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Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:06 AM Nov 2014

The Memory Hole? "The War on Poverty" and "Victorian Values"

Two TV documentary series that left an impression on me were Victorian Values, a British series shown on Discovery when that channel was intelligent in the late 1980s, and The War on Poverty, which was shown on PBS in the 1990s.

A while ago, I looked for them online, and they are nowhere to be found. The only possibility is the companion book to "Victorian Values," maybe.

I even sought out the producers of The War on Poverty, the same production company that made Eyes on the Prize, and they replied with a terse, "We have withdrawn that series from circulation."

So why could this be?

Victorian Values was about Victorian English approaches to various aspects of society, and it was highly critical of punitive attitudes toward the poor and reverence toward robber baron economics, two features of the modern British Conservative Party. Yet the Brits are usually pretty tolerant of "subversive" TV, given that they have shown dramas such as A Very British Coup and documentaries such as The Power of Nightmares.

The War on Poverty was a five-part series that showed that, contrary to Ronald Reagan's remark (a favorite of disdainful conservatives) "We fought a war on poverty, and poverty won," the War on Poverty failed because it was sabotaged by powerful interests across the country and in Congress, who thought charity was just fine but didn't like it when, for example, VISTA workers told Appalachian farmers and urban slum dwellers about their legal rights.

So why would such a series and the British one be withdrawn from circulation? (They're not on YouTube, either.)

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The Memory Hole? "The War on Poverty" and "Victorian Values" (Original Post) Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 OP
K&R.... daleanime Nov 2014 #1
And another Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #2
"... a world of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance, and public manipulation ..." Jim__ Nov 2014 #3
Verrrrry interesting.... truebluegreen Nov 2014 #4

Jim__

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3. "... a world of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance, and public manipulation ..."
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:27 AM
Nov 2014

From wikipedia:

Nineteen Eighty-Four, sometimes published as 1984, is a dystopian novel by George Orwell published in 1949.[1][2] The novel is set in Airstrip One (formerly known as Great Britain), a province of the superstate Oceania in a world of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance, and public manipulation, dictated by a political system euphemistically named English Socialism (or Ingsoc in the government's invented language, Newspeak) under the control of a privileged Inner Party elite that persecutes all individualism and independent thinking as "thoughtcrimes".[3] ...


Why should we be surprised to find that the Memory Hole is also here?
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