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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWarren Torches GOP On Economy: 'We Tried It for 30 years, It Was 'Nearly Catastrophic'
"The Republicans have a pretty simple philosophy: they say if those at the top have more more power for Wall Street players to do whatever they want and more money for tax cuts than somehow they can be counted on to build the economy for everyone else," Warren said. "Well, we tried it for 30 years and it didnt work. In fact the consequences were nearly catastrophic."
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"We tested the Republican ideas and they failed, they failed spectacularly. Theres no denying that fact," Warren said. "We know the importance of accountability on Wall Street the benefits of having a better educated work force. The advantages that come from investments of high speed rail and medical research."
The senator from Massachusetts, near the end, interestingly, did also seem to suggest there should be some introspection in the Democratic party.
"People across this country get it. Sure, theres a lot of work to be done and theres a long way to go before Democrats can reclaim the right to say that were fighting for Americas working people, that were fighting to build a future not just for some of our children but for all of our children," Warren said. "No, were not there yet but dont forget the good news. Our agenda is Americas agenda."
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jwirr
(39,215 posts)it fails like it has then everything is just moving one way - up. And that is exactly what they want. For the rich to get richer and the poor get poorer. And in the meantime the middle class disappears.
cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)as well as alot of other long term employees because the company wanted to reduce their costs as he was getting paid 14 bucks an hour and had 4 - 5 weeks of paid vacation so they fired him and the others to replace them with part timers.
Part timers that they cap at 24 hours a week and if they go over the limit a 2nd time they fire.
Now my brother finally found a new job but it pays just under 10 bucks an hours so anyone who says trickle down works needs to pull their fucking heads out of their ass because it doesnt.
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I didn't see any mention of the ACA ("Obamacare" in the post.
cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)The company in this case wants to reduce its costs as far as benefits go so they fired my brother and other full timers in order to get out of paying for things like paid vacation time he and the others had earned and sick days and as for hiring part timers with so short of hours they did that in order to avoid having to pay them benefits.
The ACA is just the current BS excuse some idiots are trying to blame for why companies like Bi-Lo, Walmart and McDonalds are treating their employees like shit but the truth is this shitty treatment isnt new and instead the truth is the reason why they do it is due to greed.
They could easily afford to pay their workers more if they wanted to but they are to greedy and they just dont care for their workers of if they are living in poverty.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)When they talk of success, it is purely selfish. They don't mind that their sheep believe that they are included and would be seeing the same returns if only not for "them".
Volaris
(10,274 posts)I watched the Presidential Address on Immigration Reform tonight.
The story of the woman who was brought here when she was four, learned English by reading the paper and watching PBS, and went on to attain more than one collegiate degree.
I can just see some dick Tea-Party-er thinking to themselves "Well "I" didn't have the opportunity to go to college, so that's not fair to me at all don't "I" deserve what she has? Why didn't "I" have that just GIVEN to ME??? I'M AN AMERICAN! Why am "I" not worthy?!?!?
your parents didn't work FOUR FUCKING JOBS to see that you got to do that. THAT'S WHY.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Sorry that my use of pronouns apparently made my point opaque.
The GOP claims their policy is wildly successful. Because it is, but only for the GOP and the Corporate purchasers of GOP policy. Supply Side, Trickle Down whatever one calls it, funnels money to the top, which is declared a success by the GOP. It does not create jobs, it does not stimulate the economy. Take the classic Buggy Whip manufacturer - Supply Side would say that tax incentives, financing, etc. would improve the industry. What utter moron, running a company making a product that isn't selling would expand their business and hire more people to make more product they can't sell? Supply side can not work. Supply is stimulated by Demand, which occurs when people have money to spend.
But the GOP just goes on, declaring success, while the sheep that believe them sink lower and lower.
MissMillie
(38,578 posts)I'm proud to have her representing my state.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)calimary
(81,443 posts)At Last! AT LONG LAST!!! SOMEBODY in a position of power, authority, and influence, is actually saying those things out loud. In public. On Capitol Hill - and not just a guest speaker, either. Somebody INSIDE. Her presence has made Bernie Sanders' voice louder. Often, I notice (and I try to help contribute to that), their names are referenced together. So it's not really just one, it's TWO. Bernie Sanders was pretty much kicked to the curb all the time because he was basically the only one in the last decade or so (after Paul Wellstone's death) who was trying to articulate OUR positions.
Now SHE is, too. And somehow, she has more marquee value, so her voice carries the message louder. Maybe it's because she's younger, maybe it's because she's female, maybe it's because - I dunno - but things are different since she came onboard in the Senate. Since she ran for the Senate and her message started getting out. She is RAWTHER good at messaging, though. Putting the message A) OUT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, and B) putting the message in terms that the middle class can wrap its collective brain around. She gives the message life and vigor and energy. She's breathed life and heart and living, pumping blood into it. She has the common-man touch. And she's articulating the message in ways our stodgy and scatter-brained and frankly chicken-shit reps up til now have been afraid to do. Or maybe they couldn't. Or maybe they thought you have to do it in Senate-speak - which is boring and dull and dead and doesn't reach out and touch the rest of us in the heart and in the gut. You can talk AT somebody. You can speechify AT somebody. AT whole rooms full of people. But you're probably not really connecting. She DOES. And she's warm and human and approachable, and you get the sense that she's really been fighting in the trenches and seeing this close up, and living with it, the way the pampered coast-to-coast Brahmins and other elites and fancy-ass lawyers and heirs and wealthy businesspeople who run successfully for office, who've lived pretty much their whole lives without getting their hands dirty.
Frankly, that's what I always liked about Bill Clinton. Heard him described once as a fatherless boy with an uncertain future back in kindergarten in Arkansas. And that IS what he was, and what he had to start with. And look what happened there. And he's always been able to message well and connect. He's gone all the way to the top and he can STILL connect. He's STILL got the common touch. Something you'll NEVER EVER EVER see with a mitt romney. OR any of the bushes. OR most of the other GOP leadership. ALL of them quite literally born on third base and flatter themselves into thinking they hit a triple. And that goes for young "up-n-comer" george p. bush, too.
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cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)Edit: Also chill with the spam please, thanks.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)her current job as a senator.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)calimary
(81,443 posts)Glad you're here! Yeah, we get it, though. I totally understand your urgency! Hell, MY problem is too much shouting, and I'm sure every DUer here would agree with that! Sometimes I find I'm using capital letters way too often, but then again, sometimes I just get so desperate to spread a meme or point something out or assist in some way that I just can't help myself. So I think this would also serve as an apology to the rest of our brothers and sisters of DU, who somehow find it in their hearts to put up with me nonetheless, patient forgiving souls that they are. I SHOUT, DAMMIT!!!!! Love me ANYWAY!!!!!
Initech
(100,100 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)If nobody has money to buy your product, what good does it do you? It's inventory you have to keep up.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)even poppy bush called it "voodoo economics."
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Reaganomics was a failed experiment. The measurements were off. The experiment that was performed to prove a thesis failed miserably. So we need to go back to the lab and start all over again. We have to keep trying, until we get the equation right.
Comprende?
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Worst financial crash in US history. 2 old institutional banks (Bear Sterns and Lehman Bros) dead and the rest bailed out for $700 billion.
lark
(23,150 posts)Only by driving the US to a third world country status can they get the slave labor, the rolling back of all regulations and the no taxes for the rich that they desire. They don't care if their companys' profits are down, they only care that their personal wealth has greatly increased and are hell bent to make sure no one else is comfortable. Comfortable people won't work for slave wages, won't tolerate the complete military police state they want, won't balk at all war all the time.
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eppur_se_muova
(36,283 posts)How many more people had to lose their homes and jobs and die for lack of affordable medical care to constitute a *true* catastrophe ?
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Go, Senator Warren, and give em hell! K&R
Initech
(100,100 posts)Reagonomics = epic fail!!!!
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)center yet again? Tax cuts for the rich, guns, war, and religious fundamentalist hate speech is all they've got.
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Trickle down crap and it still haunts us today, I wonder when did Warren finally realize the trickle down wasn't working and never was going to work.
POE-PurityOfEssence
(4 posts)Unlike conservatives, she learns from mistakes and betters herself. (rather than just blindly claiming she knows everything and is never wrong like many a repub)
So what she used to vote republican - she's clearly not one now.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Actually it was catastrophic for millions.
IkeRepublican
(406 posts)I get the feeling she's Ted Kennedy's replacement and that's really all she will be.
Believe me, I wish I felt differently and she'd be our president one day.
turbinetree
(24,713 posts)Maybe this will wake the party up as to what to do since she is in the communication side of the new post that was created just for her, just to remind everyone that she is going to do her job, now its time for the democrats to do theirs , and call out the Wall Street crowd everyday behind the public podium and the right wing republicans that there message is nothing except greed and to dismantle this country for private use for more greed
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Good luck with THAT!
cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)because the rich shut off the spigot. Now fair is fair it is time to take from them what they truly owe to the American people and with it create good paying jobs for us all.... A couple of billionaires could fund an entire jobs program on their own and add nothing to the deficit or national debt... I think if the right politicians got elected they would see the best interest for the country and would probably willingly come forward and those that didn't should be called to account through massive taxation or wealth confiscation.
4dsc
(5,787 posts)I cannot say it often enough.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)and you are close..
The middle class was killed (although it was really only a blip to start with)
Unions were killed
College affordability was scrapped
Pensions were gutted, then killed
Tax burden was shifted downward
voting rights were weakened
The New Deal & Great Society were targeted and severely wounded
there are more, but those are fresh in my mind
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Nearly?!
polichick
(37,152 posts)Doesn't add up.