CNN Breaking News email: Police Officer Darren Wilson to resign

[applegrove]

"Ferguson, Missouri, Police Officer Darren Wilson is in the final stages of negotiations with city officials to resign, according to people close to the talks.

Wilson is a white police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, a black teen, in Ferguson on August 9."

[jillan]

1. Next he needs to move out of the country.

Good riddance!

[roguevalley]

35. he is either fleeing having to run the riots when they let the cop off or he's

fleeing the KKK when the guy gets indicted. Either way, he's fleeing.

[kelliekat44]

66. They must know that he will not be indicted so this a crumb to the community. I hope some good

attorney sues the pants off Ferguson and the police dept. in a civil suit.

[jillan]

67. I am hoping for some civil action as well.

[jwirr]

106. Yes, that seems to be the only way out. However, I suspect he turned everything he owns over to

his wife already so there will be nothing left. It still would be worth it just to establish their guilt.

[hatrack]

2. Great, so now he can go and get a job in Chesterfield, or University City, or Ballwin . . .

I'm sure they'd welcome his crime-fighting expertise . . .

[Sparhawk60]

43. Nope

Nope, I am sure he will walk away with enough money that he will never need to work again.

[Frank Cannon]

55. Yup.

Not to mention that FOX news most likely already has a lucrative spot picked out for him as a "law enforcement analyst".

[Sparhawk60]

58. Mmmmm

The Ollie North career path, break the law, get caught, make more money as a fox talking head then he ever would in the military/law enforcement.

[hatrack]

65. Kind of like the Mark Fuhrman of the Heartland!

I'm sure Sean Hannity is keeping a chair warm for him.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

120. No - more like little town in Idaho

as another poster stated -- he's the new Mark Fuhrman

[sheshe2]

3. Next he needs to go to jail!

[LawDeeDah]

12. That's right! Jail time for the murderer.

grrrr.

[branford]

14. There's usually a trial and conviction before sentencing . . . nt

[sheshe2]

17. True...

Yet it is doubtful that justice will be served. They have lied and covered it up. If you doubt that ...I know a bridge somewhere...you could get a good price for it.

[branford]

19. I would welcome a trial, state or federal.

I'm most eager to see all the evidence and testimony, not just limited and targeted leaks. I assume that there is a great deal, both good and bad, that we do not yet know about.

If the actual evidence is a scarce as suggested by the state grand jury leaks and the apparent unwillingness of the DOJ to seek a federal indictment, I doubt conviction is a realistic possibility.

In no event, however, do I believe an indictment or conviction is warranted without sufficient evidence to believe a good-faith, beyond a reasonable doubt, judgment can be rendered, as mandated by the most basic canons of prosecutor ethics. I similarly do not believe in "justice" rendered by the mob, and hope no violence ensues in the event of a no bill by the grand jury.

[sheshe2]

20. You know what? I am tired.

Wow, you mean the mob of angry protesters that were gassed in Ferguson? Is that the mob you are talking about?

In no event, however, do I believe an indictment or conviction is warranted without sufficient evidence to believe a good-faith, beyond a reasonable doubt, judgment can be rendered, as mandated by the most basic canons of prosecutor ethics. I similarly do not believe in "justice" rendered by the mob, and hope no violence ensues in the event of a no bill by the grand jury.

Or do you mean this mob~



Or this mob? Who are YOU referring to?



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025831605

[branford]

22. I mean that citizens cannot take the law into their own hands.

In the event of no state indictment, I fully support peaceful protest, as I would with any matter.

However, under no circumstances do I support rioting or similar conduct. I welcome the full force of the law against anyone who threatens and harms others and destroy other's property, whether they be citizens or police employing unlawful force.

[sheshe2]

24. Well good for you!

In the event of no state indictment, I fully support peaceful protest, as I would with any matter.

However, under no circumstances do I support rioting or similar conduct. I welcome the full force of the law against anyone who threatens and harms others and destroy other's property, whether they be citizens or police employing unlawful force.

Well good for you, you welcome the full force of the law on peaceful protesters and reporters as well. Kudos to you!!!!!!!!!!!

Where did you stand on this issue~ It might be what you call "similar conduct"

Is Cliven Bundy the New NRA Poster Child?

With Bunkerville crisis, NRA reaping what it has sowed through decades of insurrectionist propaganda

"There never was a government without force. What is the meaning of government? An institution to make people do their duty. A government leaving it to a man to do his duty, or not, as he pleases, would be a new species of government, or rather no government at all." - Second Amendment author James Madison, during the 1788 Virginia Ratifying Convention

A potentially bloody tragedy was averted on April 11th when federal agents withdrew from the Bunkerville, Nevada ranch of Cliven Bundy following a tense-standoff in a dispute over grazing rights. Despite having a court order that allowed them to impound cattle of Bundy's that were trespassing on federal land, Bureau of Land Management (BLM) officials were forced to retreat and return his livestock after a "1,000-strong coalition of armed men" gathered at the ranch and made it clear they were ready for a shooting war. A BLM statement said the retreat was required because of "serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public."



The armed gathering of pro-gun activists, anti-government groups and right-wing-politicians at Bundy's ranch did not happen in a political vacuum. It was the result of decades of propaganda from the National Rifle Association (NRA) and other gun lobby groups; propaganda that (perversely) informs Americans that they have an individual right under the Second Amendment to shoot elected officials, law enforcement officers, and military service members if they sense our government has become "tyrannical."

There is certainly nothing "tyrannical" in the behavior of the Bureau of Land Management. The agency was founded in 1946 and administers 245 million acres of public land in 12 Western states. They have shown remarkable patience and restraint in their dealings with Bundy, which date back two decades. In 1993, Bundy stopped paying federal grazing fees. Since that time, he has expanded the range of federal land on which he is trespassing. As BLM noted, "This is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that Cliven Bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public lands ranchers do every year. After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-horwitz/is-cliven-bundy-the-new-n_b_5197066.html

Why do white people get a pass and BLACK people do not? Try to be logical here. Businesses will be hurt? People will lose money and income? Holy shit, that is more important than the death count we will see when this breaks, the white people just declared war on black people and once again it will be excessive force. People should not die for the color of their skin.

What is your stance on this one? He has ripped of the Government for years and we the tax payers are dealing with that. We are paying for his theft, yet he is aokay. and allowed to stand.

[bravenak]

27. I notice there never is an actual answer to questions like this.

Just talk of mobs and unlawful force. Some people seem to support police riots and such.

[sheshe2]

29. And there will not be an answer, bravenak.

At least not an honest one.

Gotta go, taking my dad home tomorrow~

I can't fight them anymore right now.

[bravenak]

34. Goodnight, Sweet.

I hope you dream a good dream of him tonight.

[aikoaiko]

109. Regarding that picture of the would-be sniper...

...if there were police on that bridge they would have stepped on his neck. But there wasn't so nothing happened.

[branford]

33. Did you actually read my post?

I mean that citizens cannot take the law into their own hands.

In the event of no state indictment, I fully support peaceful protest, as I would with any matter.

However, under no circumstances do I support rioting or similar conduct. I welcome the full force of the law against anyone who threatens and harms others and destroy other's property, whether they be citizens or police employing unlawful force.

Police cannot lawfully use harsh force against actual peaceful protesters. Throwing rocks, breaking windows, threatening innocents, setting fires and similar conduct, is NOT peaceful protest.

There are many here that may excuse violence if there is no indictment, but it definitely does not include me.

[TBF]

95. Yes we hear you -

crystal clear. You're not fooling anyone with your cries for civility. Maybe your time would be better used contributing to Darren's "go fund me" page or something.

[joeglow3]

31. You are lying

At no point did he say they welcomed police force against peaceful protestors.

[Oktober]

36. Do you just keep that in copy and paste?

Last edited Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Break it out whenever you have to talk about meeting an ethical and legal standard and have nothing to say?

[Sparhawk60]

46. It is Simple

"Why do white people get a pass and BLACK people do not?"

White people (tea party, militia types) show up with guns. Black people show up with preachers, protest signs and chants. A great example of the difference was the white nun who was shot while praying on her knees in Ferguson. She was no threat or danger to the police, so they shoot her.

On the other hand, Mr. Militia sniper pictured above is a clear danger to the police, so he is left alone.

The key is to stop thinking rationally or logically. You need to think like a coward, who would a coward pick a fight with? An old lady on her knees, for a sniper that could kill you from several hundred yards away.

That picture of the nun who was shot with the rubber bullet will haunt me for a long time.

[GGJohn]

89. Did you even read his post?

Nowhere did he say he condones police violence against peaceful protesters.

[KingCharlemagne]

21. Please stop conflating and confusing the responsibiliy of a grand jury with

that of a petit jury. The Grand Jury is NOT responsible for determining whether the evidence and witnesses prove Wilson guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It must only ascertain whether probable cause exists that a crime has been committed.

[branford]

23. I am well aware of the differences between a grand jury and trial jury.

Read my post again.

I stated that if the leaks are even remotely true, a conviction is very unlikely.

I also stated that prosecutorial ethics demand that a prosecutor should not proceed with a trial unless they honestly believe sufficient admissible evidence exists to convince a duly impaneled jury to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. This is true whether or not an indictment exists or they believe they can still win at trial. If the leaks are to be believed, I would not be surprised if this is the reason why the DOJ has apparently not started their own federal grand jury proceedings.

Nevertheless, most of the arguments about the grand jury on DU are red herrings. Many here have already decided Wilson is guilty of a multitude of crimes prior to the release of all the available evidence, and will be satisfied with nothing less than a quick conviction. A trial would be little more than a formality. An indictment then acquittal would hardly mitigate the tempers of many here.

[sheshe2]

25. Well many here also believe that Michael Brown is guilty because of the color of his skin. nt

[branford]

32. Are you implying I'm a racist for not prejudging criminal guilt and discussing the relevant law?

First, the "guilt" of Michael Brown is not at issue, and it goes without saying that no one should die because of the color of their skin.

However, the issue in the shooting is whether Officer Wilson followed proper procedure, including having a reasonable (even if wrong) fear for his life. Any defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty, even those individuals we may personally find repulsive. More importantly, any criminal conviction requires actual admissible evidence sufficient to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt concerning the guilt of the accused.

Despite the scattered leaks about the case, we know the authorities, state and federal, and grand jury, have far more evidence than has been publicly revealed. I am not in the habit, both by inclination and profession as a trial attorney (although I practice commercial litigation), to prejudge any matter without all available facts.

Michael Brown's death was unquestionably a tragedy. That does not mean that a crime definitely occurred, no less can be proven in a court of law.

[joeglow3]

56. What a disgusting accusation.

[KingCharlemagne]

41. If you are 'well aware of the differences between a grand

jury and trial jury," then that suggests you are posting in bad faith here in post #19:

In no event, however, do I believe an indictment or conviction is warranted without sufficient evidence to believe a good-faith, beyond a reasonable doubt. . . .
(Emphasis added)

The Grand Jury does not have to reach the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt," your 'belief' notwithstanding. The GJ need only reach the standard of 'probable cause,' a phrase which appears nowhere in either of your two posts.

[ChiciB1]

52. I Always Laugh At That Statement....

That bridge has been sold so many times! Would be fantastic to find a bridge that you can buy for that kind of money!
LOL, just adding a little humor to this disgusting situation.

The fact he's able to resign says it all, if really true. What country do we live in again, I keep forgetting!

[samsingh]

102. usually you don't need to shoot an unarmed man 5+ times either

[Oktober]

107. Do you have much experience with such things?

[samsingh]

118. i haven't shot an unarmed man no

[Oktober]

119. Ever been shot at or shot an armed person? Stress shoot?

Basic marksmanship?

Boy scouts?

Anything?

[branford]

116. That is not necessarily true.

Could you kindly provide your firearms and tactics expertise, or at least a scholarly article from such an expert, to support your assertion?

For instance, in a shooting that often occurs in mere seconds under extreme stress, both police officers and regular citizens often unload their entire magazine at the threat. This can easily mean shooting over 15+ shots in less than 3 or 4 seconds. This sometimes is recommenced, hardly surprising, and certainly not unlawful if actually presented with a serious threat. Moreover, an individual need not be armed to be a serious threat, and if Wilson's testimony is even remotely accurate, a 6'4" man weighing about 300 pounds, no less reaching for the officer's gun, is most decidedly such a threat. Additionally, some people can remain a threat even after being shot multiple times.

[UglyGreed]

48. +1000 N/T

[daleanime]

4. Why does he have any choice in the matter?

He should be in front of a judge.

[daleanime]

57. LOL?

Nothing about this strikes me as funny.

[Oktober]

64. Aside from a complete lack of understanding of the legal terms...

Does that mean you suspect or anticipate violence from the crowd if they don't approve of the results?

[mindwalker_i]

5. Will he sue for a big heafty amount for

all the personal anguish he went through?

[Travis_0004]

8. he is probably getting a couple hundred grand to resign and waive righs to a lawsuit.

[freshwest]

6. Good to hear this. The chief's saying he'd be back at work was idiotic. He needs to move away, too,

if he's not tried for this. Hope he won't be hired by 'Lets's incite a riot' Faux Newz.

[RKP5637]

15. The police chief was the root cause of the escalation. He's a rank amateur and unfit for duty! n/t

[freshwest]

38. He's a troublemaker of the worst kind! Will he be fired?

[RKP5637]

47. I doubt it. There seems to be a lot of sh** going on in that area that extends far beyond just the

police chief, not unlike many places IMO. Many in America seem to really like bullies, sociopaths, cheats and incompetents. It's part of the road to full Idiocracy IMO.

[lpbk2713]

7. He'll go into the Witless Protection Program.

[easychoice]

9. He'll get a huge pile of cash and shuffle off

to another P.D. only to kill again.

Or they will throw his ass in the general population at Leavenworth,lol...We can hope...

[helpmetohelpyou]

30. The pile of cash is going to come from a movie deal

[Sweet Freedom]

68. I think the pile of cash already exists

IIRC there's a fund for him that's raised $500k.

[brush]

10. So this is how they avoid indicting him

The scum is going ot get away with murder and probably collect his pension as well.

Those racist f_ ckers couldn't just do the right and just thing by putting Wilson on trial.

[morningfog]

49. This has nothing to do with the grand jury proceedings.

[jeff47]

70. It has everything to do with the grand jury proceedings.

Resigning is a crumb thrown to the masses to try and alleviate some of the anger over the non-indictment. They want to have it all lined up so that the prosecutor can say "Oops! Didn't get an indictment, but at least he isn't a cop anymore!"

Yes, the results of the grand jury have not been announced. That doesn't mean they are not done. Nor does it mean the government does not know what those results are.

[morningfog]

84. Are you suggesting the grand jury has concluded?

Do you have a link?

Because that is the only way that your theory would have any merit.

[jeff47]

85. Reading comprehension is a good thing.

I'm saying the grand jury has made its decision, but has not officially concluded, and thus that decision has not been announced. But the government is aware of what that decision is.

[morningfog]

86. You are suggesting the grand jurors have made a decision.

That they have either returned a "True bill" or "No bill" but that the decision has not been disclosed. Meaning, the grand jurors role in this has concluded.

Link to any support in that?

[jeff47]

88. What part of "not announced" are you unable to comprehend?

You are suggesting the grand jurors have made a decision. That they have either returned a "True bill" or "No bill"

No, I'm saying the prosecutor can count.

No official action has been taken, but the prosecutor is aware of how many will vote to indict and how many will not.

Link to any support in that?

What part of "not announced" are you unable to comprehend?

[morningfog]

90. You don't have to be such a dick.

In other words, you are pulling shit out of your ass and being rude as hell about it too.



Note for jurors: Do what you feel you must, but read in context.

[jeff47]

91. Apparently I do, since you keep asking for official announcements when I explicitly say none exist.

In other words, you are pulling shit out of your ass

Feel free to explain the actions of the government without them knowing what's coming.

There's no reason to alert the national guard if an indictment is coming. There's no reason to publicize the resignation negotiations if an indictment is coming - heck, there's no reason to negotiate at all of an indictment is coming.

and being rude as hell about it too.

You kept asking for links to official releases when I explicitly said there were none. Being a dick is apparently necessary to get you to read what I typed.

[morningfog]

100. Here ya go:

The grand jury weighing whether to charge a white police officer who shot dead an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, was still in session on Friday, the St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney's Office said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-ferguson-grand-jury-michael-brown-20141121-story.html

You have provided nothing suggesting that a decision has been reached, that is or would be sat on or anything other than your general unpleasant demeanor, which was unfounded.

Pulling shit out of your smug ass.

[jeff47]

104. Hey look! Your link says exactly what I said!

Good thing you provided it to refute.....nothing at all.

You have provided nothing suggesting that a decision has been reached

Except for the national guard being called out, the police alerts, negotiating for a resignation, the closing of the schools.......

You did manage to forget to explain why the government's doing all that if they did not know he would not be indicted.

than your general unpleasant demeanor, which was unfounded.

Apparently I need to be more unpleasant. It seems to be the only way you'll read posts.

[morningfog]

108. You are delusional.

The link said the grand jury is still in session. Apparently you need the help with reading comprehension. But, as it is, you are a total ass and are going on ignore. So long!

[morningfog]

117. And now:

http://m.wsj.com/articles/ferguson-grand-jury-to-reconvene-next-week-1416693827?mobile=y

The grand jury deciding whether to indict a police officer in the shooting death of teenager Michael Brown will reconvene Monday, according to a county official.

The 12 jurors haven’t come to a decision in the case of Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson and will meet again next week, according to a St. Louis County official. Though no decision will come this weekend, police still worked to erect barricades in nearby towns, and shopkeepers continued to board up windows on Saturday, following a third night of arrests Friday.


I accept your apology or being so rude and wrong as well. Of course you are used to it by now.

[brush]

96. it's pretty obvious that a deal has been reached . . .

that if Wilson resigns there won't be an indictment.

A report came out yesterday on Daily Kos on the lie that the police have been telling since day one on the distance from which Wilson unloaded his gun into Brown. They've been saying all along that it was only 35 feet from Wilson's cop SUV but someone finally measured it with a tape measure and the actual distance was about 148 feet . . . 50 fucking yards.

What a crock of lies it is that the unarmed Brown was an imminent threat to the armed Wilson's life at more than 50 yards away — half a football field.

Brown ran 50 yards from the SUV before turning around and raising his hands after being shot at — 50 FUCKING YARDS.

They know this will come out in a trial, thus the resignation deal.

The police department, the DA and all the criminal justice establishment in Ferguson, the county and the state have invested so much in getting behind Wilson (evidenced by the fact that there is still no incident report) and will do anything to save face, and the murdering cop from going to trial and having all their lies and his be exposed.

And where is the press on this? How come with all the media there no one thought to actual measure the crime scene?

IMO the fix is obviously in.

[Logical]

11. I'm sure with a full pension. And some other idiotic department will hire him. Nt

[LawDeeDah]

13. Is that all?

wtf

[RKP5637]

16. He can go buddy up with George Zimmerman, birds of a feather. n/t

[global1]

18. He Could Become Zimmerman's Bodyguard.....nt

[bobGandolf]

26. Makes sense!

He would have a target on his back had he stayed.

[helpmetohelpyou]

28. Yeah he had to leave

Book deal and movie now

[Warpy]

37. Maybe not. Republicans love him

but they don't make most of the decisions at film companies or reputable book publishers.

Maybe he can put it out with Regenery.

[helpmetohelpyou]

40. I can see a movie of the week

This is huge with the justice dept involved , National Guard called in



Protests all over the country. It has all the makings of a movie of the week.

[avebury]

50. I could see an episode of Law & Order if the show was still on. nt

[Rex]

39. He has to resign to go to work for Foxnews.

No doubt they have a million dollar contract waiting for him. He can sit next to national traitor Oliver North.

[AngryOldDem]

42. What choice does he have, regardless of how the grand jury comes back?

Never fear, he'll land something else in no time.

[HereSince1628]

44. Coming soon to a campus security force near you?

What proportion of failed cops turn into this?????

[RedCappedBandit]

45. Haha, who cares? Not nearly enough.

[Cha]

51. So, he's not going to prison for the cold blooded killing of Michael Brown.. instead he's

resigning because he needed a slap on the wrist?! What?!

[RKP5637]

54. Given the insane way things work in the US anymore, he will probably also sue for emotional

distress and receive a huge bundle of cash. ... then also movie/book rights and also outpouring by people/groups sending him $$$$$ 'cause he's their type of man.

[ellie]

59. Sayonara asshole

[Robbins]

60. He should have been fired

That way they could have at least pretended like there was consequenes and a little justice.

[gordianot]

61. This does seal his fifth amendment rights especially if the department gets sued.

Someone who has not talked can shut up forever. It will be very interesting to hear his otiginal story as an employee of the Ferguson PD and how it has changed.. Before this is over the city of Ferguson may long for the days of protests which have to be costing a fortune in overtime. Like the Ancient Mariner soon to retire Cihief Jackson will don the sign "I am Darren Wilson"which should haunt him to the grave. As for as Darren Wilson getting another job in law enforcement he is a huge liability who wants that even Fox News avoided Zimmerman with any employment.

No matter what the secret grand jury says this is not going away. There is serious generational damage.

[Blue_Tires]

62. So he makes a clean getaway after being in hiding for all this time...

[d_b]

63. I hope they find you, Darren

sleep with one eye open for the rest of your life, bud

[Travelman]

71. Good, old-fashioned mob "justice."

That's the way to do it!

[d_b]

74. one is all it takes

as Darren knows

[Travelman]

76. Oh. OK. Good, old-fasioned vigilante "justice."

That's the way to do it!

[d_b]

81. lol

feel free to cry over that piece of shit if it happens

[GGJohn]

110. Sick.

Vigilante justice in never justified and your advocating for it is sick.

[d_b]

112. in my defense

i only advocate it for pigs

[GGJohn]

113. It doesn't matter who it is,

vigilante justice isn't justice period.

[LittleBlue]

92. They said the same thing about Zimmerman

Truth is, it is unlikely anyone will throw away their lives to avenge Brown. Interest will wane and people will be fixated by other cases of police brutality.

[d_b]

93. Oh I know

I can still be hopeful though.

[malaise]

69. You don't have to resign if you didn't do something wrong

Indict the fugging murderer!

[HereSince1628]

72. Could be he's afraid for his life.

Much writing has been given to the dangers represented by protestors.

I find it hard to imagine he doesn't see that danger as aimed at him.

[malaise]

75. If that were true he would have resigned ages ago

No sympathy from me - fugg him.

[HereSince1628]

77. I'm not suggesting sympathy, I'm just suggesting alt. motivation.

It's pretty clear from his gun use that he's a guy who sees danger even where it isn't.

[malaise]

79. I know you're not suggesting sympathy and yes

he's one of the racist and paranoid.

[Travelman]

73. People really ought to read the actual article

CNN's own headline is misleading, which is apparently why they have amended it.

Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- As a grand jury gets closer to announcing its decision, Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, who fatally shot Michael Brown, is in the final stages of negotiations with city officials to resign, sources close to the talks said.

The grand jury hearing evidence is preparing to meet Friday for what might be its final session. A decision on whether to charge Wilson in the death of the unarmed teen could come the same day, law enforcement officials have said.

Wilson maintains he has done nothing wrong, and the resignation talks have hinged on whether a grand jury returns an indictment against him in Brown's death, the sources said.

While Wilson has told associates he would resign to help ease pressure and protect his fellow officers, he's expressed concern about resigning while the grand jury was hearing evidence for fear it would appear he was admitting fault.

~ snip ~

The talks could still collapse, the sources close to the talks said.

Wilson doesn't know what the grand jury will do and if they return charges he could change his mind.

Wilson's resignation is not any sort of done deal. He would be stupid to resign IF the grand jury returns a true bill, because doing so would mean giving up his union legal representation. That is also why he has not been fired. The police union is there to protect their union members when they get into trouble. One would think that should be considered a good thing.

[Runningdawg]

82. I don't have any idea how

how the police union works. However, I did see someone from the FPD say that if DW was charged he would be fired. Wouldn't that mean he would loose his pension? But if he resigns BEFORE he can be charged, he would receive it? Odd there was no mention of his resignation UNTIL the FPD stated he would be fired if charged. My guess is he will resign one way or the other. Either to save his pension if charged or to get the hell out of dodge before he's shot if he is not charged. This martyr BS about saving his fellow officers and dept. trouble is too little, too late to be sincere.

[Travelman]

83. This whole "pension" thing is just silly

The guy has only been with the Ferguson PD for four years. He's not vested in his pension yet. He's not getting any pension no matter what happens unless he stays on the Ferguson PD long enough to get vested in it.

I really don't get where people are coming up with this whole silly pension canard in the first place. It has nothing to do with any of this.

[Runningdawg]

94. I didn't know

the pension had been brought up before. I don't have a tv or a phone and I am new here, trying to find my way around. Sorry to bother you.

[Travelman]

97. Sorry. It's not you in particular.

It's just all over this thread and the LBN thread about this pension business, and it's just not a factor here.

I didn't mean to come off as biting your head off about it. Sorry about that.

[GGJohn]

111. Depends how long he's been a police officer,

how long was he with the Jennings PD before it was disbanded?
That time would count towards his being vested.

[Travelman]

114. Total of six years

But if I'm reading this correctly, and assuming that this is the right reference, someone has to have "continuous creditable service." I would think that changing between Jennings and Ferguson would mean that he doesn't have five years "continuous."

I could be wrong, though. Pensions are not my forte.

[GGJohn]

115. I'm not too sure about that either,

I'll ask my brother tonight, he's a corrections officer and is under the PERS also.

[Arkana]

78. Oh good. Now he can be a violent racist private citizen

instead of a violent racist cop.

[logosoco]

87. Too little, too late.

This man should not have had that job in the first place.

If there is no trial there is no justice.

I feel bad for any community where this guy is on the force. I don't even think he should be working with people AT ALL, much less in a position of power.

[JEB]

98. Michael Brown did not resign from life.

It was taken from him without benefit of jury or law or due process. Michael Brown is the victim, not the cop that pulled the trigger so many times.

[dilby]

99. Hmmm, wonder if Anonymous did find some KKK connections.

Sucks because it was found to late and wont be able to be submitted before the Grand Jury to be included in their deliberations.

[louis-t]

101. He will disappear. He can't really walk the streets.

He can't possibly serve the public, if he ever really did. I didn't really expect him to just go back to work as if nothing had happened. Maybe he can become a pro wrestler. Maybe he'll go work for a collection agency where he can scream and threaten people on the phone all day.

[Lee-Lee]

103. If no-billed by the GJ he will probably move to a part of MO with few minorities

And may work in LE there.

[Calista241]

121. He could move anywhere. Alaska, Georgia, New Hampshire

And he'll be a qualified police officer with a clean record. I believe he even has a commendation (from before this incident).

There'll be no obvious reason to turn him down for a job.

[Lee-Lee]

122. Not exactly

Most states don't recognize another states certification.

Had a retiree from NYPD who wanted to work part time with my agency- despite just being a few months off the job and fully certified in NY still NC required him to start over just like a brand new recruit.

He elected to spend his time as a volunteer firefighter instead...

[jwirr]

105. That is a beginning.