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helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:47 PM Nov 2014

Will the President plan for immigration reform really help udocumented workers?

The president's plan will allow undocumented immigrants who are parents of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents, known as green card holders, to register with the federal government and, if approved, receive a three-year protection from any deportation.


I wish he would go further but I understand he can't but will people actually come out and do this?

Sounds more like a trap

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Will the President plan for immigration reform really help udocumented workers? (Original Post) helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 OP
You think he's just trying to get them out of the shadows so he can eventually deport them? Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #1
No but what happens if a republican wins in 2016 , you don't think that's in their minds? helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #3
Both Reagan and Bush Sr. did the EXACT same thing as Obama and they survived Rex Nov 2014 #6
No Reagan gave amnesty helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #10
Did Dems threaten to impeach Reagan or Bush or did they shutdown the government? Rex Nov 2014 #12
Why are you making this an argument about the GOP? helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #18
Well Obama is helping people that would otherwise spend months in ICE Rex Nov 2014 #19
They absolutley will think this could go very bad for them. helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #21
Talk to some of them? I live in south Texas Rex Nov 2014 #23
Did you ask them about it? the 3 year plan? helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #24
You Better Believe It!!! nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #27
A trap for what? arcane1 Nov 2014 #2
It has the sound of being told to register your gun but we promise helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #5
Use what against them? Their new legal status? arcane1 Nov 2014 #7
for 3 years helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #9
Wouldn't that mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #26
hope so helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #31
What is the problem with being told to register your gun? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #13
It's never followed because of distrust of the goverment helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #15
Do you feel that you need your guns to fight the government? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #16
What caused your initial distrust of government? Rex Nov 2014 #20
Initial ? helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #22
Everyone look out! Rex Nov 2014 #4
Dear Federal goverment , You promise you won't deport me for 3 years helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #8
Dude, if that worries you I have some bad news...there is this group called the NSA Rex Nov 2014 #11
It's not going to work helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #14
Time will tell. Rex Nov 2014 #17
I wonder if will be affected ctaylors6 Nov 2014 #25
Are you undocumented? stone space Nov 2014 #28
no helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #30
Then you probably won't be deported. stone space Nov 2014 #32
How much do they have to pay for this to happen? yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #29
 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
3. No but what happens if a republican wins in 2016 , you don't think that's in their minds?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:52 PM
Nov 2014

It would be in most people who are thinking about doing this.

I think undocumented workers will avoid this and not register

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Both Reagan and Bush Sr. did the EXACT same thing as Obama and they survived
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:55 PM
Nov 2014

but that was different...because...you know...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. Did Dems threaten to impeach Reagan or Bush or did they shutdown the government?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:09 PM
Nov 2014

Three years is a lot of time to get your house in order.

At least Dems acted like adults and didn't cost the taxpayers billions of dollars having a huge cry over their own incompetence. The GOP cannot say the same thing.

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
18. Why are you making this an argument about the GOP?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:33 PM
Nov 2014

They don't care about immigration reform
If they did they had 8 years to do it with Bush

If you remember the congress and senate was pretty united during the first few years

Democrats and Republicans actually talked to one another in both houses.


This isn't about republicans this is about this plan for reform of immigration tonight.

Nothing will change because they won't register with this 3 year limit

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Well Obama is helping people that would otherwise spend months in ICE
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:37 PM
Nov 2014

before being thrown back across the border, you really think this is a plan to blackmail these folks somewhere down the line? Good luck with that. Nobody is going to believe that garbage.

Does it bother you that Bush and Reagan did the exact same thing? Do you believe in amnesty?

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
21. They absolutley will think this could go very bad for them.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:51 PM
Nov 2014

"Nobody is going to believe that garbage"


Talk to some and just ask them , that's all just ask them

That's what I did

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
23. Talk to some of them? I live in south Texas
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:54 PM
Nov 2014

in a rural town, my neighbors are them and you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried.

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
24. Did you ask them about it? the 3 year plan?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:14 PM
Nov 2014

Then I disagree with you because I know many undocumented workers also
and call many of them my friends
and they feel this can go bad for the ones who register .

I work in the food service industry

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. Wouldn't that mean ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:28 PM
Nov 2014

there will be 2 years (until the 2016 elections) of pressure on Republicans to get a law passed?

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
8. Dear Federal goverment , You promise you won't deport me for 3 years
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:00 PM
Nov 2014

All I have to do is register with you , tell you where I work , live

Hell yeah sign me up!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. Dude, if that worries you I have some bad news...there is this group called the NSA
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:05 PM
Nov 2014

and they have gone far far beyond just holding some paperwork against you. Did you know they spy on all your calls and dig through your emails?

What you worry about is small potatoes to what has been going on for the last 30 years! Glad to see you waking up to the Big Brother state!

You don't even want to hear about this other group called the CIA.

 

helpmetohelpyou

(589 posts)
14. It's not going to work
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:14 PM
Nov 2014

I would be surprised if even 1% of the 5 million register with this plan

I'll be curious to see the numbers if they are ever made public which they
probably won't be.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
32. Then you probably won't be deported.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:59 PM
Nov 2014

Of course, there's no guarantee, since citizens do get deported from time to time, but if I were you, I'd register all of my guns (or better yet, have them all melted down), and stop worrying so much.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. How much do they have to pay for this to happen?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:52 PM
Nov 2014

I heard fine in there somewhere. Will it be reasonable?

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