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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSpills in Alberta in the past 4 mos -
*similar info cross posted in socialist progressives group*
As a socialist I am always concerned about labor, and jobs being created for people both in the US and ultimately worldwide. Ideally full-time jobs at a livable rate of pay. But this is probably the worst possible way to create 50 permanent jobs. At the very least let's invest in alternative, sustainable forms of energy.
Just in case you haven't been at Huffington Post to this week - this is important info:
Mon Nov 17, 2014 at 02:52 PM PST
There's Been HOW Many Pipeline Spills in Alberta in The Last Four Months??
by Gwennedd
Oct 3, 2014 Canadian Natural Resources Limited 11Km East of Delia 10,000 litres of Crude oil
Oct 5, 2014 Nexen Energy ULC 2.5Km SouthWest of Kinosis 5,800 litres of Toxic water
Oct 5, 2014 Cenovus Energy Inc 56Km East of Brooks 9,800 litres of Toxic water
Oct 5, 2014 Nexen Energy ULC 41Km SouthEast of Ft. McMurray 13,000 litres of Condensate
Oct 10, 2014 Husky Oil 30Km SouthEast of Vermilion 50,000 litres of Crude oil and 25,000 litres of toxic water
Oct 13, 2014 Arc Resources 5Km North of Redwater 150,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 11, 2014 TAQA North Ltd 44Km SouthWest of Spirit River 24,000 litres of Crude oil
Oct 14, 2014 Whitecap Resources Inc 37Km NorthWest of Sexsmith 10,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 15, 2014 Penn West Petroleum Ltd -14Km SouthEast of Slave Lake 52,000 litres Crude oil
Oct 14, 2014 Zargon Oil & Gas Ltd 26Km NorthWest of Vauxhall 8,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 17, 2014 TAQA North Ltd 32Km NorthWest of Rocky Mountain House 18,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 21, 2014 Harvest Operations Corp 20Km East of Galahad 200,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 26, 2014 Apache Canada Ltd -9Km East of Zama City 50,000 litres of Toxic water
Total = Over 625,000 Litres of toxic crap spilled in Alberta for just the month of October and not one Mainstream media reports about it.
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Source here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/17/1345431/-There-s-Been-HOW-Many-Pipeline-Spills-in-Alberta-in-The-Last-Four-Months
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I have always sort of figured if I could not stand things here any longer, I could move to Canada. Seems as if Canada is destroying itself, also. End of unexplored fantasy. Why do we do these things? Why Why Why
Spazito
(50,165 posts)made up of, primarily, conservatives and libertarians. Oil is king, full stop, sadly.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It's not about the pipe...it's about what is IN the pipe.
and this is so not worth it for 50 jobs. There are so many other directions we can go. Renewable energy - let's put some tax money into wind power for example.
This pipeline is just wrong on so many levels.
Dayam. Does anyone actually still live there? I can understand someone who lived there all their lives, like old folks, but how can anyone with children stay there?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I don't think cleaning up toxic spills is a job creation project. I'm sorry some in labor have put their shoulder to this particular wheel--green jobs are what is needed, not this horrorshow.
TBF
(32,015 posts)and they will say whatever they have to (no matter how inaccurate) to trick people into supporting their profit-making endeavors
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Just reminding them...