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babylonsister

(172,763 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:46 AM Nov 2014

Maybe They Really Don't Understand Us

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2014/11/20/234359/99

Maybe They Really Don't Understand Us

by BooMan
Thu Nov 20th, 2014 at 11:43:59 PM EST


I often wonder how much of what Republicans say is purely for what they perceive to be their political advantage and how much of it just that they genuinely cannot understand what motivates us. The idea that everyone pushing for immigration reform is just trying to piss off the right is a very strange and grossly incorrect idea. People are trying to address a major source of correctable human suffering.

Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), a Boehner ally, accused Obama of intentionally trying to provoke a fight with the new Republican Congress.

"I'm mystified by the political calculation," he said. "There's a new Congress coming in. Why would you do this on the eve of Thanksgiving going into the holiday unless you just want to create a political crisis?"


In a fact-based universe, everyone knows that the president wanted to make this announcement prior to the election and that the timing was delayed at the behest of worried Democrats. It wasn't done tonight because the president wants to create a political crisis. It wasn't to make himself relevant again. It wasn't to divide the right or to distract them from their agenda. It wasn't to provoke them into a frothy racist rage and another government shutdown.

It was because he could not put off doing what is right any longer.

That's it.

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Maybe They Really Don't Understand Us (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2014 OP
When you believe Government is an instrument of failure as our republican friends do el_bryanto Nov 2014 #1
LOL! I was just kidding when I wrote this post a little while ago.. Cha Nov 2014 #2
that is just a secondary gift!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #3
Really.. just a Cha Nov 2014 #4
Yeah but a fun perk! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #5
I am wondering if do-nothing have become normal, so many important issues arise Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #6
It's really not that uncommon. jeff47 Nov 2014 #7
Very good point, jeff47. brer cat Nov 2014 #8
It's projection. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #9

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. When you believe Government is an instrument of failure as our republican friends do
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:48 AM
Nov 2014

every move made by the government must be coolly cynical. Since we believe the Government has the potential to do great things as well as bad things, our perspective is a bit different.

Bryant

Cha

(319,209 posts)
2. LOL! I was just kidding when I wrote this post a little while ago..
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:53 AM
Nov 2014
"And, the President is doing this just to drive repubs even further into Insanity!"

I mean I didn't know they were actually accusing Obama of doing this!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5847820

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. I am wondering if do-nothing have become normal, so many important issues arise
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:03 AM
Nov 2014

And immigration has been an issue which wasn't fixed in the '80s because the fix in 86 did nit result in enforcement so it is still the same problem.

The House could bring up repealing Obamacare 50 times but did not have time for bringing the Senate immigration bill up for a vote once.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. It's really not that uncommon.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:55 AM
Nov 2014

There's lots of people from every political persuasion who are only able to look at someone else's actions through their own political views. For example, on DU you get some Clinton supporters saying "...but she would win!" over and over again as if that's the only important thing. Or the recent "damn lazy kids not voting" threads.

Being able to look at politics from someone else's view requires listening to the other person. That a lot more work than assuming they're acting within your point of view. As an added bonus, keeping it within your point of view lets you assume those others are only motivated by evil or stupidity.

brer cat

(27,610 posts)
8. Very good point, jeff47.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 11:55 AM
Nov 2014

Listening is a skill that many have lost, or don't develop. It is a requirement to understanding others.

Qutzupalotl

(15,827 posts)
9. It's projection.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:43 PM
Nov 2014

Because so much of their motivation is about pissing US off. (See: rolling coal, stretch Hummers, purple heart band-aids, et al)

They literally cannot fathom how anyone could help his neighbor without some monetary benefit. Doing the right thing is a sign of weakness to Randites.

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