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Why aren't Netflix and Hulu preempting all streaming video with Obama's speech? (Original Post) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 OP
I like the way you think! n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #1
Probably because their subscribers would be pissed. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #2
Because Netflix and Hulu are not broadcasters. KamaAina Nov 2014 #3
Really? I think it's an ignorant "jab". Cha Nov 2014 #4
True, hence my reply. KamaAina Nov 2014 #5
It's more of a satirical jab, not everything has to be a hair fire rudolph the red Nov 2014 #39
Does this FCC license have a provision that requires them to preempt regular programming Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #10
The sum total of their public affairs programming is evaluated every seven years. KamaAina Nov 2014 #11
Ah, suck up to the president or risk losing your broadcast license. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #13
It's not about sucking up to the Pres. It's about important information LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #41
The public affairs programming requirements Jenoch Nov 2014 #27
All the networks own many licensed broadcast stations KamaAina Nov 2014 #35
Of course the networks still have O & O stations. Jenoch Nov 2014 #37
Yep. Jenoch Nov 2014 #40
My point is that broadcast outlets are fundamentally different than streaming websites KamaAina Nov 2014 #48
The public wants to watch big bang theory and Grays anatomy. Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #24
Apparently it's not so much a question of what the public *want* to watch Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #26
because they aren't given, literally given, the right to print money that a broadcast licence is dsc Nov 2014 #6
But there is no formal requirement in the license requiring preemption for presidential speeches, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #12
they are given that licence because they are supposed to educate the public and serve the public dsc Nov 2014 #14
That would be a very reasonable argument in 1972. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #19
not everyone has cable dsc Nov 2014 #22
PBS (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #25
wow I see ODS is still not curable.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #34
I can only assume you are referring to my relatively rare characterization dsc Nov 2014 #45
I totally oppose their position.....but even a President Bernie Sanders or President E. Warren or VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #46
heck even Bush got this treatment dsc Nov 2014 #47
do you also believe that every radio station in the country should be required to Doctor_J Nov 2014 #28
frankly yes dsc Nov 2014 #30
wow Doctor_J Nov 2014 #31
again they get a humungously valuable licence for free, absolutely free dsc Nov 2014 #33
Keep toeing the line for the networks. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #7
that would be because people are paying for that service RedstDem Nov 2014 #8
Well, many DUers just can't stand the thought of folks watching legacy network shows Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #15
My guess would be because anyone that has used the internet for 5 seconds Rex Nov 2014 #9
Wow, with the 3 all-powerful TV networks, and my poll on the printed Yellow Pages, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #17
Yes that is exactly what I thought when I read your OP. Rex Nov 2014 #20
Go big or stay home! I want speakers at the top of each light post in America. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #16
And anyone who knows for a fact that their neighbor did not watch it Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #18
What about cochlear implants? Beam it right to ya rather than turn neighbor against neighbor. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #21
Univision is preempting the Latin Grammys with the speech DrDan Nov 2014 #23
I thought the speech came on right before the Latin Grammys KamaAina Nov 2014 #36
producer for one of the entries - winner of the category! DrDan Nov 2014 #42
Perhaps because we don't yet live in a dictatorship? Android3.14 Nov 2014 #29
Yes, and loyalty oaths while we are at it! vi5 Nov 2014 #32
Did Fox News carry it? onenote Nov 2014 #38
The NBC and ABC stations aired it in West Palm Beach, FL RockaFowler Nov 2014 #43
I pay netflix xyz dollars/month for entertainment. If I rented videos at the video store magical thyme Nov 2014 #44
Is this a joke? Are you serious? ReverendDeuce Nov 2014 #49
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. Because Netflix and Hulu are not broadcasters.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:09 PM
Nov 2014

Unlike network affiliate stations, they are not licensed by the FCC to operate in the public interest.

Nice jab, though!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. Does this FCC license have a provision that requires them to preempt regular programming
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:44 PM
Nov 2014

whenever the president wants them to?

If so, it's appalling that they are violating the terms of their licenses.

If not, what's the problem? If you want to argue that in future broadcast licenses should have a provision for this, go ahead. But if not, they are free to show their regular programming secure in the knowledge that there are many ways for people to view the speech live.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. The sum total of their public affairs programming is evaluated every seven years.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:46 PM
Nov 2014

Carrying such a speech would earn them points. It is not required, but recommended.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. Ah, suck up to the president or risk losing your broadcast license.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:48 PM
Nov 2014

Yes, I understand that is how it works in quite a few countries.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
41. It's not about sucking up to the Pres. It's about important information
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 06:18 AM
Nov 2014

for the people, but then, you are right, when the hell have the networks done That lately?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
27. The public affairs programming requirements
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:23 PM
Nov 2014

to which you refer are for licensed broadcast stations, not television networks.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
35. All the networks own many licensed broadcast stations
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:56 AM
Nov 2014

especially since the ownership limits have been relaxed in recent years.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
37. Of course the networks still have O & O stations.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:09 AM
Nov 2014

That does not usually reflect on the network operations.

The ownership relaxations happenened in 1996 and was the worst thing to happen in the history of radio bradcasting.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
40. Yep.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:38 AM
Nov 2014

The O&O stations are subject to the same regulations of all the other regulations. I don't know what your point is here.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
48. My point is that broadcast outlets are fundamentally different than streaming websites
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:18 PM
Nov 2014

which renders the OP a false equivalency.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
24. The public wants to watch big bang theory and Grays anatomy.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:11 PM
Nov 2014

Just wait until the ratings come out.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. Apparently it's not so much a question of what the public *want* to watch
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:16 PM
Nov 2014

as it is what the public should watch.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. But there is no formal requirement in the license requiring preemption for presidential speeches,
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:46 PM
Nov 2014

right? So this is some kind of unwritten rule, a moral obligation if you will?

dsc

(52,166 posts)
14. they are given that licence because they are supposed to educate the public and serve the public
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:48 PM
Nov 2014

interest. And yes, covering Presidential speeches should fall into that.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. That would be a very reasonable argument in 1972.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014

But in 2014, anyone who wants to watch the speech live can do so. Without every network preempting their programming.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
22. not everyone has cable
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:03 PM
Nov 2014

Yes, many of us do but many others do not. The fact is tv stations suck at the government teat and should do something in return. Covering the rather rare prime time addresses of the President hardly seems like a big ask for such a valuable property.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
45. I can only assume you are referring to my relatively rare characterization
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

what I meant is that Presidential primetime address, no matter who the President is, are relatively rare. It isn't as if networks are being asked to give up a half hour of primetime on a regular basis. I have had this position on Presidential coverage consistently. I think that the networks owe us for their free license coverage of news events.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
46. I totally oppose their position.....but even a President Bernie Sanders or President E. Warren or
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:29 PM
Nov 2014

even President Hillary Clinton would get the same treatment I am afraid....

dsc

(52,166 posts)
47. heck even Bush got this treatment
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:45 PM
Nov 2014

they have been equal opportunity greedy bastards. I agree this has pretty much nothing at all to do with who the President is.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
28. do you also believe that every radio station in the country should be required to
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:24 PM
Nov 2014

preempt their programming for the address?

dsc

(52,166 posts)
33. again they get a humungously valuable licence for free, absolutely free
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:32 PM
Nov 2014

and they are asked to do one thing, only little thing, in return. Operate in the public interest and educate the public. His speech was maybe 15 minutes add in a 15 minute response and you have a half hour. Let's say this happened once a week. That would be a 1 in 336 ratio. Not exactly alot.

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
7. Keep toeing the line for the networks.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:39 PM
Nov 2014

It will be nice to have some extra spending money during the holidays.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
8. that would be because people are paying for that service
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:40 PM
Nov 2014

a lot of people could give a fuck about politics, actually more people don't care than do, so why force them to pay to watch it?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. Well, many DUers just can't stand the thought of folks watching legacy network shows
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:50 PM
Nov 2014

during the president's speech. So they want not just one, but all 4 such networks to preempt such programming.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. My guess would be because anyone that has used the internet for 5 seconds
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:41 PM
Nov 2014

notices a difference between their TV and a PC connected to the WWW.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. Wow, with the 3 all-powerful TV networks, and my poll on the printed Yellow Pages,
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:52 PM
Nov 2014

DU is certainly showing its average age today.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
16. Go big or stay home! I want speakers at the top of each light post in America.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:52 PM
Nov 2014

OR, better yet...

Stick some better graphics on this, and have Beyoncé or Kanye narrate it. The federal government SHOULD be able to control TV content When the President decides there is an important message He or She needs to get out.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. And anyone who knows for a fact that their neighbor did not watch it
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:54 PM
Nov 2014

should turn them in for a whistleblower's reward.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
21. What about cochlear implants? Beam it right to ya rather than turn neighbor against neighbor.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:02 PM
Nov 2014

I'm also thinking that traffic lights should all turn red for the duration of the message, and that cash registers should go dark until The President is done speaking.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
23. Univision is preempting the Latin Grammys with the speech
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:06 PM
Nov 2014

darn

my brother is nominated and I wanted to watch the Grammys

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
36. I thought the speech came on right before the Latin Grammys
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:01 AM
Nov 2014

and what is tu hermano nominated for?

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
42. producer for one of the entries - winner of the category!
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 06:46 AM
Nov 2014

(wish I could be more specific - but that would jeopardize anonymity)

proud of him for his win

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
29. Perhaps because we don't yet live in a dictatorship?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:26 PM
Nov 2014

I'm putting this one in the box labelled "Questions to ask a grumpy nun".

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
32. Yes, and loyalty oaths while we are at it!
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:30 PM
Nov 2014

Force everyone to watch with their eyes preys open Clockwork Orange style!

onenote

(42,767 posts)
38. Did Fox News carry it?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:54 AM
Nov 2014

And if not carrying the speech means that the networks are showing their anti-Obama, pro-Republican bias, does it mean that if Fox carried it, they are "fair and balanced" now?

For what it's worth, my local CBS affiliate, owned by Gannett, showed the speech.

The decision not to show the speech was a business decision not a political one. If the networks had shown the speech, it would have been incumbent, based on common practice over the past several decades, to also allow the republicans to give a response. And that would have eaten up more time than the networks were willing to give.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
44. I pay netflix xyz dollars/month for entertainment. If I rented videos at the video store
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:34 AM
Nov 2014

would you expect them to "pre-empt" rental videos by handing out videos of the speech instead of whatever I thought I was renting?

ReverendDeuce

(1,643 posts)
49. Is this a joke? Are you serious?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:20 PM
Nov 2014

"When dear leader speaks, all devices and smartphones and all content streaming services MUST carry his IMPORTANT MESSAGE!"

Imagine how outraged you'd be if it were Bush...

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