their department is receiving money from the federal government. "It seems to me that before we give federal funds to police departments, we ought to mandate that they have body cams," McCaskill said.

McCaskill’s comments come after the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, earlier this month, which set off a series of protests in the St. Louis suburb. McCaskill, who called on Ferguson officials to “demilitarize” the police response, said the body camera mandate would be “a great legacy” to follow Brown’s death...."

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/08/28/is-claire-mccaskill-right-to-say-police-should-wear-body-cameras





"...Later, on Capitol Hill, Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said she believed that the Brown shooting had “solidified a lot of discontent, reasonable discontent, about some of the policies of this country, particularly when it comes to the criminal justice system.

“But on the other hand, it also is demonstrating the kind of robust support we have in this country for our police officers,” she continued. “And it is navigating those two issues that is such a challenge — making sure that we support our police but also hear the protesters, because it is Mike Brown, but it is also much bigger than Michael Brown....”


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/scholar-blames-ferguson-shooting-on-history-of-government-segregation-policies/article_5fe91ffa-9f0d-5e05-98d5-af979ad5f901.html


 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
33. None of those statements are in line with the live
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:34 PM
Nov 2014

Interviews she gave when Nixon activated the National guard last time. Or even how she supported the chief of police and the governor.

 

Skeowes28

(62 posts)
9. Winning
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:21 AM
Nov 2014

She has. To do what it takes to win Id rather have her than another faucken gop hack in the senate

Johonny

(26,179 posts)
10. message from the American: Ah... Most of Americans didn't bother to vote: You suck that bad.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

They are so disillusioned with the government after Republicans made the plan to break it they gave up voting. There message couldn't be louder. You guys all suck and won't do anything to help me. * you I'm not voting. If she wants to sign up for more of that then she should resign and let an American that wants to govern and get people to believe in governance again. She sucks at her job and wants others to suck hard too, great message there.

Johonny

(26,179 posts)
14. are you arguing that disillusionment doesn't cause lower voter turnout?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:58 PM
Nov 2014

because there is a mountain of evidence that suggests that disillusionment leads to people making bad choices and not voting. I voted but I won't pretend that programmed disillusionment and creating and teaching an atmosphere of helplessness doesn't lead to people not voting. There's just too much information out there that says it does. Leaders that plan to produce this effect like the GOP has done for the past 6 years are horrible leaders because they undermine our process. If she supports that then she sucks. She has supported that so she sucks. Screw her.

When people are disillusioned it often takes very little to make them not vote. Good political scientists understand that and use that against society. You can either accept what studies say or pretend somehow society works different and magically pure. It is really up to you. I don't see society as such a simple model.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
23. that's a self fulfilling feedback loop - someone gets disillusion so they dont vote giving them more
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 02:25 PM
Nov 2014

reps of an opposing view making that person more disillusioned so they still dont vote , round and round we go. voting is the only way to break the cycle . sitting it out is not the answer

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. Because voting always works!
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:48 PM
Nov 2014

Look at the 2008 election and that all-Democratic Congress and Presidency and how.....little they actually got done.

Why'd so little get done? Conservative Democrats believing they could get Republicans to vote for them. Ignoring that Republicans would rather tear off their own arms than pull the lever for a Democrat.

Then we lost the house in 2010. And Democrats doubled-down on conservative appeal. And more and more "no really! We're moderate!!" crap.

You want to "break the cycle", you need to break the cycle of Democrats running away from their voters. And blindly voting because of the "D" after the name doesn't break that cycle.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
41. they wont run away from their voters if they know their voters will vote for them
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:51 PM
Nov 2014

the dem party needs a new base. if the dem voters voted on a consistent basis the dem pols wouldnt feel the need to cater to the right for the moderate votes. dem pols have to do that because they cant count on their base to vote them back in . And "blindly" voting because of the "D" after the name doesn't break that cycle. yes it does cause democrats would need to lean right because they would have the votes to get them back in office.

pretty telling you would add blindly to that statement. youre part of the problem and you need to change your attitude.imo

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. But but but I was just told on the DU that appealing to conservatives was just a hoax.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:16 PM
Nov 2014

That our candidates never did that and their loss was due to Sasquatch. Naturally I believed them.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. Yeah, but someone with a message for the working class...
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 02:22 PM
Nov 2014

Which she clearly does not have.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
40. Missouri is an extremely conservative state
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:55 AM
Nov 2014

Like Pennsylvania, it has two more-or-less "blue" cities at its east and west ends, with a sea of red in most other places.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
27. She's getting ready for 2016
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:30 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:19 PM - Edit history (1)

When she'll make a run for MO governor.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
29. The Fake Dems are
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:50 PM
Nov 2014

exposing themselves.
I've long believed the country would be a Better place without McCaskill and Landrieu plus a few more of the corporate loving wall street "oily dems".

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
36. It is not lost on me, and it shouldn't be lost on anyone that she represents Missouri where Nixon is
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:45 PM
Nov 2014

governor and where they are about to hand down a Grand Jury verdict, freeing a white cop who killed an unarmed young black man in cold blood.

Nah, just a coincidence, Claire?

Gotta distance herself from the black Muslim from Kenya residing in the White House. Wouldn't want to mess up your and Nixon's reelection chances in 2016 with the good white folk in Missourah!

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
43. Except
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:42 PM
Nov 2014

Nixon can't run for reelection In 2016.He can run for senate.

I am from Missouri and i can say he is done in Missouri politics.No democrat can get elected here without strong turnout inst louis and kansas city.Nixon has ensured blacks won't support him ever again.Hell I am white missouri liberal and i won't support him ever
again.

McCaskill Is eaher going to try to run for governor in 2016 or is worried about her 2018 reelection chances.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
44. Ahhh!! That makes sense! Thanks. I know there are proud liberals who are white...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:51 PM
Nov 2014

...and are risking their lives, standing side by side with the other protestors in Ferguson, so I appreciate that you understood that I wasn't casting a wide net.

Obama won the state in the Democratic primaries in 2008. He also won it closely in the general, if I remember. So I know that there are good people there.

I guess Claire sees this as her best strategy, though. If she has until 2018, this is a very long time to go. People don't have that long of a memory. I don't get it, but o.k.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
45. Yep
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:01 PM
Nov 2014

There were those of us who worked to reject Hillary for Obama here.Strong turnout in st louis and kansas city almost run Mo for obama.In fact had nader not been on ballet in 2008 Obama might have taken MO.

Nixon has always had problems with black voters till 2008.That what killed his run for senate in 1998.

Before long Mccaskill may try to forget she endorsed obama for 2008 and 2012.Now I have to give her credit that unlike other state
dems In 2012 she was willing to say she endorsed him for reelection here In Mo.

Unlike nixon she has tried to at least pretend at times to listen to those In ferguson.

Dems like Nixon and McCaskill don't seem to realize they need to respect base.GOP would never ailenate base.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
37. Someone needs to tell the Senator that the days of distancing yourself from the party's leadership
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:49 PM
Nov 2014

are over. You are tied with Obama and everything that he stands for. Your opponent will hang Obama around your neck and there's no strategy to counteract that.

Stand strong with Obama and give yourself a chance to win. Run away from him, and you guarantee yourself a loss.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
38. Campaigning to help the TeaPubliKlans to 60, one right wing circle D at a time.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:16 AM
Nov 2014

Folks will want to call them the Spelunking Gang because the "cave" all the time but the reality will be they are just moving the agenda they support. That ain't cave, that is being complicit.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
39. Bob Schieffer and the rest of the pseudo-centrist, phony, corporate media mainstreaming Fox "News"
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:24 AM
Nov 2014


....propaganda are the real villains destroying America, not Claire McCaskill. Replacing her in the Senate with Todd Akin would NOT be an improvement.


I don't think that the headline "Senator Claire McCaskill DISTANCES HERSELF From Obama, Senate Democrats" is an accurate summary of the interview at all, and totally ignores the trust of her replies, which was overwhelmingly SUPPORT of the President.


A more truthful headline for the interview would be "Pseudo-centrist GOP Troll Bob Schieffer and CBS Shamelessly Peddle GOP Propaganda".


We need a higher profile for full-throated truth-tellers like Warren and Sanders, but those who think getting rid of Clair McCaskill would help are naive.




















aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
42. So many politicians putting their cushy perk-filled jobs and continued power ahead of principle
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:05 PM
Nov 2014

and true service. I keep waiting for a politician who comes into office saying he/she doesn't care about popularity polls and won't put concern about being re-elected above doing what's right. I keep waiting for a politician who doesn't want politics to be their permanent profession but only a means to helping society.

I would love to see a Senator come into office and tell the public they won't be swayed at all about any polls, they won't spend even ten seconds raising money while in office, they won't spend even ten seconds talking to a lobbyist and won't even let a lobbyist through the front door, and they won't sell their soul by supporting bad legislation just because it might save their job. They would tell the public they absolutely will not seek re-election beyond the first term and tell their constituents to vote against them if they let power go to their head and do seek re-election.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
46. Feckless Democrats Shoot Each Other In The Foot.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

We couldn't run a fucking yard sale, never mind a political party.

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