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A HERETIC I AM

(24,875 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:29 PM Nov 2014

Very cool Virtual Tour of the cockpit of a B-36J "Peacemaker"

The B-36 was a post WWII, early cold war long range bomber that had 6 propeller engines and 4 jet engines.

http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/062/B-36J%20Engineer.html


Enough switches and gauges for ya?

This is a B-36;

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Very cool Virtual Tour of the cockpit of a B-36J "Peacemaker" (Original Post) A HERETIC I AM Nov 2014 OP
Go get a copy of the movie "Strategic Air Command" if you upaloopa Nov 2014 #1
Great movie w/ Jimmy Stewart... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #4
"One a day in Tampa Bay" was the rep for B-47s Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #29
I remember radios with the Conelrad logo on the dial. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #6
How I long for the Cold War... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #9
My high school had one of these. ChazII Nov 2014 #37
Watched it the other day! n/t A HERETIC I AM Nov 2014 #10
Great flick badtoworse Nov 2014 #33
Six turning and four burning! Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #2
Six turning and four burning....which was frequently more like: EX500rider Nov 2014 #22
I recognize the dangers of jingoism...but I find aircraft such as this fascinating HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #3
Yeah, "Peacemaker" was a bit OTT, however... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #5
And when you consider how Soviet aircraft went forward with turboprops HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #7
Have we reached the apex in bomber design when there have been... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #8
They got there with the XB-70 A HERETIC I AM Nov 2014 #11
I totally agree. It was everything wrapped into one... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #15
I was always partial to the B1-B Lancer in it's beauty. GGJohn Nov 2014 #20
I was visting my Bro who was stationed at Ellsworth AFB in the day Strelnikov_ Nov 2014 #24
The sheer power of it's engines were awesome. GGJohn Nov 2014 #28
I always like the B58 Hustler awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #26
Looks similar to the Convair F-106 Delta Dart. GGJohn Nov 2014 #30
Definitely built by the same company. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #31
I've always been fastinated by the Convair B-58 Hustler FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #35
I think the B1 movable sweep wing and computer control of the b2 certainly are advancements HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #13
B-1's and B-2's are being phased out while B-52's are being upgraded... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #17
Excellent point Strelnikov_ Nov 2014 #23
It was never used in anger it is said upaloopa Nov 2014 #16
The flight engineers got most of the bells, buttons, and whistles Brother Buzz Nov 2014 #12
Wheres the CRM 114 Discriminator located in that thing? VScott Nov 2014 #14
On the Belvin Panel. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2014 #18
I should have scrolled all the way down... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #27
I've been in there. Xithras Nov 2014 #19
Graveyard of the B-36 ThoughtCriminal Nov 2014 #21
Where is the CRM114 Discriminator? awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #25
they made the earth shake wain Nov 2014 #32
Selfridge Air Force Base. longship Nov 2014 #36
I would love to have those panels for my office FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #34

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Go get a copy of the movie "Strategic Air Command" if you
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:37 PM
Nov 2014

like B-36's.
I was in grade school when they flew those.
We were told to duck and cover in the event of a nuclear attack. The reason for those planes was to bomb Russia if they launched an attack on us. They would fly over the North Pole while our interceptors tried to shoot down the Russian bombers.
We were kept scared shitless so we would spend money on those planes. We had air raid drills and radio allert tests on and off.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
29. "One a day in Tampa Bay" was the rep for B-47s
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:09 PM
Nov 2014

as they were known to stall coming out of MacDill AFB. My cousin saw the chutes from crew ejections in one instance. I believe the bomber went to Rocket Assisted Take-Off (RATO) in some configurations afterwards.

ChazII

(6,448 posts)
37. My high school had one of these.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 11:16 PM
Nov 2014

The shelter wasn't used except for storage. In 2004 the school was demolished and the shelter was deemed unsafe for tours prior to the demolition.

EX500rider

(12,556 posts)
22. Six turning and four burning....which was frequently more like:
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:35 PM
Nov 2014

Two turning, two burning, two smoking, two joking, and two unaccounted for...

The 336 spark plugs made tune-ups sort of a chore...lol

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. I recognize the dangers of jingoism...but I find aircraft such as this fascinating
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:40 PM
Nov 2014

The push of technology vs the pragmatism of past experience...

Here we have swept back wings...better for higher speeds...and a very B-17ish tail assembly

Propellers along with soon to be dominant turbojet engines.

Delivery of hydrogen bombs notwithstanding that is just a very interesting aircraft

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
5. Yeah, "Peacemaker" was a bit OTT, however...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:43 PM
Nov 2014

...this aircraft has always fascinated me. Convair actually gave it complete jet power and swept the wings back much further with the YB-60 (same fuselage but all jet):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_YB-60

Now THAT was a BUFF (Big Ugly Fat Fucker)!

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. And when you consider how Soviet aircraft went forward with turboprops
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:46 PM
Nov 2014

you see in this plane the coming fork in the road for American aircraft engineering

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
8. Have we reached the apex in bomber design when there have been...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

...little-to-no improvements since 1955 (with the B-52 and the Tu-95)?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,875 posts)
11. They got there with the XB-70
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:56 PM
Nov 2014


In my opinion, one of the, if not the most beautiful aircraft ever to take to the skies.

Strelnikov_

(8,158 posts)
24. I was visting my Bro who was stationed at Ellsworth AFB in the day
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:42 PM
Nov 2014

Saw a B-1 take off. Holy shit, the noise, the power.

Also, the damage from where one crashed on take off (landing?) was still evident.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
28. The sheer power of it's engines were awesome.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:05 PM
Nov 2014

Another aircraft I found fascinating was the FB-111 Aardvark.



The Vietnamese used to call it Whispering Death due to that they wouldn't hear it until it was right on top of them.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
35. I've always been fastinated by the Convair B-58 Hustler
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:44 PM
Nov 2014
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First operational supersonic bomber.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. I think the B1 movable sweep wing and computer control of the b2 certainly are advancements
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:58 PM
Nov 2014

but I would agree that the 1950s was a time of remarkable innovation and experimentation with airframe configuration

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
17. B-1's and B-2's are being phased out while B-52's are being upgraded...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:02 PM
Nov 2014

...I agree that both the B-1 and B-2's are remarkable aircraft, but the B-52 (at 60+ years old) is still very viable for its mission.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
16. It was never used in anger it is said
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:00 PM
Nov 2014

There also was a RB36 for loaded with photo flash bombs.

Brother Buzz

(39,870 posts)
12. The flight engineers got most of the bells, buttons, and whistles
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:57 PM
Nov 2014

They're nervous Nellies without them.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
19. I've been in there.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:06 PM
Nov 2014

They have a B-36H at Castle Air Museum (though without most of the gauges), and twice a year they have open cockpit days when the public is allowed to climb in and around their collection. Back in the mid 90's they used to let people go into the cockpit and climb into the two rear seats, and the other seats in the deck below. As the crowds grew over the years, they first stopped letting people get all the way into the seats, and limited them to just poking their heads up into the cockpit to look around. The last two times I've visited on open cockpit day, they didn't have it open at all. You could only stick your head up into the bomb bay. One of the docents told me that it was just too tight to get that many people through. They could do it when they had a few hundred people show up, but nowadays they get thousands.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,721 posts)
21. Graveyard of the B-36
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:32 PM
Nov 2014


http://thoughtcrimewave.blogspot.com/2008/06/graveyard-of-aluminum-overcast.html

At the Historic Aerials website, you can find images of the aircraft "boneyard" at Davis-Monthan AFB in 1958. By my count, there are 160 B-36 aircraft that are awaiting scrapping or are in the process of being cut up. There are 24 more south of this image link below, and two more on the north side of the base.


wain

(822 posts)
32. they made the earth shake
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:21 PM
Nov 2014

I remember as a little boy in Detroit standing in the back yard a seeing the white contrails of a squadron of B-36s way up in the sky and how the very ground shook and rumbled from the engines. The moments one remembers from so many decades past.

longship

(40,416 posts)
36. Selfridge Air Force Base.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:55 PM
Nov 2014

I remember many big prop planes flying over Detroit in my youth, including the "Boxcars". But also the big bombers.

Grew up in the city. In autumn, 1962, we were scared shitless in October, when Cuba missile crisis happened. I was attending Cadillac junior high school and had an afternoon Detroit News route, so I was allowed to ride a bicycle to school. (That and the fact that it was a mile and a half from home to school.) There were two times when the papers were late. The first was that two weeks in October, 1962. There were many big airplanes overhead during those weeks. The second time was on November 22, 1963. When the Detroit News was finally delivered on that tragic day, the newsboys were universally horrified by the headline.

Here it is, the editor should have been fired on the spot:

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
34. I would love to have those panels for my office
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:40 PM
Nov 2014

Amazingly cool aircraft sitting on the border between propeller and jet power.

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